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Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:31 PM

John Schindler and Claude Taylor on Twitter this morning:







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Reply John Schindler and Claude Taylor on Twitter this morning: (Original post)
Shell_Seas Jun 2017 OP
pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #1
Cosmocat Jun 2017 #20
CrispyQ Jun 2017 #37
rurallib Jun 2017 #27
pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #38
mopinko Jun 2017 #42
LanternWaste Jun 2017 #43
LOL Lib Jun 2017 #46
rurallib Jun 2017 #49
LOL Lib Jun 2017 #50
politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2017 #61
LOL Lib Jun 2017 #68
pnwmom Jun 2017 #52
DarleenMB Jun 2017 #57
Achilleaze Jun 2017 #2
awesomerwb1 Jun 2017 #3
WinkyDink Jun 2017 #5
Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #6
Hortensis Jun 2017 #31
DesertRat Jun 2017 #36
grantcart Jun 2017 #41
politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2017 #63
WinkyDink Jun 2017 #4
Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #7
Borchkins Jun 2017 #8
Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #9
pnwmom Jun 2017 #11
Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #16
snooper2 Jun 2017 #18
L. Coyote Jun 2017 #29
LanternWaste Jun 2017 #45
Kathy M Jun 2017 #69
berni_mccoy Jun 2017 #13
Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #17
Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #15
L. Coyote Jun 2017 #28
Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #44
melman Jun 2017 #54
JenniferJuniper Jun 2017 #10
pnwmom Jun 2017 #12
L. Coyote Jun 2017 #33
YoungDemCA Jun 2017 #14
MissKat Jun 2017 #19
LonePirate Jun 2017 #22
DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #24
flotsam Jun 2017 #25
Kathy M Jun 2017 #72
enid602 Jun 2017 #21
flying-skeleton Jun 2017 #23
L. Coyote Jun 2017 #26
SpankMe Jun 2017 #30
Kleveland Jun 2017 #32
L. Coyote Jun 2017 #34
Freethinker65 Jun 2017 #35
Batship Jun 2017 #39
onenote Jun 2017 #64
Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #70
onenote Jun 2017 #73
L. Coyote Jun 2017 #40
Ligyron Jun 2017 #66
Amaryllis Jun 2017 #47
QED Jun 2017 #48
RestoreAmerica2020 Jun 2017 #51
Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #56
nikibatts Jun 2017 #53
bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #55
Ligyron Jun 2017 #67
OKNancy Jun 2017 #58
Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #59
OKNancy Jun 2017 #60
Shell_Seas Jun 2017 #62
Agschmid Jun 2017 #65
Dem2 Jun 2017 #71

Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:34 PM

1. Oh, wouldn't this be so nice. I am not holding out anything will happen to Trump,

 

or Republicans; but, I sure would like to see them suffer repercussions.

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Response to pirateshipdude (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:36 PM

20. Yeah - two different things

these scumbags being dirty as sin, which is pretty darn obvious at this point, in too many ways to count.

AND ...

Something actually happening to them.

Too many people don't get how close we are to republicans just saying "fuck it" and going COMPLETELY (cause one foot is already) off the norms of american government reservation.

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:29 PM

37. The investigation must take out the rot at the top of the GOP or the USA is toast.

I hope that's what the IC is working toward.

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Response to pirateshipdude (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:21 PM

27. Ford Pardons Nixon

Pence pardons Trump - history doesn't repeat but it rhymes

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Response to rurallib (Reply #27)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:34 PM

38. This is how I see it, also. Eom

 

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Response to rurallib (Reply #27)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:16 PM

42. as long as the pardon is more specific than "unindicted co-conspiritor" i

might be good w it. a true list of his high crimes, and prison sentence for a couple dozen minions and i MIGHT feel like justice was done.

i need a frog march and an orange suit to be truly satisfied that justice is blind, tho.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #27)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:18 PM

43. If Trump doing time is what the feckless base of the GOP wants, that's what will happen.

 

"Pence pardons Trump..."

