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backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:05 PM Jul 2012

So if Romney is forced to withdraw over that felony thing... Who would replace him?

Presumably, his delegates at the RNC get released, which means it's gonna be a convention floor fight, and they'll pick anyone they want.

Who would they pick? Santorum? Perry? Cain? Paul?

This could be fun to watch...

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So if Romney is forced to withdraw over that felony thing... Who would replace him? (Original Post) backscatter712 Jul 2012 OP
Jeb Bush KurtNYC Jul 2012 #1
I don't think he'll take the fall flamingdem Jul 2012 #2
I agree, Jeb wants no part of this clusterfuck. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #10
Jeb Bush is CORRECT! Firebrand Gary Jul 2012 #13
The Bush name is political poison XemaSab Jul 2012 #15
50 Words For No... dogknob Jul 2012 #23
:D it's true justabob Jul 2012 #36
Hell yes! Jeb Bush will be the great champion....... wandy Jul 2012 #33
If they need to quickly go to someone who has a national KurtNYC Jul 2012 #58
Obama will run unopposed. randome Jul 2012 #3
No, they'll bring someone forward, even if he/she is just a sacrificial lamb... backscatter712 Jul 2012 #4
or worse - PALIN???? NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! cbdo2007 Jul 2012 #5
If there is any sort of command structure in the GOP... randome Jul 2012 #9
The ROVE strategy is to get the Senate, so we must be careful here.. flamingdem Jul 2012 #18
No strategy is evident because nobody decided Romney was going to run. randome Jul 2012 #24
We can't have Obama go unopposed. It would hurt us. LiberalFighter Jul 2012 #50
Aw, geeeeez --- madamesilverspurs Jul 2012 #6
She's firing up her Markov chain generator! n/t backscatter712 Jul 2012 #8
Vermin Supreme will run third line... Earth_First Jul 2012 #7
I was devastated when V.S. withdrew from the race. mysuzuki2 Jul 2012 #14
He withdrew from the race!? Fire Walk With Me Jul 2012 #55
Well I thought so but with V.S. you never can tell! mysuzuki2 Jul 2012 #60
Wasn't Mr. Supreme running for the Democratic nomination this year? thelordofhell Jul 2012 #31
You can bet that the 'pubs are thinking about this. panader0 Jul 2012 #11
If they were capable of strategic thinking, Romney would have been vetted. randome Jul 2012 #12
Forced to withdraw over the felony thing? Get serious, he'll never withdraw. FSogol Jul 2012 #16
Some other felon. gkhouston Jul 2012 #17
Ron Paul is still in the race. nt Snotcicles Jul 2012 #19
And I believe that others have simply Sherman A1 Jul 2012 #29
One of these other, fine Republican'ts: DCKit Jul 2012 #20
the worst (or best) they could do is have a brokered convention and replace him with their guy librechik Jul 2012 #21
Sarah Palin Taverner Jul 2012 #22
One of the Koch brothers, since they'll run the show anyway Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #25
He won't withdraw. He feels he is entitled to the nomination and the presidency GarroHorus Jul 2012 #26
Just ask Ann "It's our turn" Romney pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #30
they have been so sloppy Dalai_1 Jul 2012 #27
Rick Scrotum will break out the sweater vests Rambis Jul 2012 #28
Hopefully, the republicans will tear themselves apart trying to decide! - n/t Jim__ Jul 2012 #32
Felony Thing? SoCalMusicLover Jul 2012 #34
Google is your friend... backscatter712 Jul 2012 #42
I don't think Google helps those... LondonReign2 Jul 2012 #48
I have to admit that, while I have heard that Romney has lied avebury Jul 2012 #35
Cause if his tax returns show he took some type of deduction from his management of Bain after uponit7771 Jul 2012 #37
The alleged felony would be perjury. Igel Jul 2012 #49
I laugh at this notion mikeysnot Jul 2012 #38
You're joking, right? He will NEVER be prosecuted. It will never even be investigated. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #39
Santorum, Newt and Paul hold all the other votes. Ganja Ninja Jul 2012 #40
Former Gov Geopge Pataki. CK_John Jul 2012 #41
I think next in line is VP nominee rufus dog Jul 2012 #43
HUCKABEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! AngryAmish Jul 2012 #44
Won't happen. But if it did, the logical guess is the one with the next highest number of delegates RZM Jul 2012 #45
If this happened, a very big if to be sure, hifiguy Jul 2012 #46
I'm guessing a brokered convention would end up with someone who didn't run at all hughee99 Jul 2012 #47
Wes Clark was not a Republican most of his life. Fawke Em Jul 2012 #59
Won't ever happen. The SEC will never launch an investigation and the MSM chelsea0011 Jul 2012 #51
I bet Maddow will say Ron Paul. I think he has alot of delegates on his side. southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #52
Jeb Bush with Lieberman as his VP running mate. Lieberman already has experience in such a position. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #53
freepers are hoping this will happen!! grasswire Jul 2012 #54
A used wad of toilet paper.... Aviation Pro Jul 2012 #56
Sideshow Bob. Fire Walk With Me Jul 2012 #57
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
10. I agree, Jeb wants no part of this clusterfuck.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:14 PM
Jul 2012

