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DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 05:15 PM Jul 2017

Transgender airman: "I would like to see them try to kick me out of my military"


After President Trump’s surprise announcement Wednesday barring transgender people from serving “in any capacity“ in the military, one prominent transgender airman said he’s more determined than ever to continue serving in the Air Force.

“I would like to see them try to kick me out of my military,” Staff Sgt. Logan Ireland said in an interview with Air Force Times. “I would challenge them [in court]. You are not going to deny me my right to serve my country when I am fully qualified and able and willing to give my life.”

Other transgender service members expressed the same determination to stay in uniform in interviews with Military Times.

“I will continue to report for duty in the uniform of the day until I am forced to receive my DD214” discharge papers, said Sgt. Jack Schuler a transgender man and Army reservist who is a chemical operations specialist. He previously served in the Marine Corps.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2017/07/26/transgender-airman-i-would-like-to-see-them-try-to-kick-me-out-of-my-military/
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Transgender airman: "I would like to see them try to kick me out of my military" (Original Post) DesertRat Jul 2017 OP
I salute every one of these service members!!!! Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #1
Hey Trumpy--go for it--fire this personto his face. You coward! riversedge Jul 2017 #2
I'd love to see him invite some of this service members to the WH DesertRat Jul 2017 #3
I think this is going to backfire on Drumpf in a big way mcar Jul 2017 #4
This is what Hillary meant by STRONGER TOGETHER. DesertRat Jul 2017 #10
makes the message resonate doesn't it. JHan Jul 2017 #16
Now there is someone who is truly making America great! izzybella Jul 2017 #5
Yes, he is! DesertRat Jul 2017 #9
Trump won't do it himself..that is why we have lackies dembotoz Jul 2017 #6
Thank you for posting this, DesertRat. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #7
I'm inspired by the patriotic transgender service members DesertRat Jul 2017 #8
Yep shenmue Jul 2017 #25
More power to him, volstork Jul 2017 #11
i support ALL of our military service people. ALL PEOPLE ARE EQUAL. trueblue2007 Jul 2017 #12
LOVE guys like this who speak out Skittles Jul 2017 #13
Doesnt look like someone to trifle with for sure........... Old Vet Jul 2017 #14
I bet a lot of people didn't know there are thousands of them serving IronLionZion Jul 2017 #15
Texas wants to require dudes like him to use the women's restroom DesertRat Jul 2017 #17
They don't put a lot of thought or do much research into these policies IronLionZion Jul 2017 #18
Because, as you said, they never consider trans men. DesertRat Jul 2017 #19
Here's their "research" nikatnyte Jul 2017 #20
Actually, many of those people probably *have* interacted with trans people Cal Carpenter Jul 2017 #26
That was the first thought in my head! tammywammy Jul 2017 #21
You wanna fuck with this guy TRUMP? Still In Wisconsin Jul 2017 #22
So, along with kicking this Staff Sargent out of the AF... haele Jul 2017 #23
Yes, exactly. nt DesertRat Jul 2017 #24
The ACLU would like to talk to them csziggy Jul 2017 #27
Awesome. Thanks! DesertRat Jul 2017 #28

Docreed2003

(16,902 posts)
1. I salute every one of these service members!!!!
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 05:21 PM
Jul 2017

Every single one has given more to this country than Capt Bone Spurs could ever hope to!

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
3. I'd love to see him invite some of this service members to the WH
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 05:25 PM
Jul 2017

But we know he's way too cowardly. He'd rather make these proclamations by himself on twitter.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
8. I'm inspired by the patriotic transgender service members
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 05:37 PM
Jul 2017

who are expressing determination to stay in uniform!

volstork

(5,403 posts)
11. More power to him,
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 05:46 PM
Jul 2017

and to ALL of our LGBTQ servicewomen and men. The WH Mob can't hold a candle to these true patriots.

trueblue2007

(17,250 posts)
12. i support ALL of our military service people. ALL PEOPLE ARE EQUAL.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 05:48 PM
Jul 2017

I THINK THERE WILL BE A ... H U G E ... BACK LASH AGAINST TRUMP. Maybe even protesting in the streets.

