Trump Has Sent a Boy to Do a Woman's Job

[MineralMan]

Jared Kushner reportedly had no luck talking to the Palestinians. No surprise there. He's not all that bright when it comes to disputes in the Middle East. No experience, and all that.

Trump would have done better to study Hillary Clinton's efforts during her time as Secretary of State. Nepotism is no substitute for experience and knowledge. Being the President's son-in-law is a qualification for nothing whatsoever.

[dalton99a]

1. Please don't give him ideas. He'll send Barron

[MineralMan]

2. That would probably be just as effective as sending Jared.

[Eyeball_Kid]

3. Trumpy has no pets (dogs, cats, snakes, etc), so he can't send them.

He may as well have rented a dog and sent it to negotiate. It would have been just as effective as sending Jared.

[treestar]

18. LOL

Rented a dog - so true

[rickford66]

22. Keith Obermann did a segment about Trump never having a pet.

Well worth looking up.

[lastlib]

23. Oh, I suspect he has a Penthouse Pet around somewhere..........

(anyway, no self-respecting snake would have HIM, let alone a dog or cat.)

[smirkymonkey]

4. Or, god forbid, Ivanka.

[dalton99a]

15. "Hello, President Abbas. Can I call you Mahmoud? Has your wife seen my new line of handbags?"

The one I designed MYSELF?

And did Jared talk to you all about our visa purchase program?

[smirkymonkey]

27. LOL!

[keithbvadu2]

30. "visa purchase program" - Good one!

Jared's primary foreign relations interest.

[Takket]

6. Barron is in school so he likely has much more recent knowledge of ME issues than Kushner....

ironically

[HipChick]

5. Maybe he knew he would fail...now he can wash his hands of any effort, and just blame Jared

[MineralMan]

9. Effort? Trump makes no real effort to do anything.

He doesn't like working. It's a concept that is foreign to him, and he hates foreign things.

[PJMcK]

7. Trump said it would be easy

During his campaign, Trump said that finding a peaceful solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict would be easy to accomplish. Of course, he ignored all of the work by the really smart people who have worked on this intractable problem for decades. Then, Trump sent his amateur.

Of course Kusher failed. Now, Trump & Company will withdraw from any future attempts to resolve this problem because, "who knew that the Middle East was such a difficult problem?"

Chalk this up to yet another Trump promise that will go unfulfilled.

[MineralMan]

10. Trump thinks everything is easy.

You just make a deal that is favorable to yourself and that's it. That's how he does things. Plus, you get other people to pay for what you want. That's the second part of Trump's deals.

Frankly, it never worked all that well in his business ventures, and words even less well in the business of nations.

[Scarsdale]

16. Jared is a fraud

who lied on his security clearance interview. He has no authority to be doing any of this. Inexperienced, not too bright Jared should go back to screwing people over in real estate. I want to see the entire clan in shackles. Ivanka, (Olive Oyl with large breast implants) should sue her plastic surgeon, since he did not fix that ugly tRump mouth. Beavis and Butthead might as well go to prison once daddy is indicted, since they are useless without him.

[meow2u3]

8. Putin and Trump VOTERS sent a boy to do a woman's job

Putin knew Trump was a bratty little boy in a man's body and conned repuke voters into thinking tRump would save the world--and they bought it!

[MineralMan]

11. Both Putin and Trump like having toadies around them.

Trump is Putin's toady, so Putin has won. Trump's reward is that he gets to appoint his own toadies.

[DK504]

12. Since she should be the president

and Wittle Jared with his like boy voice will never heard by men that have been at war for 70 years. Dump isn't capable of learning anything, he has had everyone else do everything for him. He probably can't even wipe his own ass.

[MineralMan]

13. As for your last point, I have tried not to think about Trump's ass.

I suspect, though, that he has great difficulty with doing what you describe. Perhaps they have installed a bidet in the Presidential Bathroom at the White House.

Beyond that, my mind shrinks away from thinking about the dingleberries on the Presidential Arse.

[rzemanfl]

14. This post and the one above have spoiled my appetite for the forseeable future. n/t

[Bohunk68]

49. Those little fingers.

[n2doc]

17. Apparently his idea was to march in with Netanyahu's demands

Didn't work out so well

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/jared-kushner-meeting-palestinian-leader-not-article-1.3275129

[Honeycombe8]

19. Not to mention no credibility as to impartiality & really wanting a truce.

First, he's Jewish. While we don't discriminate, that's not an ideal ethnicity/religion to be a mediator between a Jewish state and an arch enemy of a Jewish state.

Second, as you say, he has no experience whatsoever.

Third, he's corrupt, and everyone knows it.

Fourth, the family lies every time it speaks, so why would the Palestinians believe anything he says? Or that they'd trust the country would abide by his promises?

I suspect this was just a show so Trump could say "We tried, but they were unreasonable."

[Texin]

20. 'Res Shitgibbon wasn't going to broker peace 'cause his bro Bibi N isn't for it

[gademocrat7]

21. Another epic fail.

[leftstreet]

24. Well, an Adult's Job anyway

The US has had some very qualified male SOSs

[karynnj]

25. Drop the sexism - I think George Marshall and John Kerry were the 2 best Secretary of States in

the last 70 years - and they were both male. Like Clinton, both had long careers of exemplary public service before being that position. The problem has nothing to do with gender, it has to do with experience. I would hope you would have been just as unhappy if he made Ivanka the envoy.

It diminishes Clinton to suggest that she was better just because she was a woman. Clinton was good, not because she was a woman, but because she had some foreign policy experience and was very intelligent.

