John McCain

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I will keep with my moral code and not wish poor health or death on my adversaries but John McCain is a deeply cynical man. It brings to mind Ralph Waldo Emerson quote that " the the louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons."

McCain is a man with fatal brain cancer that voted to begin a process that can deprive millions of vital health care. McCain is a man who brays about the wrongness of hyperpartisanship and tribalism and votes for a misbegotten bill that is the product of hyperpartisansip and tribalism.

Party loyalty demands a lot. It demanded John McCain's soul.


Shame.

If I can take consolation in anything I never bought his maverick shtick, never .

[Hieronymus]

1. I never bought it either.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. A lot of well intentioned but gullible liberals did, at first.

That was the whole point of his exercise in subterfuge.

[SharonClark]

17. Yes, some of my local Dems were falling all over themselves to praise this man on facebook

That was before his vote to repeal so now I'm sure they are all 'disappointed' with him. Dems don't need republican 'heroes', we have our own.

When was the last time the repugs and the main stream media, which continues to promote this smarmy hypocrite, called a Dem a hero? I'm talking to you, Brian Williams, you obsequious toady.

[Scarsdale]

22. Never fell for this fraud.

The way he treated his first wife, threw her over for a rich airhead. Other politicians helped pay her medical bills, and expenses. McCain is a "little man" in more ways than just stature.

[Gabi Hayes]

2. Same. As me

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9373777

[Raven]

4. Last night in his speech

he vowed not to vote for the bill in its current form then, just hours later, he voted for it. Sick or well, the man is a fraud.

[Gabi Hayes]

5. Like the vow he took to his 1st wife

[RestoreAmerica2020]

32. He cut a deal, sold his soul to the devil ....may he lose his preexisting health insurance

...coverage and unlimited cap on health cost. One would think that after his diagnosis, future health issues and the realization of the cost of treatment, after being you have brain cancer ...he'd have an Epiphany....." thank you God, if I didnt have health insurance: I would die within a month--maybe days; now it's a preexisting condition so no-one would cover my treatment...I would be a dead man walking! .....I get it now no insurance .....death! Oh my god is this what the dems have been screaming about? Talking non stop about how health insurance is a right for all Americans? Dearwhitejesus I get it now....gee if I didn't have health insurance to cover expensive treatments to save my precious life, then I would have file bankruptcy, I'd have take leave from my job because I'm so sick so I'd lose my home, possible several homes and cars, other worldly possessions. So dear God, if it were not for having the best health insurance in America, the Affordable Care. Act, Obamacare ....thank you God, thank you Obama, if not for that..right now today I would be poor and homeless! Thank you God for giving me one more day to fight for the right of every single Americans' right to have free (or at minimum insurance like mine) healthcare insurance .....but wait (altruistic epiphany is interrupted, oops it was just the bright hospital lights not message from God to be humble, helpful, have empathy. )

.... I'm rich.! White! Thank you white Lord, I'm a rich-white male living in white- apartheid America--no need to worry. Those damn poor people are poor cuz they want to be poor! All those poor people should have prepared planned, saved, married rich besides I was just offered a nice little bonus of to vote yes to repeal. I know it looks bad changing my mind like that, but I need to back my whitekkkbuddies, you know make America white again, oops...great again. l want my legacy to be, that I motivated the American people, to pick themselves up by their boot straps DAMNIT; work two three jobs for minimum wage; save for retirement, health insurance by not throwing away their money by buying those fancy phones or lottery tickets. Those lazy poor brown and black people if they only work harder...they're just draining our country, and then, those immigrants and refugees also brown and black we need to sendthemback from where they came; stop all immigration of bronwblack people, and non Christian people......So by my voting yes to repeal, I'm helping them learn the value white privileged.

[COLGATE4]

6. John has always been a legend in his own mind.

He couldn't get there fast enough to lap up the applause as the wounded warrior strode into the Senate for one last vote to help his party out. Bastard.

[Pachamama]

7. I used to believe in Karma - no longer

I used to worry if I wished ill on a person or did bad on a person, that the "bad karma" would come at me. Likewise that all good deeds and actions would be rewarded with good.

Now I believe that there is good and there is evil and some shades in between. That our world and human nature is about the constant struggle between these two forces. Think Star Wars and the "Force" - the dark side vs those that are the Jedis and supporters of the Jedi. That is a battle of choices and sometimes faced with the choice, that people will cross to the dark side and some that are so consumed by it that they will never return.

I just cannot on my mind accept that all the bad things that happen to people was because they had "bad karma". Or that when things are going well for really awful people who do awful things that they have "good karma"....or that I have to just believe that eventually "karma" will catch up with them.

No, I believe good forces have been in a constant battle with evil and that a lot of good people had to die or suffer in those battles. Hitler didn't die because his bad karma caught up with him. He died because the forces of good caught up with him and persisted. But when Hitler was gone and the 3rd Reich ended, the evil didn't end. It just retreated to appear for another day. Like the Ebola Virus that it appears to disappear, but it's dormant until it regathering strength can live to fight again.

That all said - I have no problem then saying that although I never agreed the vast majority of McCains career with his positions, I did not wish him ill or judge him. But he had a choice of which side to go to. And he chose the dark side. And I have no problem stating as someone who knows that so many will suffer and die because of his choice for evil, that I as a force for good battling evil hope that he suffers incredible immense pain and that if there is an afterlife and eternal damnation and hell, that he ends up there.

I am not worried one bit that "karma" will get me as a result of me having these thoughts and desires. I am on the side of forces for good, the Jedi's and I have no problem if that involves fighting the evil and that they are destroyed and even suffer.