If, and only if it's politically expedient. If Trump doing time is what the feckless base of the GOP wants, that's what will happen. If Trump doing time assists the GOP in what will have to be a re-branding of their image, that is what will happen.

Additionally, though Nixon commanded little loyalty, Trump commands none.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #27)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:21 PM

46. Pence can't pardon Trump for a state crime.

At least that is my understanding.

The constitutional language governing pardons reads, “The President … shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”

Only a state governor could pardon trump for offenses against said state.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/05/24/could-trump-issue-himself-a-pardon/?utm_term=.4251aaede65f

Hopefully he runs afoul of crimes against ny state and AG Schneiderman puts him behind bars.

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Response to LOL Lib (Reply #46)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 04:55 PM

49. Maybe not, but they most surely will try, I bet

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Response to rurallib (Reply #49)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 05:44 PM

50. You know they would try something!

He will be on twitter crying to his cult members that the "Dems set me up! I didn't know why that guy gave me 50 million for a 5 million property! I though he just liked the Trump logo!"

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Response to LOL Lib (Reply #50)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 11:40 AM

61. Would that logo be that Family Crest that Trump stole from another family and just started using it

on Trump properties and other crap he owns?

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #61)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 12:46 PM

68. That or his gaudy gold "TRUMP" name.

Who the hell does that? Steal a family crest. I shouldn't say this, but I'm going to anyway. Donnie 2 Scoops is the definition of white trash. That might violate the TOS, but no one can argue that it's not true.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 04:46 AM

52. But Nixon wasn't accused of NY State crimes that Ford couldn't pardon.

NY Attorney General Schneiderman is said to be investigating the Trumps, too.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:55 AM

57. Not if he is convicted of a state crime!

Presidential pardons only apply to federal crimes. And Pence is going down too. Why do you think all of them have lawyered up?

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:38 PM

2. republican traitors against the USA should be

brought to justice.

the republican Draft Dodger in Chief, Comrade Casino, merits a full measure of justice, as does his Cabal of Complicit republican Cronies.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:38 PM

3. No offense but......

I am open minded as they come (sometimes hehe) and I follow both on Twitter....but take that with a massive grain of salt.

Re. Schindler. Why would the person (trusted member of trump's inner circle) go around telling people he knows he's going to jail?? He may be guilty as can be, but there is still due process etc etc etc.

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Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:42 PM

5. Jared has lawyers. They advise. He might also think he has friends who can keep confidentialities.

 

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Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:43 PM

6. I wonder if Trump leakers get $$ for leaks... OR...

if they secretly hate Trump and play like they don't?

Regardless, I'm hopeful, but I we've been let down before.

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Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:23 PM

31. We shouldn't be surprised at this push for attention.

I PREDICTED (all hail me!) that we would get spoiled by that period of huge news every day. When it stops, as everyone should have predicted, cynical opportunists push into the void to fill the craving.

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Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:28 PM

36. I couldn't agree more. nt

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Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:05 PM

41. exactly, and IF they were going to spread the rumors

they would do it with Costa or the WSJ group.

Somebody on Twitter posted something we like so let's get distracted.

Also with the pardon power at his fingertips Trump doesn't believe any of them are going to jail.

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Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 11:52 AM

63. Maybe its Mike Flynn and he's just stating the obvious. Maybe he feels used by the Trump admin.

He had been undergoing questioning by Mueller's FBI team according to news reports. If it's him, I'm sure he must have something juicy on Trump. Why else would he have risked everything for that clown?

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:41 PM

4. First Tweet can mean only Jared Kushner. And he is familiar with the incarceration thingie.

 

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:43 PM

7. That's what I thought, too.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:54 PM

8. I'm not holding my breath,

But I hope it's true.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:55 PM

9. I'm sorry, but I don't believe this for a second.

I have no idea who John Schindler is, other than a vague reference to a "netsec" writer, and this just screams "too good to be true."

It also makes no logician sense. Even if Trump knew it to be true, he's not going to say it out loud, and he's WAY too delusional to think such a thing.