As Tom Friedman (NYT) said of Kushner's credentials on Israel/Palestine in a Davos interview with John Kerry in January, "He went to (Jewish) summer camp".

Netanyahu has welcomed the Trump team - Kushner, a slum lord married to Ivanka, whose family funded settlements that Israel itself deemed illegal, David Friedman - a Trump lawyer who is on record supporting the settlements, and Greenblatt, Trump's bankruptcy lawyer. Everyone on that team is a right wing Jew. In the past, people have questioned even Carter, Mitchell and Kerry as being biased toward Israel, even as all three were trashed by right wing Jews -- and we KNOW the House and Senate rarely disagree with AIPAC. This team is actually to the right of Netanyahu.

It is very hard to see how this could lead to any grand deal.

[grantcart]

28. I think the OP was simply having fun with the traditional phrase

Sent a boy to do a man's job.

The key word here is 'boy'. I am sure that the rib was meant to put a humorous twist on an old phrase and wasn't meant to be gender exclusive.

[MineralMan]

29. As I told you before, it's a play on words.

As for competent women who have been Secretary of State, I give you Madeline Albright and Hillary Cinton. I would mention Condoleeza Rice, but she was appointed by a Republican.

But, my post was a play on "Send a boy to do a man's work." Had I used that, instead of what I did say, then I could be accused of sexism for failing to recognize women who have served in our highest diplomatic office. So, I played a little game with an old saying.

In the second place, Jared Kushner is not a Secretary of State. A person in that position is generally who deals with negotiations at that level. Jared Kushner is just the President's son-in-law, and is completely unqualified for the job of negotiating peace between Israel and Palestine. He has no training or experience that would suit him for it.

My post is devoid of sexism. It is a commentary on the lack of qualifications of Jared Kushner. Since we have had women who have served well as Secretaries of State, my switching genders in playing with an old saying is as far removed from sexism as I can possibly go.

So, again, I reject your criticism as misplaced.

[karynnj]

32. Just as you stand by what you said, I stand by what I said - you should have contrasted "child and

adult - not boy and woman, which throws in gender. Just as you say that switching it to boy and man, disparages women, who are not in the comparison - yours implies that the job NEEDS a woman. This disparages every man who held this job, relative to the women who did.

Citing that HRC, Clinton and Albright were competent does not help - no one said they weren't. That was JUST your strawman against using boy, man - where nothing negative or positive would have been said against women. Your substitute actually CALLS it a woman's job.

As to the fact that he is not SoS - I never said he was - it was YOU who brought that in by referring to SoS and HRC.

[MineralMan]

33. OK, well...

[Hekate]

35. As one author says, "It was a pune, or play on words"...

That author is, btw, using a deliberate misspelling to make a point about his character, and about the person his character is writing to.

Authors do that kind of thing. Readers are expected to be quick enough to keep up. Especially after someone explains it to them.

[karynnj]

37. The op ignores the irony in the OP

Why - The problem with the standard boy/man was said to be that it meant that the job was defined as a "man's job". The "correction" to boy/woman, has a parallel problem in that it defines the job as a "woman's job".

If it is wrong to call it a man's job - ignoring HRC, Albright and Rice, doesn't calling it a woman's job, ignore that many men very admirably did it in a credible way?

Child/adult avoids that. As does, not getting clever and calling a 30 something a child - and speaking of relevant experience or good character, which Jared lacks.

[MineralMan]

39. The "child/adult" pairing also avoids a nice opportunity

to exercise a bit of literary license. I could also have used a "apprentice/journeyman" or "servant/master" pair. There are many things I could have written, but I chose the one I did because it seemed most appropriate for the situation and turned out to be attractive to readers. Your fine distinctions are all well and good, but are rather beside the point I was making.

Perhaps you can use the phrasing you prefer in your next original post here. I promise not to over-analyze it.

[karynnj]

43. Sensitive much? You SAID man's job was sensitive

Not to mention, it was George Mitchell, not HRC, who was the envoy on Israel/Palestine In Obama's first term.

[MineralMan]

45. Oh, my...I'm done with this, entirely.

[lunamagica]

47. Good. It is not your problem that they don't get it. I thought it was brilliant!

[3catwoman3]

48. I thought it was very well said, too.

That is typically the case with Mineral Man's posts.

[MineralMan]

38. Perhaps it was a "puney" one, though.

[Hekate]

41. Heh. Back atcha

It amused me. I find humorless people tiring. I'd say they are their own worst punishment -- but they'd never get it.

[MineralMan]

44. Oh, well...

Comes with the territory, I suppose.

[Loge23]

26. I'm not so sure that he's bright at all

This kid has been sold to us by the conman-in-chief as "brilliant".
But what has he done? He inherited wealth, he's a slumlord, and he's hooked up with the conman as surrogate husband to the daughter.
The big question in my mind is why? Why are they there, constantly?
Back a goddamn truck up to the place and clean up this horror story already.

[Gothmog]

31. Jarrod is an idiot who had no chance of accomplishing anything

[Motley13]

34. this is why Jared is such a Middle East expert

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/jared-kushner-says-he-read-up-on-middle-east-during-minutes-waiting-for-ski-lift

[yurbud]

36. when you've been handed everything your whole life, every job looks easy

because you've always had servants to clean up the trail of destruction behind you.

[Kleveland]

40. I don't know, he would look pretty good in drag....

Maybe he has not found himself.

[spanone]

42. trump knows absolutely nothing about the struggles between the Israelis and the Palestinians..

nor has he chosen to educate himself. he is bluffing his way through his presidency.

jared the joke.

[DFW]

46. Trump would have done better to study ANYTHING he's involved in

But if he did THAT, then he wouldn't be Trump, would he?