Suffer painfully John McCain and eternal suffering in hell and damnation.

[Scarsdale]

23. I am in agreement with you.

The relatives of the MIA's that he stopped the searches for, I am sure would agree. Bastard of the worst kind. Only got where he is because of his father and grandfather, plus his father-in-law's $$$. These gop hate President Obama so much, yet there is not a single one who has the intelligence, CLASS, stature and admiration that he does. He is welcome ANYWHERE in the world (except Russia, of course) tRump is afraid to go unless paid crowds are brought in to cheer him. Same with Jimmy Carter, much admired. Strange that the only admired former presidents are all DEMOCRATIC ones, or is it??

[Docreed2003]

8. You can never go wrong with compassion, my friend...

As my dear Irish grandmother used to say, "A leopard doesn't change his spots". McCain has always been a dick. Frankly, I will never forgive him for the way he treated families of POW/MIA veterans in the 80's, there's video online. All that being said, don't apologize for your compassion, that's one of the tenants of our faith. Keep on being you my friend!

[groundloop]

15. It's just extremely difficult to feel compassion in certain circumstances

Like when someone who's fairly well off and has access to the best healthcare available votes to deny even basic healthcare to millions who are less fortunate. In my opinion McCain wasn't voting for anything he strongly believed in but rather was simply seeking the spotlight one last time. It's going to be pretty damned difficult for me to feel anything for the man other than disgust.

[Docreed2003]

33. Oh I get that...and I'm right there with you...

In fact, "disgust" is the nicest thing I could say about McCain's actions. My point was more of a personal note to DSB who caught a ton of crap last week for espousing compassion to McCain. All that said, fuck every last one of these assholes for screwing Americans at the expense of their coporate overlords!

[PJMcK]

9. Fuck John McCain (n/t)

[flibbitygiblets]

11. Have to agree. Perhaps dementia, or brain cancer causes cognitive dissonance?

Otherwise all I can say is there's a special place in hell for someone whose life is saved by healthcare paid for by taxpayer money,

who then votes to remove the same for millions of others.

Shame.

[Scarsdale]

24. Pay back

This is lumpy little Johnnie's revenge for not voting him into the WH. He never deserved it, but hey, it was his turn!!

[Guilded Lilly]

10. While ANY of the soulless Republican jerks can claim to be

the deciding vote to killing millions of Americans, the way that MCCain glorified himself with his drama queen entrance and staged patriotic scolding of his fellow murdering thugs locked his place in political history as the biggest grand standing, two-faced shit of his modern party of inhumanity.

[brush]

12. You nailed McCain to a tee.

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"Party loyalty demands a lot. It demanded John McCain's soul."

And McCain gave it willingly in exchange for a last standing "O" of fake adulation.

[Scarsdale]

26. Here is a thought

maybe he HAD to get his flabby little arse in for the vote, under threat of exposing his military and medical records? He has managed to keep those under lock and key for many years. Strangely, a real HERO would proudly expose his military records, wouldn't they? Maybe "Songbird McCain" was not such a hero after all.

[brush]

29. You're right. It's been reported that he "broke" in captivity.

But IMO no one would bring that up because his career is over now.

He's done.

His fight against cancer is just beginning. Even if he lasts thru this term, even Arizona is not going to re-elect a brain cancer suffered to the Senate, especially one in need of healthcare who votes to take it away.

[watoos]

13. Just some food for thought but

I'm afraid my mother had similar brain cancer and her early symptoms were being confused, like sending 3 Christmas cards to the same person.
I watched McCain do that Senate hearing where if he wasn't drunk or drugged up, he has the same symptoms as my mom had.
I don't wish McCain's situation on anyone, but I'm afraid he is going to keep getting more and more confused, just like my mom did.

[Honeycombe8]

14. He just voted to have a debate on it, right? He didn't vote for a replacement.

All Republicans, as far as I know, are FOR repeal of Obamacare, aren't they? It's the replacement, or whether there should be one, that is the sticky point.

Oh, wait. I take that back. They had a quickie vote last night on the horrible replacement, didn't they? I forgot. And he did vote for the replacement. (I'm not a morning person)

These things are moving so quickly.

[groundloop]

18. They'll end up repealing the ACA with nothing whatsoever to replace it with

45* will see to that since his entire existence is driven by hatred of President Obama. He, nor his fellow repukes, give a flying fuck about Americans.

[Honeycombe8]

19. +1. nt

[n2doc]

16. He replies:

[SDJay]

20. I Tend To Separate Things

His POW misery was one part of his life, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone, ever.

Since he got into politics, though:

Keating 5
Fake Maverick shtick
Slurping Dubya in 08 after Rove did horrible things to him in 2000
Sarah Fucking Palin - the template for Dump
Terrible things said about President Obama

And to top it all off, this.

As a person, I wish him well. As an American, I respect and honor what he went through.

As a politician, he can go fuck himself.

[brush]

31. Totally in agreement with your last sentence.

[unblock]

21. mclame: maverick when it didn't matter, loyalist when it did.

he always took his "maverick" positions on issues when the republicans were either always going to win or always going to lose.

when the party needed his vote, he was always there for his party.

[Gamecock Lefty]

25. Look at what he DOES, not what he SAYS!

Screw him.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

27. So few so hard

[Scruffy1]

28. i have long suspected he is the Manchurian Candidate.

I think his handlers have a something big on him that would ruin his only claim to fame as being a war hero. Same with Graham.

[nikibatts]

30. May he go down in infamy.