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deminks

(11,014 posts)
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:29 PM Jul 2017

This isnt quite the truth yet: Ex-US attorney says Trump Jr. is still lying about Russian lawyer

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/this-isnt-quite-the-truth-yet-ex-us-attorney-says-trump-jr-is-still-lying-about-russian-lawyer/

A former U.S. attorney told MSNBC on Sunday that President Donald Trump’s son, Donald Jr. is still lying when it comes to the meeting in June with Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya, who reportedly told Trump Jr. that she had damaging intelligence on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

Ex-U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance said, “So, it looks like Trump Jr. is now engaging in what prosecutors call incremental truth telling — when you have a problem that you’re sitting on top of, you tell just as much as you think you have to tell to put yourself into the clear. And then you tell a little bit more, and a little bit more.”

Trump Jr. has given conflicting stories about what Veselnitskaya said in their meeting. At first, he said the conversation was about adoption. Then, on Sunday he admitted that Veselnitskaya had offered to reveal compromising information to him about Clinton, but says that the claims didn’t make sense and that he dismissed them.

Vance said that whatever Trump Jr.’s intentions were, he should have contacted law enforcement when approached by a foreign agent offering access to stolen information.

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This isnt quite the truth yet: Ex-US attorney says Trump Jr. is still lying about Russian lawyer (Original Post) deminks Jul 2017 OP
Different stories everyday work for Dad, why not him? blueinredohio Jul 2017 #1
CNN is reporting that the NY Times has even more info. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #2
A Trump told a lie?!?! Quanta Jul 2017 #18
Oh, sweet post, deminks! I'm havin the best Sunday ever!! Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #3
But instead Junior broke the law and betrayed America Achilleaze Jul 2017 #24
' incremental truth telling ' elleng Jul 2017 #4
I call that lying until you run out of lies to tell. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #7
What I like best is the Republicans' "la-de-dah" response gratuitous Jul 2017 #5
These slimy fuckers are incapable of telling the truth. MerryBlooms Jul 2017 #6
When you're not interested in what someone is selling... Barack_America Jul 2017 #8
Three people in the meeting will have three stories & three avenues for Mueller. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #9
I think it's obvious that Jr's newest story about the Russians and the DNC is not the truth about -Steph- Jul 2017 #10
I'm guessing they told him they had the DNC emails marylandblue Jul 2017 #19
Wow. Now that would be explosive Blue_Roses Jul 2017 #22
First Day of Psych 101 ok_cpu Jul 2017 #11
Rats and grifters traitors TEB Jul 2017 #12
A Trump caught lying? How can that be? LuckyLib Jul 2017 #13
On behalf of every animal he slaughtered malaise Jul 2017 #14
Exactly! Blue_Roses Jul 2017 #23
Is this another meeting that Kushner failed to report tikka Jul 2017 #15
lordy i hope there are tapes. mopinko Jul 2017 #16
or excremental lying H2O Man Jul 2017 #17
It could be a modified, limited hangout. Tactical Peek Jul 2017 #20
The repubs are cannibalizing each other. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #21

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
2. CNN is reporting that the NY Times has even more info.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:33 PM
Jul 2017

The Donald Jr is screwed...every "explanation" he gives is turning out to be another lie almost as soon as he says it or tweets it! Is he lawyered up yet?

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
3. Oh, sweet post, deminks! I'm havin the best Sunday ever!!
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:34 PM
Jul 2017

"Vance said that whatever Trump Jr.’s intentions were, he should have contacted law enforcement when approached by a foreign agent offering access to stolen information."

My, my, my


Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
24. But instead Junior broke the law and betrayed America
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 06:39 AM
Jul 2017

in order to advance the aims of his daddy, the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. What I like best is the Republicans' "la-de-dah" response
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:39 PM
Jul 2017

These are the same fuckers who went absolutely nuts about the Benghazi attack, when the Obama administration didn't have every last detail completely right in the first hours after the attack. Here's' Donald Trump Jr., whose story a couple of months ago was that no meeting took place. Then, oh yeah, THAT meeting. Nothing important was discussed. Oh, you found out about that? Yeah, we thought we'd get some dirt on Hillary Clinton, but it turns out that wasn't part of it. I should have reported that? Uhhhh, well . . . see, I'm too inexperienced in the arcane ways of government to know what the right thing to do is.

What will the story be next week?

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
8. When you're not interested in what someone is selling...
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:46 PM
Jul 2017

...you don't let them continue to ramble on about their price for it.

One of the main reasons this is such obvious bullshit.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
9. Three people in the meeting will have three stories & three avenues for Mueller.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:51 PM
Jul 2017

They won't be able to maintain the cover story in the same detail and one will crack and squeal on the others.

Maybe Kushner since he is quasi-independent despite marriage to Ivanka. He also has his own financial troubles that he might think will be solved by distancing his brand from the Republican-Trump brand.

{excerpt}Kushner has been under investigation after failing to disclose his own meetings with Russian officials during Trump’s transition in December, and the Times found this new revelation through a revised version of a form that Kushner filled out to receive a government security clearance.{/excerpt} http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/donald-trump-jr-met-with-russian-lawyer-after-being-promised-damaging-intel-on-hillary-clinton-report_us_59629482e4b0615b9e926ea0

Mini-Trump is family and presumably wants to inherit, so he's unlikely to shit on the family business.

Manafort has probably decided his business interests lie with right wing Eastern European & Russian politics. But he might break if the option for standing pat is jail time. On the other hand he might bolt to Russia and burn his bridge to the USA.

-Steph-

(409 posts)
10. I think it's obvious that Jr's newest story about the Russians and the DNC is not the truth about
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 08:04 PM
Jul 2017

what was discussed during that meeting. What's Jr hiding this time???

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
19. I'm guessing they told him they had the DNC emails
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 10:09 PM
Jul 2017

and wanted to know what they could get in exchange for releasing them. I'm also guessing that Jr. won't remember talking about that.

malaise

(268,987 posts)
14. On behalf of every animal he slaughtered
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 08:55 PM
Jul 2017

I am celebrating the fact that he knows he's been caught, trapped, choose your word.
LOCK THEM ALL UP FOR TREASON!

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
23. Exactly!
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 06:27 AM
Jul 2017

That in itself is disgusting. I just don't understand the killing of those animals just for trophy. It takes a cold heart to do that.

tikka

(762 posts)
15. Is this another meeting that Kushner failed to report
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 08:57 PM
Jul 2017

I would have thought that if this was a previously known meeting that we would have known Diaper Donny was there, too. If this is another undisclosed meeting for Kushner, it's another nail in his coffin.

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