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Kaleva

(36,299 posts)
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:42 AM Jul 2017

Rasmussen is showing a decline in those who strongly approve of Trump's performance.

As of yesterday, it's at 26%. It was hovering around 40% at the beginning of his presidency. On the opposite side, there's been a steady increase since January in percentage of likely voters who strongly disapprove of Trump's performance. As of yesterday, it's at 49%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jul20

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Rasmussen is showing a decline in those who strongly approve of Trump's performance. (Original Post) Kaleva Jul 2017 OP
Considering how 'right' skewed Razzie is... WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #1
Rasmussen.. Scoopster Jul 2017 #2
Yes, they have but they can only tweak so much & remain relevant... WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #11
When the dirty money laundering comes out Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #3
I think they won't care as long as it has nothing to do with Ilsa Jul 2017 #4
Think it raises a very interesting point - what would it take? My inlaws are all Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #6
Businessmen like trump were part of the problem Ilsa Jul 2017 #10
Oh I agree - and for Trump, we have only seen what's public information now and it already Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #16
"Low information" and bad information. thucythucy Jul 2017 #13
And their "handlers" know that they won't actually research anything. That they will read their Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #17
Your inlaws will require 25% unemployment and general economic collapse (see KingCharlemagne Jul 2017 #15
That is probably true - it would have to hit people they know work hard and want Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #18
I've Read Somewhere SDJay Jul 2017 #19
That's a good one ! But, unless they had a tape of him telling them to, can't see them believing? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #20
True. SDJay Jul 2017 #24
I've read that it's even worse than that BlueStateBlue Jul 2017 #21
A big portion of those fundies don't mind abortion at all in Ilsa Jul 2017 #27
These things are nonlinear, and what sets off the rush for the exits is unpredictable alcibiades_mystery Jul 2017 #8
As long as Red Don doesn't hug a brown skinned person the deplorable wont give a damn uponit7771 Jul 2017 #28
I'm sticking with 22% as the bottom for Trump JustAnotherGen Jul 2017 #5
How'd you come up with 22? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #7
February 2016 - Poll of his supporters JustAnotherGen Jul 2017 #25
Close, Nixon was 24% after he basically admitted to a crime. Trumps 12% away from that uponit7771 Jul 2017 #29
Public opinion is slow to move but quick to finish bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #9
the support of trump is getting to the hardcore base support numbers now beachbum bob Jul 2017 #12
The bottom is low Johnny2X2X Jul 2017 #14
Maybe the hard core ones have shifted to another category we haven't seen Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #22
Glad trump's numbers are sinking. gademocrat7 Jul 2017 #23
Could it be because they think he hasn't done enough awesomerwb1 Jul 2017 #26

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
1. Considering how 'right' skewed Razzie is...
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:56 AM
Jul 2017

this is probably even worse than they show.

If he's losing Rasmussen he's darn near dead, he just doesn't know it yet.

Scoopster

(423 posts)
2. Rasmussen..
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:03 AM
Jul 2017

They literally bend over backwards skewing their polls just to keep him above 40% approval. They've been doing it for GOP candidates for decades.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
11. Yes, they have but they can only tweak so much & remain relevant...
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:15 AM
Jul 2017

When enough on the right get ticked off it becomes harder to skew the data.... may it soon become impossible.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
4. I think they won't care as long as it has nothing to do with
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:16 AM
Jul 2017

Drugs or child prostitution. If it was a Dem laundering dirty oil money, they'd be hysterical.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
6. Think it raises a very interesting point - what would it take? My inlaws are all
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:43 AM
Jul 2017

wingnuts. They have already accepted behaviors that they would have been absolutely apoplectic about had a Democrat done any of it.

His supporters are being programmed to think most of it is a lie. Or programmed to believe that 'boys will be boys' (his lewd remarks) and 'you don't understand - this is how a high-powered business man acts.' (playing the tax and judicial systems and making big sleazy deals). And 'Trump is trying to buck the system and everyone in power is against him now.'

So the ones who are orchestrating it all - know that these people are low information people and can be manipulated to think a certain way.

I really can't think of much, short of a tape where he claimed he murdered someone that might do it. If I can think of my inlaws and think about what bothers them most - its that someone could get something for nothing - like unemployment - like welfare - like cheaper healthcare. But, can't see how that could translate to Trump

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
10. Businessmen like trump were part of the problem
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:57 AM
Jul 2017

in the banking messes I worked on in the 1980s and '90s. They wanted 100% financing, didn't want to pay up on their personal guarantees, then expected another bank to take them on as borrowers. They loved watching their losses socialized, IOW, getting something for nothing.

