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Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:31 PM Jul 2017

What's so important to GOP that they'd throw their country under the bus to achieve their agenda?

I just read this is a Slate article:
If nothing else, Republican behavior—the extent to which the party is still powering through a hyper-partisan agenda, even as evidence of something untoward mounts—is an implicit statement that foreign interference is an acceptable path to partisan gain. At the risk of cliché, it normalizes outside meddling in American democracy. And the 2016 election won’t even be the end of Russian interference in our elections. There is real potential for further, more damaging hacking aimed at often-obsolete local election infrastructure. Preventing this is of national concern and requires cooperation from both sides at all levels of government. It requires both parties to show a commitment to the ideals of American democracy.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/07/republicans_are_downplaying_russia_at_great_risk.html?wpsrc=newsletter_tis&sid=589dfd6ebcb59c58118b45d5

So when I read the above, I asked myself, what could be so important to them that they were willing to go this route in the first place, and for those who are not complicit, to keep making excuses? Just what is it they hope to gain? More money? More power?

I guess I am falling for the trap I so often warn people about: they live in a parallel universe and it doesn't work to apply my values and my logic to their universe because all the rules and all the values are different there.

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What's so important to GOP that they'd throw their country under the bus to achieve their agenda? (Original Post) Amaryllis Jul 2017 OP
Benjamins. klook Jul 2017 #1
Ding ding ding DeeDeeNY Jul 2017 #6
Unless the RNC was hacked too and the info that was taken is being held in reserve to keep the shraby Jul 2017 #2
How can I be so dumb never to have thought of that possibility?? pangaia Jul 2017 #5
The RNC was hacked too rufus dog Jul 2017 #15
Christofascist theocracy Thomas Hurt Jul 2017 #3
I would encourage all here to review Charles Koch's presidential platform back in 1980 Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #4
I know their long game goes back many years, but what is the purpose of their end game? Amaryllis Jul 2017 #8
More money and power for the wealthy. That's all. n/t Binkie The Clown Jul 2017 #7
Warren Buffet quote marylandblue Jul 2017 #9
Demographically, they know they are fucked. meadowlander Jul 2017 #10
+1 leftstreet Jul 2017 #16
The upper echelons of GOP power are involved in the Russian thing up to their necks. CrispyQ Jul 2017 #11
Power Turbineguy Jul 2017 #12
No gurlz allowd librechik Jul 2017 #13
💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰 WinkyDink Jul 2017 #14
Power. Control. Money. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #17
Every reply to this thread answers your question. Boomerproud Jul 2017 #18
The republicans will do anything workinclasszero Jul 2017 #19
Its about maintaining the illusion of White Male Supremacy. milestogo Jul 2017 #20

shraby

(21,946 posts)
2. Unless the RNC was hacked too and the info that was taken is being held in reserve to keep the
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:37 PM
Jul 2017

republican congresscritters in line. They would know they got hacked too, and as much as they denied it, I suspect they did.

That info would be blackmail material. No wonder they don't even peep at the transgressions by the white house.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
5. How can I be so dumb never to have thought of that possibility??
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:44 PM
Jul 2017

On the other hand, I don't think they really give a shit.. never have..
They want theirs.. That's how they think.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
15. The RNC was hacked too
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 10:38 PM
Jul 2017

thus the actions by King and Grassley. Watch who is supporting and you will know who they have dirt on.

Kucinich is on the list, Dershowitz, Greenwald, etc.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
4. I would encourage all here to review Charles Koch's presidential platform back in 1980
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:44 PM
Jul 2017

If you read that platform, especially in light of Trump's proposed "budgets", its crystal clear what the GOP end game is here. The GOP are puppets of the Koch's and many other wealthy puppet masters. Their goal is to undo every single progressive advancement of the 20th Century from Teddy Roosevelt's regulations and national parks, to the new deal, the great society and the ACA. That is their goal and they're winning behind the scenes thanks to the ridiculous joke of a president that's keeping the focus of the nation on his corruption and outrageous antics while they're robbing us blind behind the scenes.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
8. I know their long game goes back many years, but what is the purpose of their end game?
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:54 PM
Jul 2017

What's the why of it? It has to be more than money because it's such a long game. What do they gain from undoing every progressive advancement?

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
9. Warren Buffet quote
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 08:01 PM
Jul 2017

"There is a class warfare in this country and my class is winning."

That says it all.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
10. Demographically, they know they are fucked.
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 08:02 PM
Jul 2017

It's been 20 years since they had the numbers to win without cheating.

And the more the country progresses to the left and becomes less religious, better educated and more tolerant and diverse, the more desperate they will be to rewrite the rules of the game so that they can stay in power.

What's at stake is the last few drips of easy profit before climate change and peak oil force a radical restructuring of the global economy. They also know that globalisation is inevitable and they want it to be on their terms - authoritarian-based Wild West capitalism.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
11. The upper echelons of GOP power are involved in the Russian thing up to their necks.
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 08:45 PM
Jul 2017

McConnell, Ryan, Pence, some state govs, a whole slew of GOP deplorables. They know if they go after the Con, he will fink on all of them. Plus maybe they can pass their tax reform agenda in all this chaos & maybe, just maybe, if the IC doesn't act quickly enough, they can actually put more malfeasance into our electoral process, thus guaranteeing one party rule. It could happen. I know Watergate took two years, but we don't have two years. The Con is taking a wreaking ball to our institutions.

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
18. Every reply to this thread answers your question.
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 10:44 PM
Jul 2017

Power (if they don't have it-someone else will).
Greed (wringing every last drop of resources available for themselves).
A brainwashed electorate that has been programmed to believe that unchecked capitalism=freedom.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. The republicans will do anything
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 10:45 PM
Jul 2017

To destroy the safety net in this country and give all the billions of dollars keeping millions of American men woman and children alive to the 1%.

Before this last election I didn't think they would actively commit treason with a hostile foreign dictator to accomplish this evil deed but I now see that the traitorous republican filth will even go that far.

And every republican/conservative/religious right voter with damn few exceptions are backing Trump's treason 1000%!

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
20. Its about maintaining the illusion of White Male Supremacy.
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 10:50 PM
Jul 2017

Which is not about what they want, its about who they hate: blacks, Muslims, women, and more...

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