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Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:08 PM Jul 2017

If Trump fires Mueller to prevent indictment of Junior, then what?

Will Junior be indicted anyway?
Will Republicans support Trumps firing of Mueller?
If Junior is indicted , then what?

Hell, I haven't got a clue..just asking ??

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If Trump fires Mueller to prevent indictment of Junior, then what? (Original Post) Stuart G Jul 2017 OP
Trump needs to understand that nothing will save him/them Renew Deal Jul 2017 #1
Perhaps you are right..the good guys sure got those behind Watergate...and Stuart G Jul 2017 #4
General Strike! Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #2
I agree, appropriate, but elleng Jul 2017 #5
I do not recall one. In the 40s there was strike that Truman ended..(I think, not sure) Stuart G Jul 2017 #6
'The 1952 steel strike was a strike by the United Steelworkers of America against U.S. Steel elleng Jul 2017 #10
To my knowledge, there has never been a general strike in the USA. Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #9
Right. elleng Jul 2017 #11
Then 2018 becomes a referendum on Russia Best_man23 Jul 2017 #3
The peasants with pitchforks and torches will march over to "the Hill"! democratisphere Jul 2017 #7
Remember, laws don't enforce themselves. Girard442 Jul 2017 #8
Yes - I remember reading early on in this...this thing...that "Courts can make decisions, Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #14
If Trump fires Mueller, Mueller will successfully sue to get his job back nt marylandblue Jul 2017 #12
Sessions appointed Mueller, can't he fire him too? just asking... Stuart G Jul 2017 #13
Sessions actually did not hire Mueller, & that is a significant point. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #15
What if the Republicans do not go along with Schumer on the rehiring ? Stuart G Jul 2017 #16
I hear ya. Seems surreal, doesn't it? dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #19
The regulations state he can only be fired for "good cause." marylandblue Jul 2017 #18
Thought of this earlier MFM008 Jul 2017 #17

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
1. Trump needs to understand that nothing will save him/them
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:10 PM
Jul 2017

Eventually, justice will prevail and most of the people are young enough for the law to catch up to them

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
4. Perhaps you are right..the good guys sure got those behind Watergate...and
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:12 PM
Jul 2017

I never thought I would see Mitchel, Haldeman and company spend some time in the slammer..but they did.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
2. General Strike!
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:11 PM
Jul 2017

Your scenario simply cannot be tolerated by the American public. Bring the country to it's knees!

elleng

(130,895 posts)
10. 'The 1952 steel strike was a strike by the United Steelworkers of America against U.S. Steel
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:18 PM
Jul 2017

and nine other steelmakers. The strike was scheduled to begin on April 9, 1952, but President Harry S Truman nationalized the American steel industry hours before the workers walked out. The steel companies sued to regain control of their facilities. On June 2, 1952, in a landmark decision, the United States Supreme Court ruled in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U.S. 579 (1952), that the president lacked the authority to seize the steel mills. The Steelworkers struck to win a wage increase. The strike lasted 53 days, and ended on July 24, 1952, on essentially the same terms the union had proposed four months earlier.'>>>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_steel_strike

I was joking, actually, as such nationwide actions don't seem to be in this country's DNA.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
8. Remember, laws don't enforce themselves.
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:16 PM
Jul 2017

If Trump is going to be removed from office, actual people with actual power are going to have to do it (by following the law, we'd hope). Whether there are enough of those people with enough support is anybody's guess right now.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
14. Yes - I remember reading early on in this...this thing...that "Courts can make decisions,
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:31 PM
Jul 2017

sure - but they can't ENFORCE them."

thanks for your post, 442 (chilling as it is)...I'd say it's the #1 question on many people's minds, and has been for a while...

sigh

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. Sessions actually did not hire Mueller, & that is a significant point.
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:51 PM
Jul 2017

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed him, and is the one who can fire him.
It was written this way when they drew up the paperwork to hire Mueller as Special Counsel,, cause Rosenstein knew
Trump might try to fire Mueller too, and so he -Rosenstein - has publicly stated he will not fire Mueller, that Trump has to go thru him.
Leaves Sessions unable to perform one of his lapdog tricks.

Should there be someway that Mueller is fired, Senate Dems, specifically Schumer, has said Mueller can be re-hired via Congress, and would then be free to continue the case.

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
16. What if the Republicans do not go along with Schumer on the rehiring ?
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:56 PM
Jul 2017

Again just asking....anything can happen...I never thought Trump would be nominated, let alone elected. I never thought Nixon would resign, yet he did..

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
19. I hear ya. Seems surreal, doesn't it?
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:53 PM
Jul 2017

What the "good " guys are counting on is, since all US House members are up for re-election next Nov.,
the Republicans will not piss off the voters.
33 Senate seats are also up for re-election.

Right now, today, there are some Republicans in Congress who appear to be under investigation for
illegal campaign money from Russians ( McConnel is one) and/or collusion with Russians to rig the election.
Probably before I even finishing answering this, there is more info. coming out.

right now, it looks like Trump is connected to that meeting, no way he could have not known about it.
Kushner, Ivanka, Don Jr. and Eric Trump are already being investigated for money laundering, plus other crimes, and they CAN be charged by both state and Feds.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
18. The regulations state he can only be fired for "good cause."
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 11:21 PM
Jul 2017

That's a legal term used in labor law and is a common requirement in union contracts and civil service protection. It's the reason it takes years to fire bad teachers and you need a crateload of documentation to do it. Firing him based on a one-page memo ala Comey is not going to cut it.

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