Trump wasn't an honest player in the system.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
16. Oh I agree - and for Trump, we have only seen what's public information now and it already
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:27 AM
Jul 2017

stinks to high heaven. But, from what I have seen, being now stuck in a very red place is that these people don't ever study up on anything - it's like not in their DNA or something. I have never heard anyone ever discuss a subject, analyze situations, take in information. I don't know if it's intellectual laziness or low intellectual capacity. Incredibly boring to be around.

thucythucy

(8,050 posts)
13. "Low information" and bad information.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jul 2017

Yesterday at the supermarket checkout I saw the National Inquirer (owned by a Trump crony), something like "Hillary Framed the Trump Family!"

I know people will believe this is a bona fide story, and believe it to the day they die.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. And their "handlers" know that they won't actually research anything. That they will read their
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:29 AM
Jul 2017

stories - sensationalized and written on a third grade level - and that will be the end of it. It's like they prey on these people to make money and it works

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
15. Your inlaws will require 25% unemployment and general economic collapse (see
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:18 AM
Jul 2017

January 1933) to shake them out of their stupor. Before we get to that point, Trump will dismantle the BLS (keeper of unbiased unemployment statistics), so they may never even realize how bad it really is.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
18. That is probably true - it would have to hit people they know work hard and want
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:36 AM
Jul 2017

desperately to work.

Hypocrisy abounds. To hell with people who get welfare or can't afford insurance (while they rake in their own generous government pensions and benefit from their high quality insurance that they only have because they worked for the National Guard).

And electrocute those people trying to sneak into our country...while they work to get their own beloved illegal ranch workers green cards.

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
19. I've Read Somewhere
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:39 AM
Jul 2017

about allegations that Dump paid women off to have abortions. If that turns out to be true, that would be one thing that would turn some of the fundies against him. That's the biggest no-no out there for the religious right.

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
24. True.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:07 AM
Jul 2017

Even with the tape, they'd probably just scream, "FAKE NEWS! TAPE IS DOCTORED!" and still refuse to believe it. That's the problem with zealots: facts don't matter. They're going to believe what they want to believe no matter what.

BlueStateBlue

(517 posts)
21. I've read that it's even worse than that
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:56 AM
Jul 2017

After gang raping young women (girls?) with his buddies, they literally threw cash on top of them and said 'Here. Go get an abortion if you get pregnant."

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
27. A big portion of those fundies don't mind abortion at all in
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 02:25 PM
Jul 2017
those circumstances. Remember, my abortion is different from yours! I have a good reason have one. You have abortions because you're a careless slut!
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
8. These things are nonlinear, and what sets off the rush for the exits is unpredictable
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:47 AM
Jul 2017

Trump, for all the articles stating that his supporters still love him, is a fad. He's a fidget spinner.

When the bottom falls out, and it will, it will be fast, and all at once. He's pretty much pushing the margin of deep unpopularity now.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
25. February 2016 - Poll of his supporters
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:23 AM
Jul 2017

That's the number of his supporters polled that believed setting the slaves free was a bad idea.

Those are the die hard 'don't like the black, brown, Asian, middle eastern, homosexual, transgender, Jewish, Muslim, Roman Catholic' Americans.

They love their flag, their guns, their Jesus, and their white pride.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
12. the support of trump is getting to the hardcore base support numbers now
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jul 2017

and once overall approval hits low 30's, GOP will have some decisions to make before the 2018 democratic tidal wave

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
14. The bottom is low
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jul 2017

I think people overestimate the number of his voters that are totally gone. His floor is 15% at highest. Could be lower. He's losing his supporters quickly.

And here's the thing, like a scorned lover, these people who are "waked up" will turn on him vigorously. Some of the worst of them can be activists against Trump if we can reach them.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
22. Maybe the hard core ones have shifted to another category we haven't seen
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:59 AM
Jul 2017

in politics to the extent it is today - those who think he's a slim bag - but are just staying silent about him and his antics. They are not "for" him but for his original campaign ideas now. I never hear anyone rave about how great he is - except for maybe Spicer and Huckabee

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
26. Could it be because they think he hasn't done enough
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jul 2017

deportation of "brown" people? +

He hasn't ended DACA? +

He hasn't built the wall? +

Plus he hasn't been able to repeal Obamacare...yet?

Achieve one of the above and I think his numbers will normalize (or be normalized by Rasmussen).

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