IronLionZion

(45,658 posts)
15. I bet a lot of people didn't know there are thousands of them serving
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:05 PM
Jul 2017

and this really needs to backfire badly on Trump. No conservative ever even considers the possibility of trans men.

nikatnyte

(245 posts)
20. Here's their "research"
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:23 PM
Jul 2017

They know that demonizing a minority that most people have not interacted with works, especially in retrograde backwaters like rural Texas.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
26. Actually, many of those people probably *have* interacted with trans people
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 08:07 PM
Jul 2017

and just don't know it.

Would you know the guy in the picture up top was a trans man if you saw him at a bar in Texas?

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
21. That was the first thought in my head!
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:24 PM
Jul 2017

He can't serve in the military and has to use the women's restroom.

haele

(12,693 posts)
23. So, along with kicking this Staff Sargent out of the AF...
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 07:06 PM
Jul 2017

... Religious Reich bathroom police will also force Staff SGT Logan to use the ladies restroom when he gets out?
Because they have no clue that biologically born females might transgender to males. Because if it's about gender or sex in general, it must always be about the guys wanting to F**k and protecting their female property.

Haele

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
27. The ACLU would like to talk to them
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 09:59 PM
Jul 2017

They are just waiting for someone with standing to fight this!

In a tweetstorm sent this morning, President Trump announced he would ban transgender individuals like me from serving in our military “in any capacity.”

I have a message for the president: unlike you, my brother actually served in the military. He loves and believes in me and all trans people. You are coming for us, and we will come right back for you.

This is a stunningly cruel act of government oppression from a desperate president – and we have to fight back. Add your name now to tell Trump we won’t let him implement such a discriminatory and illegal policy.

Anyone who wants to serve and protect our freedoms deserves the same rights as everyone. Period.

Trump has no basis for his assertion that the U.S. military is “burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption” because transgender people serve in the military. The cost is almost zero. Disruption, non-existent.

But of course, we know the president’s plan has nothing to do with facts. It’s about ignorance and prejudice and fear.

The ACLU’s legal team is already hard at work on our options to defend our rights as transgender Americans. We’ll send you an update soon with more information on that front.

While we put our legal plan together, I’m asking you to take action today and make all of our voices heard. This is urgent – add your name to oppose President Trump’s vile and fundamentally un-American decision to ban trans people from serving in our military >>

Trans people – particularly youth – are already subject to some of the highest rates of bullying, harassment, hate crimes, discrimination, and suicide. This decision will only further alienate those of us in the transgender community.

The thousands of transgender service members on the front lines deserve better than a commander-in-chief who rejects their basic humanity.

This issue is bigger than the military. It’s about a lot of things: public employment, health care, and our survival. This is about our lives and our rights. Add your name now and show Trump our country is better than this.

I have another message to all transgender people: you are perfect and you are loved. Let’s find each other and fight this oppression together.

Thank you for acting,
Chase Strangio
Staff Attorney with the ACLU’s LGBT & HIV Project


After I signed their petition they sent me this to send out:

Dear friend,


Thank you for for taking a stand for the rights of transgender people. Please spread the word - we need everyone in this fight with us.

Share on Facebook or on Twitter, or forward the email below to your friends.

Thank you,

The ACLU Action Team



Dear friend,

In an early-morning series of tweets, President Trump announced a shattering new policy to ban transgender individuals from serving in the military. This is unacceptable – and illegal.

Trump has no basis for his assertion that the U.S. military is “burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption” because transgender people serve in the military. In fact, a 2014 report co-authored by a former U.S. Surgeon General concluded that the then-ban on transgender military service wasn’t based on sound medical reasoning.

The thousands of transgender service-members on the front lines deserve better from their commander-in-chief. Will you join me in the fight?

Thanks.


The link in the last message takes you to their petition page. NOTE: They have a link to a Facebook petition but the link gets messed up when I try to post it here.
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