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Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:28 AM Jun 2017

Potential juror: Shkreli "kind of looks like a dick."

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/he-kind-of-looks-like-a-dick-potential-jurors-take-an-immediate-dislike-to-pharma-bro-martin-shkreli/

"....More than 120 potential jurors were dismissed Monday from the federal court trial in Brooklyn, where Shkreli faces eight counts of securities and wire fraud related to his two hedge funds and the drug company Retrophin, reported the New York Times.
.....
“I think he’s a very evil man,” said another woman. “I don’t think I can be fair. My opinion is pretty well formed. I wouldn’t want to serve on this jury.

But even jurors who had never heard of Shkreli seemed to hate him on sight.
“I looked right at him, and in my head, I said, ‘That’s a snake’ — not knowing who he was,” said one woman.
.......

Another man just didn’t like the looks of him.
“He kind of looks like a dick,” the man said."....




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Potential juror: Shkreli "kind of looks like a dick." (Original Post) Tanuki Jun 2017 OP
That man should be the foreman. George II Jun 2017 #1
Terrible for me to say rpannier Jun 2017 #2
I'm a nurse. We are typically selected because of Ilsa Jun 2017 #17
Same here and I've been on a jury Warpy Jun 2017 #35
"Backpfeifengesicht." Dave Starsky Jun 2017 #38
Naw, most of those bozos don't stand out until they open their mouths Warpy Jun 2017 #41
the vast majority of them need a good roundhouse kick to the jaw-- lastlib Jun 2017 #44
69 years old madokie Jun 2017 #3
You're very lucky, madokie...I have received a jury summons at least every other year since I was 18 Glorfindel Jun 2017 #9
Me too, OMG. Laffy Kat Jun 2017 #32
Seven years in a row during the late 1980s-early 1990s I was called for jury duty, and every time tblue37 Jun 2017 #20
I once served on a jury. Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2017 #59
I've always said he has one of the most punchable faces ever. Kablooie Jun 2017 #4
Right up there with Ted Cruz Saviolo Jun 2017 #5
Shkreli makes Ted Cruz look like a lovable teddy bear. smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #10
Pence is another face--makes me long for a wrecking ball. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #57
Oooo! Definitely a face in need of a fist. smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #58
His facial expressions - the Whiskeytide Jun 2017 #6
"Smug," "sneer,"and "smirk" are the words his visage automatically call to mind. nt tblue37 Jun 2017 #21
A lot of the time, I can't tell if Trump is smiling or smirking n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2017 #60
I know what you mean... Whiskeytide Jul 2017 #61
I have served on a couple of juries. TNNurse Jun 2017 #7
My dislike is particularly nasty and visceral Warpy Jun 2017 #36
A lot of people would have heard about his story by now IronLionZion Jun 2017 #8
kind of? dhill926 Jun 2017 #11
Shkreli not only looks like an evil dick, he PatrickforO Jun 2017 #12
And that smug little smirk really makes me want to deck him! BigmanPigman Jun 2017 #19
The most positive thing I can say HuskyOffset Jun 2017 #13
He exhales carbon dioxide Bob Loblaw Jun 2017 #28
Bob Loblaw's HuskyOffset Jun 2017 #37
I think even plants hold their breath... Dave Starsky Jun 2017 #39
He would be just as bad as Hitler. LiberalFighter Jun 2017 #52
Prototypical, modern Republican paleotn Jun 2017 #14
Everyone deserves a fair trial by an impartial jury of their peers. That being said... stevenleser Jun 2017 #15
So find a dozen psychopaths to sit on a jury csziggy Jun 2017 #22
So find a dozen republicans to sit on a jury Bob Loblaw Jun 2017 #25
Synonyms - as in a rose by any other name csziggy Jun 2017 #26
I think the conversation went something like this: Ray Bruns Jun 2017 #16
You sir... LOL Lib Jun 2017 #31
Juror: "We would like to strike the defendant." The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #34
The government should make pharmaceuticals. panader0 Jun 2017 #18
He has "weasel resting face". Sugar Smack Jun 2017 #23
maybe but weasels are still cuter :P JHan Jun 2017 #27
Sounds like it's setting up for him to be able to claim a discriminatory jury... MadDAsHell Jun 2017 #24
You just want to slap him on sight. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #29
Has a punchable face just like Ted Cruz. Sneederbunk Jun 2017 #30
Their is a poster on Discussionist by that name. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #33
sounds like he needs mercuryblues Jun 2017 #40
Bull wouldn't take his case. Beacool Jun 2017 #43
That's because he IS a dick. Beacool Jun 2017 #42
Nah, he's just foreskin-- lastlib Jun 2017 #45
LOL!!! Beacool Jun 2017 #49
This thread needs a pic.. Cha Jun 2017 #46
Hahaha... thanks, Cha.... why, he wouldn't harm a fly! Tanuki Jun 2017 #47
Courtroom sketch artist has him down cold pokerfan Jul 2017 #53
The artist is good.. Mahalo, pokerfan Cha Jul 2017 #54
If it looks like a dick and acts like a dick, it's probably a dick. n/t OnlinePoker Jun 2017 #48
Kind of? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2017 #50
A lawyer friend once had a client who had a really good case - The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #51
One juror said his only conflict of interest would be which prison to send Shkreli to. Vinca Jul 2017 #55
The best thing about that line... Princess Turandot Jul 2017 #56

