Anyone watching MSNBC? Richard Engel doing a phenomenial job on Russia criminal history, dead

[Amaryllis]

Russians - many more of them than we ever knew - how the country became the Russian mob; just getting into stolen money hidden in US and used to buy property here. I can see it leading right to Trump. Yeah, i love Rachel, but Richard is doing amazing work here.

Edited to add: doing a segment now on how Christian conservatives are falling in love with Russia - his words! because they consider Putin's values to be their values!!! "He is an honest person."
49% of repub voters consider Russia friendly or an ally!!!

[Ccarmona]

1. +1

It's an amazing, chilling account of today's Russia under Putin.

[SergeStorms]

37. It's an amazing, chilling account......

of today's CHRISTIANS! I guess anyone who thinks Putin is an "honest" person is dumb enough to believe the religious dogma that's shoved down their throats.

Putin shares their "values".

Many people in this country have gone certifiably insane.

[busterbrown]

57. Its all about the money!

Reverends scare the Congregation...Then pass the plate...(All types of Donations)_ Who knows how the money is spent.
But.. I’m sure it’s not in their Congrations interest!

[duhneece]

63. And none dare call it treason...

except the Democrats.

[shraby]

2. Richard knows his stuff.

[Ilsa]

3. Recording it. Thanks for the big rec. nt

[DURHAM D]

4. Yes and it is terrifying.

The lesson is "What happens when criminals take control of the government?"

Now happening here. I don't just mean Trump. I include all of his elected and appointment supporters.



Note: For how much longer will U.S. citizens be able to post questions/statements like the one above on the internet.

[WinkyDink]

38. They loot. Today's Republican pols want literally to do nothing more, nothing less.

[lunatica]

58. they do what they always do - what they know

They skim off the top. They sell "protection" to legitimate business owners. They send their enemies to live with the fishes. They buy influential people such as judges, politicians, police captains, etc. They consolidate their power by force, payoffs, murder and corruption.

[Satch59]

5. Yes, really interesting...

He has good credibility and gets interviews with some interesting people. Was thinking today as Putin pointed to reporters and asked Trump if these were the ones insulting him...disgusting... Trump treated Putin as an honorable man...he's a murderer...come on!

[FakeNoose]

6. Yes and I'm glad he has his own show now

As I understand it, this is a summer fill-in to give Rachel an extra night off.

But wouldn't it be great if they found room in the schedule for Richard to get a regular show?
Like maybe around 6 p.m. would be great.

[DURHAM D]

7. The problem is that they know Americans won't watch

international news. They change the station. Even some DUers are complaining that their daily Trump swill is not on.

[FakeNoose]

12. I've been watching his reports for years on flagship NBC news

He reports on Lester Holt's nightly news, and occasionally other shows.

I've always liked that guy, and wondered how many languages he speaks.
It seems he must be fluent in Arabic, but I'm not sure what other languages.
He always gets good interviews because he relates to them in their own language.

As far as international news - what do you think is on CNN?
People make of point of watching CNN because they want the international news updates.
I think there's a big interest in international news, however it's not equally spread across our culture.
I don't include the deplorables, but who cares about them? They're watching Faux anyway.

[Amaryllis]

9. I'd have no objection to him being a FRiday night regular. RAchel puts so much into her show;

I feel protective toward her. Let's keep her healthy so she doesn't burn out! THis is some amazing investigative work he's done here.

[politicat]

35. He can't do an anchor job if he's international,

And he can't do what he's the apex at if he's got an anchor job. I'm going to enjoy having him for a while, but won't begrudge when he goes back in the field.

[Samantha]

44. Ari Melber is getting his own show at 6:00 pm

He was filling in for Lawrence O'Donnell and mentioned that to his audience tonight. I am happy for him. He has been doing a great job.

Sam

[whathehell]

52. Yep, I like Ari

and I will be watching his new show.

[nolabear]

8. Yes, it's really chilling. Mob rule at the highest level.

And a dead ringer for the mind of thing we seem headed toward.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Putin thickens burial plots. . . . . nt

[WinkyDink]

40. ;-)

[BigmanPigman]

11. He's living up to my high expectations!

[OldRedneck]

13. Two of the most important reports I've ever seen

Richard Engel -- standing in for Rachel -- laid out two of the most important stories I've ever seen, heard, or read.

1. He laid out in detail the rise of Putin; Putin's connections with the Russian oligarchs; Putin's use of violence, terror, and murder; and, Putin's history of manipulating everyone.

2. Connections between US biblethumpers and Russia. US biblethumpers are climbing into bed with Russians because -- get this: "We share the same values -- opposition to gays and same-gender marriage!!!" And for that, they are throwing in with our mortal enemy.

