Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
7 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Ins. Co.'s Offer Policies Across State Lines, More Competition and Lower Premiums (Original Post) louis c Jun 2017 OP
The answer is "single payer" Moostache Jun 2017 #1
We can't get single payer through this Congress, Senate and President louis c Jun 2017 #2
We aren't getting anything through this Congress, not one single thing. Moostache Jun 2017 #3
Far from it PSPS Jun 2017 #4
If you get ripped off you have to sue the insurance company AJT Jun 2017 #5
That GOP mantra is BS. Insurance companies don't really want to sell across state lines. Vinca Jun 2017 #6
Wow, everyone is missing my point louis c Jun 2017 #7

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. The answer is "single payer"
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:15 PM
Jun 2017

Remove the profit motive from health care, period.
It is a RIGHT, not a privilege....

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
2. We can't get single payer through this Congress, Senate and President
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:20 PM
Jun 2017

but a public option may be doable. After all, it fits the Republican narrative and suits our purpose.

And it moves us one step closer to "Medicare for All".

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
3. We aren't getting anything through this Congress, not one single thing.
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:42 PM
Jun 2017

The ACA was SUPPOSED to be the move that got us one step closer to Single Payer...and now? We are about to see millions sentenced to death next week and there is literally nothing that can stop it from our side. The only hope for this country for the next 30 years is in retaking the House and Governor's races in 2018 and the Senate and executive branch in 2020.

Without a valid and successful census and redistricting effort, the Democratic Party is going to be irrelevant for the remainder of most of our lives. Look around at the destruction and wanton cruelty of their legislation and state level actions. With a gerrymandered map, the SCOTUS for a generation plus and the entire government in the hands of those who will only do the bidding of their paymasters, this country will not be worth staying in if the 2018 and 2020 elections are as big a disaster as 2016.

The concept of compromise is not in the GOP lexicon...there can't be any more half-measures and a public option would simply get knee-capped by the right the exact same way they hijacked ACA and started starving it before this current abomination. Getting only as far as ACA and then to see it actually go BACKWARDS so soon is depressing.

PSPS

(13,593 posts)
4. Far from it
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:47 PM
Jun 2017

It's not "more competition and lower premiums," it's "no competition and lower premiums for sham policies." You proposal is just a "race to the bottom," taking locally-elected state insurance regulators out of the picture and leaving people with no reasonable avenue of recourse.

Look at credit card companies who have all gone to Delaware where there are no or lax regulations.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
5. If you get ripped off you have to sue the insurance company
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 04:50 PM
Jun 2017

in the state the company has its headquarters, any state regulations won't apply.......so, many long expensive years in litigation. The company can go out of business or just keep suits in the court system for 20 years. Good luck.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
6. That GOP mantra is BS. Insurance companies don't really want to sell across state lines.
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 05:53 PM
Jun 2017

A few states allow it and they're in the same boat with the others. Insurance companies need to vet the doctors, hospitals and other providers and negotiate with each and every one of them. The GOP dream that this would lower the cost of insurance is pure fantasy. There is one way to solve the problem right now: open up a public option for Obamacare.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
7. Wow, everyone is missing my point
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 06:53 PM
Jun 2017

A government option would work like a Medicare proposal. It would compete with the insurers from a central point and the insurance would be the same in each state, because it is uniform.

Private Insurers would be unable to successfully compete with a subsidized, uniform, non-profit public option.

That would be the beginning of the end of private insurers and would pave the way to a single payer, Medicare for all plan.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Ins. Co.'s Offer Policies...