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
2. Terrible for me to say
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 07:58 AM
Jun 2017

Put me on that jury and he's guilty
Which is why I should not serve on his jury
I can be impartial about 99% of people on trial
Him, I cannot

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
17. I'm a nurse. We are typically selected because of
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jun 2017

our objectivity in dealing with all kinds of patients. I'm afraid I'd be napping with my eyes open during the trial ( ) and voting Guilty the moment the jury deliberation room door is shut.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
35. Same here and I've been on a jury
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:30 AM
Jun 2017

They put Shkreli on the stand, he's toast. They allow the jurors a view of him sitting there smirking all through the trial, he's toast. And that's with 12 of us on the jury.

Some people project who and what they are and my best advice to them is to give up on grifting because they're going to get caught and no juror is going to give them a sympathy vote. Shkreli is one of those. He suffers from having what Germans call a backpfeifengesicht, a face in need of a slap.

I'd upgrade that to a punch, personally.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
38. "Backpfeifengesicht."
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 07:38 AM
Jun 2017

I'm writing that one down.

Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Sean Hannity... so many in that party of goblins that fit this exceptionally apt description.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
41. Naw, most of those bozos don't stand out until they open their mouths
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 02:03 PM
Jun 2017

and put their stupidity on display. Shkreli can just stand in a corner silently and people will want to punch him.

That's the difference.

lastlib

(23,224 posts)
44. the vast majority of them need a good roundhouse kick to the jaw--
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 07:45 AM
Jun 2017

one that'd make Billy Jack jealous!

madokie

(51,076 posts)
3. 69 years old
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:01 AM
Jun 2017

and no felonies or any reason for but I've never been asked to be on a jury, not once in my lifetime.
Got busted for pot seeds back soon after returning from the war is my only sin

Yes I said POT seeds. I'd rolled those seeds down a shoe box lid or an album cover looking for a smidgen of reefer so many time I swear there was NO pot left in those seeds, none, nada zilch but got a 1 year deferred sentence anyway. Bastards all of them

Pot seeds were not illegal to possess at the time best I remember.

Glorfindel

(9,729 posts)
9. You're very lucky, madokie...I have received a jury summons at least every other year since I was 18
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:07 AM
Jun 2017

I have served on grand juries, civil juries, criminal juries, and once even a coroner's jury. I got a jury summons while I was in Vietnam, but they wouldn't let me come home to do my civic duty. Serving on juries is tedious, boring, and inconvenient. Trust me, you haven't missed a thing.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
32. Me too, OMG.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:02 AM
Jun 2017

So many jury services and I most always get picked. In February of this year I served on a two-day trial and they called me again for May. I got out of it since they have this "one jury, one day" thing, but you better believe I'll get called again next year. Meanwhile, I know so many people who never get called. I don't get it.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
20. Seven years in a row during the late 1980s-early 1990s I was called for jury duty, and every time
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:06 PM
Jun 2017

I had to ask to be excused because I am *severely* hearing impaired and I don't sign, and back then I had not managed yet to save enough money to purchase hearing aids. But they kept calling me every darned year and then excusing me after I sent in my request to be excused.

Finally I got a letter from them saying I was excused long term, but that the exemption could change in the future if they decided to call me again.

It was a real PITA to have to write up a request every year to be excused. Some people NEVER get called at all, but some people get called over and over and over again.

One time I actually had to go to the courthouse and go through jury selection. I had to have the woman next to me tell me what questions the lawyers were asking us. Sometimes she had to write the question out, because even with her that close, and even with reading her lips, I still couldn't understand a lot of what she said.

I finally was dismissed when I asked a question that the prosecutor did not like. They were trying a teenaged defendant for a Kwik Shop robbery. The prosecutor asked whether we would be in any way influenced by the fact that the kid was young. I asked how young he was, and that question made me persona non grata to the prosecutor, who peremptorily dismissed me from the jury pool. Ironically enough, the kid's age would not have influenced me if the evidence pointed to guilt. I was actually just curious.

Still, the fact that I couldn''t even understand most of what was being said in the courtroom should have been sufficient to get me out of there--and yet it wasn't.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
59. I once served on a jury.
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 07:24 AM
Jul 2017

The defendant was charged with leaving the scene of an accident. We agreed that the man had caused the accident, that he was driving in an unsafe manner and was a menace on the public roads. However, we also agreed that he had not left the scene of the accident. He had merely gone on about a hundred yards to a place where his car would not be blocking traffic.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
5. Right up there with Ted Cruz
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:11 AM
Jun 2017

Except looking at Cruz, I feel like my hand would just land in a soft mass of melting skin. *shudder*

They both fill me with revulsion.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. Shkreli makes Ted Cruz look like a lovable teddy bear.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:14 AM
Jun 2017

And that's saying something. That's how BAD Shkreli is. I actually think he might be more of a dick than Trump. It's definitely a toss up.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
58. Oooo! Definitely a face in need of a fist.
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 02:56 PM
Jul 2017

What a sickening bunch of men they are! How do people grow up to be so evil and hateful?