[Amaryllis]

17. Did you catch the statement about 49% of repubs consider Russia friendly and an ally?

[babylonsister]

18. I watched. That is terrifying and I had no idea. nt

[Amaryllis]

20. Did you catch the bit about the NRA and them hanging out with some well known Russian guy?

I only peripherally caught that.
Guns, gays and God all over again, or maybe it's still rather than again.

[Duppers]

25. The Washington Post has a good article covering

this report.

Sickening...

Guns and religion: How American conservatives grew closer to Putin’s Russia - April 30

"Brown, president of the National Organization for Marriage, has visited Moscow four times in four years, including a 2013 trip during which he testified before the Duma as Russia adopted a series of anti-gay laws.

“What I realized was that there was a great change happening in the former Soviet Union,” he said. “There was a real push to re-instill Christian values in the public square.”

A significant shift has been underway in recent years across the Republican right.

On issues including gun rights, terrorism and same-sex marriage, many leading advocates on the right who grew frustrated with their country’s leftward tilt under President Barack Obama have forged ties with well-connected Russians and come to see that country’s authoritarian leader, Vladimir Putin, as a potential ally."

Much more...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-republican-right-found-allies-in-russia/2017/04/30/e2d83ff6-29d3-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?utm_term=.45fa043dd455


Added: This Brown guy is a dumbass RW lawyer in Nashville.

[Amaryllis]

27. That aricle should have it's own OP. Did you post it?

[Duppers]

28. No. Thought about it.

Please, please be my guest.

Thank you.

[Dustlawyer]

30. To protect Trump the RW propaganda had to come to Putin's defense.

These brainwashed idiots have proven that they will justify ANYTHING!!!

We MUST break up the media empires and require truth in the news.

[WinkyDink]

39. And unfettered greed. Never forget the shared avarice.

[Samantha]

45. and don't forget the guns -- they support the NRA's perspective on carrying weapons

Engel's whole segment which of course followed up behind Trump's meeting left me totally stunned. Tillerson's comments that even though we did not get a consensus on the hacking of the 2016 election (despite the fact so many of our security agencies state unequivocally Russia meddled), we must move past that and get on with other important matters. In other words, roll over and forget about it.

I could not believe that. Just move on. I also could not believe Putin asked for us to give him evidence of the Russian hacking. Like our security agents would do that....

At the end of the day today, I just kept thinking about Trump and Tillerson's conduct and my sense of anxiety over the future of our Country tremendously increased. I think Trump has failed to protect our interests and our security and everyday he sits in the Oval Office our freedoms are threatened. I know Mueller has to take his time to complete the investigations he is conducting, but it is unnerving to think we can continue like this for months if not years. Too much can get lost in that wait-time.

Sam

[Cosmocat]

54. 45 is not the issue

Its the people of the country and how "we" just follow republicans down whatever crazy ass rat hole they drag us into.

9-11, despite it being abundantly clear they were not threat to the US, they drug us into Iraq,

We sit here today with these morons struggling to outdo themselves with proposals to completely gut our health care system.

And, 1/3 of the country is cheering them on and 1/3 of the country is tuned out or lapping up the "they are both the same" bullshit.

45 is the symptom ...

[lunatica]

59. I think he's the personification of and the living symbol of the corruption in our country

Look at Trump and you see the standard bearer, the flag carrier, the head cheerleader, the Miss America, the pope of corruption in our political and cultural system.

[busterbrown]

55. laders of Bible Thumpers..Reverends? Only care about one thing..

The fucking money(Donations)......Scare the Shit out of their followers and then pass the plate

[roamer65]

14. .

[SummerSnow]

15. It was great. That hour went by fast cause it was so interesting

[nolabear]

48. I was shocked when it was over. He could likely do a series.

The religious right being so pro Russia stunned me. We are in some serious oppression territory here.

[Hieronymus]

16. His coverage of the ..

Christian Right's love affair with Putin and Russia was frightening.

[Samantha]

46. Budding in Nashville, Tennessee of all places

A Christian minister participated in explaining the appeal. This is a nightmare.

Sam

[badhair77]

19. I had no idea the southern evangelicals loved Putin so much.

And led by the smarmy Franklin Graham. Disgusting. Also, I'm intrigued with the NRA's connection. I'd like to know more about that.

Frankly I now need to go watch something funny because although it was an excellent show it will keep me from sleeping tonight. I'm not sorry I watched it, however.

[milestogo]

22. For me that was the most frightening part of the show.

Christian persecution, my ass. These people are too stupid to recognize right from wrong, friends from enemies, good from bad. They have utterly abandoned rational thought.