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:00 PM

11. Schindler isn't saying Trump believes this. He says someone else in the "inner circle" believes it.

Presumably that would be Jared, and IF AND ONLY IF this is true, Jared would be in the best position to know if DT were equally culpable.

It would have to be a NY based offense, because Pence's pardon powers wouldn't go that far. But this is conceivable, what with DTs casino-linked money-laundering past.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:11 PM

16. Ahh, that makes sense. I read it too quickly - sorry! NT

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:15 PM

18. no, he is just making shit up so people "follow" him LOL

 

Some people need attention

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:22 PM

29. That is sooo easy to say and impossible to back up.

Which is why it is soooo meaningless.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:20 PM

45. Yours is a most ironic allegation.

 

"Some people need attention..."

Yours is a most ironic allegation.

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:04 PM

13. Trump hasn't said it. If you read the tweet carefully

 

it says trusted member of Trump's circle has told friends and family....

That person didn't tell Schindler this, a friend or family member most likely did...

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Response to berni_mccoy (Reply #13)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:15 PM

17. I misread it. Sorry!! NT

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:05 PM

15. NSA Counterintelligence Officer...

..also columnist at the New York Observer.

I don't know. I guess we'll eventually find out.

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:21 PM

28. Reality is what it is independent of your beliefs.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #28)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:18 PM

44. Huh, I misread the tweet and readily admitted to it.

I'm not sure why people need to jump into attack mode so quickly, but I agreed that the initial assertion seemed more believable. That said, until it's actually verified, nobody has a definitive claim on "reality."

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #44)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 05:43 AM

54. Strange isn't it?

 

The attack mode I mean.

Some posters are *very* aggressive in their defense of charlatans like Mensch and Taylor. It's curious thing.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 12:59 PM

10. BS...

Trump may ultimately be removed from office or resign, but he's never going to jail. Sadly.

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Response to JenniferJuniper (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:02 PM

12. The NY attorney general is investigating trump related financial crimes, and those wouldn't be

subject to pardon by Pence. So prison can't be ruled out, depending on what Schneiderman finds.

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Response to JenniferJuniper (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:26 PM

33. Actually, Trump is not immune to the laws in the United States.

He actually cannot shoot people in the street when he wants, or other delusions of grandeur he proclaims. He can be indicted just like you or me, albeit he has some brief protections from proceedings while in office, nothing more. And any constitutional pardon powers of the federal system do not apply to state crimes.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:04 PM

14. ..........

 

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:33 PM

19. patience

It took SIX years to get Nixon out.

This isn't going to be quick. It won't be easy.

It is going to be miserable and grinding and seem endless...but maybe, just maybe...we can hope for justice.


Be prepared for a long, tough, slog.

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Response to MissKat (Reply #19)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:46 PM

22. Six years? More like two. Watergate break-in on 6/17/72. Nixon resignation on 8/8/74.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #22)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:12 PM

24. Nixon was elected in 68

 

The poster means it took 6 years from the time he took office.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #24)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:19 PM

25. Or Perhaps...

...the poster means 6 years after Nixon committed treason to get elected.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:36 PM

21. 'Trusted member of tRump'sinner circle'

Let it please be Jeff; oh dear lord it must be Jeff... it must be Jeff, or I will die. Or I will cry. Hello, hello? It must be him........(apologies to Peggy Lee)

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:59 PM

23. this is probably crap ......

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Response to flying-skeleton (Reply #23)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:19 PM

26. That is sooo easy to say and impossible to back up.

Which is why it is soooo meaningless.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:23 PM

30. I don't know Schindler

But, if his national security cred and prior jobs give him any sort of off-the-record access to "background" info, then this could be ominous.

I wonder if the piss video is among these alleged foreign briefings that were turned over?

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:24 PM

32. Very entertaining, but unlikely.....

I will believe it when and if it actually happens.

I hate to be a skeptic, but there is so much fiction, and soap opera quality info floating around, that I just cannot take it seriously.

I want to believe that justice, and a functional democracy exists with all of my being.

It remains to be seen at his point.