My guess is they would either go with Newt, who is popular with the teabagging crowd, or let the Paulbots take the blame for a blowout loss, thus putting them permanently out of the picture.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
13. Jeb Bush is CORRECT!
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:19 PM
Jul 2012

Jeb Bush shared his regrets of not running for president in 2012 in a recent interview. "This was probably my time," Bush told CBS News in an interview to air Thursday morning. "There's a window of opportunity, in life, and for all sorts of reasons."

Jeb Bush, The younger brother of President George W. Bush and the son of President George H.W. Bush, added he probably would not have won in 2012: "Although I don't know, given what I believe and how I believe it, I'm not sure I would have been successful as a candidate, either... These are different times than just six years ago, when I last ran, or even longer than that."

Fox News reports:
MIAMI -- Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has said in an interview that he probably should have run for president in 2012.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
15. The Bush name is political poison
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:22 PM
Jul 2012

Freakin' Kate Bush could run and not get elected because of her name.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
36. :D it's true
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:06 PM
Jul 2012

No one is ready for another Bush candidacy.

I don't think there are many people who would want to be any part of this fubar GOP nomination anymore. The Romney campaign has to be one of the worst in history.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
33. Hell yes! Jeb Bush will be the great champion.......
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:48 PM
Jul 2012

The repugs will continue to smear Obama. While this is going on Romney will be dragged through the mud, smeared and on and on untill...........

Late in the game, Jeb Bush will arise, unsullied, as the great champion. Jeb could slaughter a live puppy and eat a bat on the convention floor but it just won't matter.
There won't be a lot of time to say anything about it.
And the champion will have come to the rescue.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
58. If they need to quickly go to someone who has a national
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 05:52 PM
Jul 2012

political machine, can steal elections and can raise cash: Bush.

(yuck)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. Obama will run unopposed.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:07 PM
Jul 2012

The GOP would not be able to get over the prospect of deliberately wasting precious money.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
4. No, they'll bring someone forward, even if he/she is just a sacrificial lamb...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:09 PM
Jul 2012

Though if they were just going for a sacrifical lamb, they'd probably pick one that was especially crazy. Bachmann, perhaps?

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
5. or worse - PALIN???? NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:11 PM
Jul 2012

haha, no, they'll pick someone respectable cause they'll want to play it as safe as possible. Hell, maybe even McCain would run again.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. If there is any sort of command structure in the GOP...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:13 PM
Jul 2012

...and I think the primary season proved there is not, but assume there is. Why would they run someone especially crazy who would disillusion the flock even more than they already are? Why, at this late date, would they pour millions of dollars into a credible candidate who can't win?

If Romney drops out, my bet is still that the GOP will cut their losses and regroup.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
18. The ROVE strategy is to get the Senate, so we must be careful here..
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:24 PM
Jul 2012

They know Romney is a loser but if they can control congress they'll control Obama

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
24. No strategy is evident because nobody decided Romney was going to run.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:31 PM
Jul 2012

Don't you understand? This is like when Rome fell. It wasn't truly realized that the empire was no more until somebody noticed cows grazing on the lawn of the capital.

Sure, they want the Senate and the House and we should do everything we can to prevent that from happening.

But 'strategy'? I see only embers of evidence that this exists in the GOP today.

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
14. I was devastated when V.S. withdrew from the race.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:20 PM
Jul 2012

Anyone with the guts to wear a rubber boot on his head in public can certainly stand up to Iran. Or at least to Lichtenstein and San Marino.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. If they were capable of strategic thinking, Romney would have been vetted.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:19 PM
Jul 2012

There is nobody home in the GOP cavern.

FSogol

(45,481 posts)
16. Forced to withdraw over the felony thing? Get serious, he'll never withdraw.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:22 PM
Jul 2012

Any AG that picked up the case would get hit with allegations of playing politics. Romney won't be charged with any felonies.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
29. And I believe that others have simply
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:37 PM
Jul 2012

suspended their campaigns as opposed to an actually withdrawing from the race.

Could prove to be interesting.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
21. the worst (or best) they could do is have a brokered convention and replace him with their guy
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:27 PM
Jul 2012

they got nobody, so I nominate Rush.

Romney will get a do-over--he won't have to pay for this "gaffe"

Dalai_1

(1,301 posts)
27. they have been so sloppy
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:36 PM
Jul 2012

in their handling of romney it is almost as if they planned all along to
nominate someone else ....surely to goodness they do not think
romney could survive the debates with President Obama.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
34. Felony Thing?
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:55 PM
Jul 2012

What are you guys speculating about now?