[Hieronymus]

26. That one guy commenting that a Russian

would blend in in Nashville .. that's because they're white.

[hedda_foil]

41. The NRA is what scares me now that their spokesmodel is pointing their guns straight at us.

I can't help but think this has been the billionaire agenda all along... going waaaaay back.

[blaze]

62. And they used the creation of f*x to get here. nt

[moondust]

21. Good work.

Some may recall commentators on Fox and elsewhere having a love affair with the autocratic Putin.

Rudy Giuliani: Unlike Obama, Putin is “what you call a leader”

When the right loved Vladimir Putin

[AntiFascist]

23. The Religious Right rears its ugly ahead once again...

making our country even worse than ever.

[FailureToCommunicate]

24. Till that program, I honestly didn't think I could get more depressed and bleak about the future of

our democracy. But it is happening.
Almost every past President must be spinning in their graves. And any veteran, or diplomat, or citizen who sought to preserve our nation from enemies domestic or FOREIGN, should be howling at what is transpiring right before our eyes!

[Hamlette]

29. the subject line reads "Richard Engel . . . dead" which freaked me out.

This is the only report of his demise I can find so I'm assuming it is a bad job of where to break subject line.

[George II]

31. How does murder fall into Christian conservative values, morals?

[WinkyDink]

43. "Anti-Communism" supersedes EVERYTHING to them.

[State the Obvious]

32. I've always admired Engel's reporting...

He reminds me of the in-depth reporting we saw a few decades ago. We need more of this

Next Friday's "On Assignment" is supposedly about Isis in Iraq. MSNBC would be wise to promote these special reports more heavily. I'd like to hear what Engel would say about the Mueller investigations, too.

[sharedvalues]

33. Important: Putin equals Oligarchs equals Russian mob

The government, organized crime, and big business in Russia ARE THE SAME THING.
When US companies take money from "Russian oligarchs" they're serving Putin's interests, because he controls the oligarchs.

[WinkyDink]

42. Trump has been involved and BEHOLDEN for DECADES. THAT is why his obsequiousness.

[lunatica]

60. And it's vise versa applies too

He passionately kisses Putin's ass because Putin gives him wealth.

[lordsummerisle]

34. Trump is taking lessons here

Russia is ruled by the oligarchs (or the Russian mafia if you will) and Trump needs to follow through on what he has begun.

[elmac]

36. Richard is my favorite Journalist

Glad he has got his own show every Friday night. He tells it like it is.

[tiredtoo]

47. how do the conservatives comply with Reagan's evil empire stance? EOM

[WinkyDink]

65. "That was then; this is now" is my guess.

[wryter2000]

49. Engle is amazing

If all the reporters on television were of his caliber, this country wouldn't be such a mess.

[Enoki33]

50. Richard Engle went beyond saying Russia is a criminal enterprise

to professionally explaining how and why. If you were not frightened by their control of trump and his family before do so now. It is a roadmap of where we could be headed.

[Loubee]

51. Essential TV, but..

I wish they would have given him Chris Matthews' or Brian Williams' Friday slots instead of taking it away from Rachel. (But maybe she's exhausting from carrying the cable reporting burden and needed more time off.)

[Amaryllis]

53. THat's what i think. We want to keep her around and don't want her burning out.

[lunatica]

56. I watched and loved it!

thanks for this thread! Rec'd and kick'd

[samnsara]

61. that segment about the russian loving christian conservatives was really crazy!!!

[TheFrenchRazor]

64. repugs love russia - they gave up the communism but kept the totalitarianism; it's a mafia nation,

which is exactly what the KGOP wants for america.

[WinkyDink]

66. Exactly. "they gave up the communism but kept the totalitarianism."

[KrazyinKS]

67. Oh my GOD!!!

I watched that. A lot of information there. Needs to be watched more than once. What gives me nightmares was the last part where he said they have infiltrated the NRA, the NRA loves him and so does Franklin Graham. They did the segment on Nashville to make their point. How does that happen? I am still scratching my brain. You have got to give him credit, Putin is brilliant, he knows those guys. Very scary-there is no reasoning with those guys. My sister-in-law was staying at my house and Inside Edition was doing a segment on Trump and she turned up her cell phone to drown out the Trump stuff. I told my husband she is going to have a long four years. Her husband is on VA disability and she has no idea what is in his budget concerning VA disability. NONE!!! I dare not mention it, what a riot that would start. I mean I just can not say a thing around here. The neighbor a Southern Baptist thinks trump is great and what a great cabinet he has!!! GAWD I am going to try to drown my head in the toilet. I think maybe just move. I am ready to take a little vacation and look for property in another state, I am getting serious about that.

[Hieronymus]

68. Engel is a great reporter.