The only thing that I have absolute faith in, is that the sun will rise and set for a few more years.

That, and the fact that the Dumpster will occupy too much of our waking consciousness.

It is a shitty TV show, but the channel seems to be stuck!

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Response to Kleveland (Reply #32)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:27 PM

34. You don't seem to hate to be a skeptic.

You seem to be relishing it.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:28 PM

35. If it sounds too good to be true....it usually is

Beware of real honest-to-goodness wishful thinking but unverified fake news.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:35 PM

39. I trust Taylor and Schindler.

I trust those two more than some others I could mention, anyway.

That said... just based on the language of the tweets, this doesn't actually point to action. "I'm sure we're going to jail" can mean "I've done slimy things and I'm afraid I might get caught." Particularly if it's, say, Kushner -- who's not really known for his expertise about, well... anything. Just an idiot with a guilty conscience (guilty as in "I know I did it," not "I regret doing it." And Schindler's tweet... well, 200 countries could turn over tapes of 45 actually talking about bribery; it still would require the GOP to do something about him. And they won't. Period.

My feeling is that when they've decided he's an anchor on their reelection chances, they'll start turning more and more to a medical excuse. (And the fact that he's suddenly spent a boatload of cash on attack ads against Republican senators who are opposing the wealthcare bill just might be the anchor we need!)

That said... I'll take the hope and run with it!

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Response to Batship (Reply #39)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 11:56 AM

64. Because when he said six weeks ago that arrests would be coming "soon" he was right?

Oh wait. He wasn't.

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Response to onenote (Reply #64)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 12:53 PM

70. Define soon?

Kushner just hired high profile criminal attorney yesterday. Soon could be tomorrow, next week, or before Christmas...

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #70)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 01:25 PM

73. Soon generally doesn't mean some inefinite time in the future.

Unless you're Claude or Louise.

If one tells one's boss that they will finish a project "soon", it generally doesn't mean six or seven months from now, or maybe longer.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 02:37 PM

40. Entertaining stuff for a Monday morning.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #40)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 12:35 PM

66. Well, if he listens to Warren Zevon he can't be all bad.

Lawyers, guns and money - ya know?

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:23 PM

47. I hope this is true. We need all the help we can get.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 03:25 PM

48. Too bad for 45 we now have an extradition treaty with Paraguay.

Since 1998 - https://www.state.gov/s/l/treaty/tias/120094.htm

Otherwise, 45 might pull a Kenny-Baby.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 04:40 AM

51. Cornered rat

The rat is cornered. Traps are set.. Alert major distraction coming!

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Response to RestoreAmerica2020 (Reply #51)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:39 AM

56. Like:

"We believe Assad is going to set off chemical weapons again, (even though no one else agrees)"

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 05:25 AM

53. Fake shit to get us spreading rumors then to use us as examples of fake news. If it is true

 

just let it happen. We need to keep our eyes on the prize, not the wrapping paper.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:19 AM

55. Food around the corner

We're gonna have a feast, but it sure seems like an eternity before the table is set

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #55)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 12:37 PM

67. Well, it sure seems to be a movable feast.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 11:26 AM

58. I can't believe some of you all believe this garbage

However, I've been here since 2001 and there have always been those who fall for charlatans.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #58)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 11:29 AM

59. And what should we believe?

Trump is innocent and the rest is fake news?

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #59)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 11:34 AM

60. You should believe people who have a history

of correct reporting and the background to be believable.
For example Malcolm Nance.

You will be disappointed when all the people like Mensch, and the two tweeters in the OP turn out to be nothing but kooks.
In fact their past statements and predictions already prove that.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #60)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 11:47 AM

62. Mensch wasn't linked on here. I agree though, Mensch is not a reliable source. However,

I have not seen a reason that Taylor or Schindler were not to be believed.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #58)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 11:58 AM

65. Yup. I can't believe it either...

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Tue Jun 27, 2017, 12:55 PM

71. Fool me once...

Eh, never mind, this doesn't apply any longer in the Twitter age.

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