So, which is it? You guys took too many drugs this morning, or it's just a slow news day?

OK....let me try one. If Romney gets kidnapped by aliens, who will replace him?

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
48. I don't think Google helps those...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 04:11 PM
Jul 2012

...who already know the answer to their question, but are instead poo-pooing the idea.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
35. I have to admit that, while I have heard that Romney has lied
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:00 PM
Jul 2012

about various things I am not sure what the felony thing is so could someone please explain to this dimwit?

And what are the chances that Romney would actually be held accountable for any felony thing when so many politicians have done so with no consequences (Bush Jr, Cheney, and so on just to name a couple).

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
37. Cause if his tax returns show he took some type of deduction from his management of Bain after
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:08 PM
Jul 2012

...99 then he was truly managing it and not at stand off like he said.

He can't take tax benefits from managing something he told the SEC he wasn't managing..

This is no joke...either way he's not going to be doing good...

Igel

(35,300 posts)
49. The alleged felony would be perjury.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 04:30 PM
Jul 2012

He said in Federal financial disclosure forms in early 1999 that he had no operational control over Bain. To lie on them is to commit a felony. But if you look back at what Romney declared under oath, it's strange: He limits his involvement in Bain in the way that he's consistently said, but doesn't rule out other kinds of involvement. (Consistent with being listed on Bain SEC filings for a while for some legal reasons, but consistent with his claims for the last 13 years.)

Income's not at issue. I presume he'd have paid the same on investment or "earned" income from Bain, since they'd have been taxed at the same rate and reported to the IRS (if not the latter, than Bain's also on the hook for some serious fines).

The SEC filings, as far as I can tell, also aren't a perjury issue, per se, for Romney. Signed by Nunnelly, if they're false then Nunnelly committed perjury.

What's left is trying to connect the listing of Romney as CEO and managing director to his disclosure form from 1999. He could defend himself by making clear exactly what legal nicety led his name to continue to be listed as CEO if he had no operational involvement in the company; attackers are left with nothing but innuendo, unless they can show that being listed as CEO necessitates his operational involvement. Romney's not said; attackers have dealt with fuzzy generalizations. (Having seen a "CEO" in the position of having no operational involvement in the "company" yet listed on legal forms in that position, I know the fuzzy generalizations don't provide a valid argument. Just a suggestive one.)Bain, while keeping some sort of interest (a continued return on my original

A thought: If he was not operationally involved, and was the only person who could replace himself as CEO, wouldn't replacing himself with somebody else be operational involvement? What would I do in that situation, I wonder. Probably let things slide--the managing directors had authority, I'd guess, to handle pretty much everything, if not a limited power of attorney ceding authority would do the trick. Then I'd try to find a way to sell my investment in investment, perhaps). That might require waiting until my active investments were all liquidated, but would certainly mean I'd wait until somebody came along to buy me out on favorable terms. That might take a week. It might take a decade. And I might not try all that hard.

Details.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
39. You're joking, right? He will NEVER be prosecuted. It will never even be investigated.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jul 2012

You seem to think DOJ is on our side.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
40. Santorum, Newt and Paul hold all the other votes.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jul 2012

Someone will be bought off and Jeb will get the nomination. My guess is Santorum will be Jeb's running mate.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
43. I think next in line is VP nominee
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:52 PM
Jul 2012

Since he hasn't named anyone they have to fall back to Palin.

That seems fair to me.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
45. Won't happen. But if it did, the logical guess is the one with the next highest number of delegates
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:54 PM
Jul 2012

So it would probably be Santorum.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
46. If this happened, a very big if to be sure,
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:57 PM
Jul 2012

I have zero doubt that Griftin' Princess Dumbass would descend out of Moose Country like a cloud of locusts. The inbred tealiban dimwits love her and the money people in the party know that they are going to lose this time around anyway, especially if Mittwit implodes. The Pier Six brawl between Princess D, Santorum and the Gingrinch would be more fun to watch than a barrel of half-witted monkeys.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
47. I'm guessing a brokered convention would end up with someone who didn't run at all
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jul 2012

in the primary. It will give us all far less time to dig up the dirt on them. My guess would be if they lose their nominee over financial scandal, they'd go with someone they consider to be "of great integrity" and likely not someone who necessarily holds the views of the current repuke party. I'm thinking Fred Thompson, Colin Powell, or for a shocker... Wesley Clark who, as I understand it, was a repuke for most of his life until recently.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
59. Wes Clark was not a Republican most of his life.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 06:28 PM
Jul 2012

He was pretty solidly independent, voting for both Republicans and Democrats.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
51. Won't ever happen. The SEC will never launch an investigation and the MSM
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 04:59 PM
Jul 2012

will be on to something else Monday. They want Romney to win.

Aviation Pro

(12,164 posts)
56. A used wad of toilet paper....
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 05:32 PM
Jul 2012

...would be my guess since it emulates the entire clown car of potential replacements.

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