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
6. His facial expressions - the
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:13 AM
Jun 2017

... forced, fake smile with a smug, condescending air just beneath it - do make him look like a dick. They are the same expressions Trump uses. Must be a sociopath thing.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
7. I have served on a couple of juries.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:16 AM
Jun 2017

Helped convict someone of "felony stupidity", that was not actually the decision. He rented a big truck for a friend who did not have a credit card, he signed the contract. Friend left big truck on side of road with damaged tires and body. He did not think he was responsible, therefore felony stupidity due to value of the truck.

Always thought I would sincerely say that I would never vote for the death penalty, which I would not. That could disqualify you from a jury.


This guy could almost make me say "He deserves the death penalty".


Warpy

(111,255 posts)
36. My dislike is particularly nasty and visceral
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:41 AM
Jun 2017

because he reminds me of every preppie putz who got into the Ivy League on daddy's coattails (and hefty donation) who was looking for ways to cheat his way through so he could graduate and grift his way through big business, again with a hefty assist from daddy's reputation.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
8. A lot of people would have heard about his story by now
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 08:58 AM
Jun 2017

it would be hard to find people who don't have an opinion about him. Which is what a lot of celebrities' lawyers use to dismiss jurors.

His face does look very punchable. That should be part of any settlement offered: a punch to his smug mug from families of his victims


PatrickforO

(14,572 posts)
12. Shkreli not only looks like an evil dick, he
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jun 2017
IS

an evil dick!


This guy is in fact the face of corporate greed in America.

HuskyOffset

(888 posts)
13. The most positive thing I can say
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:35 AM
Jun 2017

about Martin Shkreli is . . . he's not quite as bad as Adolf Hitler. Now, that being said, I think the only reason he's not as bad as Hitler is because he doesn't have the political power required to do what Hitler did.

HuskyOffset

(888 posts)
37. Bob Loblaw's
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 05:53 AM
Jun 2017

law blog lobs legal bombs . . . well done sir, well done. You are one helluva silver lining finder, I bow to you and stand before you corrected.

LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
52. He would be just as bad as Hitler.
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 07:14 PM
Jun 2017

He would had been in charge of throwing the lever to discharge the gas so he could rip out the gold teeth and take all of their jewelry.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. Everyone deserves a fair trial by an impartial jury of their peers. That being said...
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:54 AM
Jun 2017

Shkreli did this to himself. And if he gets a severe punishment, few will have deserved it so richly.

Ray Bruns

(4,093 posts)
16. I think the conversation went something like this:
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:59 AM
Jun 2017

Lawyer for Shkreli, "Your honor, we would like to strike this juror."
Judge, "On what grounds?"
Lawyer for Shkreli,, "He his prejudicial against my client."
Judge, "How do you know this?"
Lawyer for Shkreli, "He stated my client looks like a "dick"."
Judge," That is not an opinion, it is a statement of fact."

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
24. Sounds like it's setting up for him to be able to claim a discriminatory jury...
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:26 PM
Jun 2017

Wasn't there some precedent set recently where if you can prove even one juror had demonstrated discriminatory behavior in their lives, you can get the entire verdict thrown out?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
29. You just want to slap him on sight.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 11:31 PM
Jun 2017

The Germans have the best word: Backpfeifengesicht - a face in need of a fist.

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
33. Their is a poster on Discussionist by that name.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:06 AM
Jun 2017

Equally nasty. Hmmm. I wonder if that is them posting.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
51. A lawyer friend once had a client who had a really good case -
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 08:59 PM
Jun 2017

it was a personal injury case where the other driver was clearly at fault, and the client had some genuine, though not life-threatening, injuries. But she was so unlikeable, whiney and obnoxious that my friend knew that if he let a jury see her she'd either lose altogether, or at very best get a verdict much too small to compensate her for her actual damages. So he had to talk her into settling the case, which was tricky because he couldn't really tell her she shouldn't go to trial (which she wanted to do) because the jury would hate her. He did manage somehow, and got a fair settlement - though the cranky, whiney client thought it wasn't enough; what she did want was both unreasonable and impossible.

It's hard to be a lawyer for a horrible client. Everyone is entitled to fair representation but it's not easy to do it.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
56. The best thing about that line...
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 06:58 AM
Jul 2017

is that the juror said that directly to the judge, in response to a question from her. (She questioned numerous potential jurors in a sidebar with only the various attorneys present, so the replies wouldn't bias the other jurors.)

She apparently did not reprimand him for vulgar language. Brooklyn rules! (Perhaps).

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