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Stupid, stupid Wisconsin: Scott Walker now polling higher than Senator Tammy Baldwin (Original Post) Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 OP
Wisconsin .... LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #1
Yup RhodeIslandOne Jun 2017 #4
On our way? Already there. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 #8
"It's over." LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #9
Becoming a religious fundie shit hole Matthew28 Jun 2017 #2
Well, the source of the cancer is in Kansas. Witchita, specifically. Initech Jun 2017 #7
Ya hey der.... AngryAmish Jun 2017 #3
Honestly, wtf is wrong with that state? smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #5
Poll has a lot of bad news for Trump & Co too. Kaleva Jun 2017 #6
actually their net approval is the same (0) dsc Jun 2017 #10
How would Feingold-D do against Walker-R? nkpolitics1212 Jun 2017 #12
Probably not good, considering he lost to a damn idiot like Johnson Thrill Jun 2017 #13
Isn't Walker bigger damn idiot than Johnson? nkpolitics1212 Jun 2017 #14
Iowa and Wisconsin are heading away from the Democrats. Dawson Leery Jun 2017 #11
Iowa has moved away but Wisconsin is not as bad as this thread indicates Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #17
Vinehout???? She's potentially running. a kennedy Jun 2017 #15
Kathleen Vinehout COULD actually win. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 #16
Good news then......yah, I LOL when they called her a tax and spend a kennedy Jun 2017 #18

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
1. Wisconsin ....
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 06:58 PM
Jun 2017

Is on it's way to becoming a deep-red, right to work state exclusively.

Just WOW @ Still In Wisconsin.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
8. On our way? Already there.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:11 PM
Jun 2017

Eliminate public employee unions? Check. Enact right to work? Check. Shift $ from public schools to vouchers? check. Voter suppression laws? Check.

Wisconsin is deep red. It's over.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
9. "It's over."
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 08:45 PM
Jun 2017

Yeah, I just didn't want to say it though, especially given the state Wisconsin used to be and what it stood for

Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
2. Becoming a religious fundie shit hole
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 07:02 PM
Jun 2017

and a third world state.

This is why America is in trouble as this cancer is spreading.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
7. Well, the source of the cancer is in Kansas. Witchita, specifically.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 07:23 PM
Jun 2017

The source is a metastasized tumor known as Koch Industries that has spread to several states including Wisconsin and Kentucky. Time to get to work on applying some much needed chemotherapy.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
6. Poll has a lot of bad news for Trump & Co too.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 07:19 PM
Jun 2017

Majority of Wisconsinites support keeping ObamaCare for example.

dsc

(52,160 posts)
10. actually their net approval is the same (0)
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 09:56 PM
Jun 2017

She is apparently less well known than he is (which makes sense as he has been a statewide official for 7 years vs her 4). What is sad is that Johnson polls better than either of them and he is just awful.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
17. Iowa has moved away but Wisconsin is not as bad as this thread indicates
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 01:02 AM
Jun 2017

Wisconsin had 34% conservatives and 25% liberals in the 2016 exit poll. That is a classic swing state. The national exit poll also had a 9% gap.

Our problem in Wisconsin was neglect. Previously no state with a single digit gap in that category had ever voted for the Republican in all the decades I have followed or looked up. In 2016 we managed 3 examples. But since the liberal/conservative percentage is not bad those states should return to our camp.

Iowa, on the other hand, was 40% conservatives and 23% liberals. That state is 91% white in the electorate. White males have shifted away from us. Ohio is somewhat similar although only 80% whites. The conservative/liberal split was 39-20. I would be very surprised if we carried either Iowa or Ohio in 2020, regardless of the nominee of either party.

Georgia is a fraud. I have no idea why we continue to hold hopes for Georgia. The state was 42% conservatives and 22% liberals. In other words, both categories would have to shift more than 5% in our direction to make it a swing state, let alone a favorable state.

Arizona is a different story. In all the decades I've followed this category, Arizona 2016 was the first state to report higher than the national average in both conservatives and liberals. The breakdown was 41-27. What a polarized state, with only 32% moderates.

Arizona is probably at least two cycles away but the 27% liberals is a great sign. The national mark was 26%. Arizona is 75% whites in the electorate, which is above the national average but trending in our direction. We really should make a big push to register Hispanics and other minorities in Arizona.

Wisconsin has 86% whites in the electorate, BTW. I should have mentioned that earlier. I'll never understand how we could take states for granted when the demographics were not overwhelmingly favorable. Those upper midwestern states may be more liberal than other regions but with below average minority numbers they were always vulnerable to fear and therefore betrayal.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
16. Kathleen Vinehout COULD actually win.
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 12:55 AM
Jun 2017

She wanted to run four years ago but the stupid State party shot her down. She's from a small town, has been a farm woman, understands the state outside of Milwaukee and Madison, and is a damned fine person.

She would be my choice. Please, as much as I love him, NOT Madison mayor Paul Soglin. I am firmly convinced nobody from Milwaukee or Madison can win on the D side. The former would (has been) accused of coming from/running the "shithole" that is Milwaukee, and the latter would/has been accused of being from a liberal oasis. For the record I grew up in Milwaukee and went to school for 9 years in Madison, and love both places dearly. But now that I live in the western hinterlands of the state, I can see how differently people see things.

Vinehout would be great. I hope she's the nominee.

On edit: The repugs are calling her a tax-and-spend Madison liberal? SHE. IS. NOT. FROM MADISON!!!

Alma, WI assholes, population ~ 700

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
18. Good news then......yah, I LOL when they called her a tax and spend
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 06:34 AM
Jun 2017

Madison liberal too. Agree with no to a Milwaukee/Madison candidate.....

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