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FBI Horrified As Spy Says Russia Has Been Supporting And Cultivating Trump For Years
A "veteran" spy is alleging that Russia is cultivating, supporting and assisting Donald Trump and has been for at least five years. The spy said the response from the FBI was "shock and horror."
The report alleges that Trump and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin and that Russian intelligence claims to have compromised Trump on his visits and could blackmail him.
http://www.politicususa.com/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump/
Eliot Rosewater
(31,131 posts)But the racists dont care, he hates all the right people, it comes down to that.
iluvtennis
(19,897 posts)Disabled, LGBTQ, etc.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,943 posts)But he was really Bizzaro Obama. That's who they wanted---Bizarro Obama.
Like Obamacare. Short-attention-spanners hate Obamacare, they love the ACA.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)onit2day
(1,201 posts)C Moon
(12,225 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)they told trump to study talk radio in 2014.
which he did, according to sam nunberg in an interview with gabriel sherman for new york magazine 4/3/16 - he says he listened to thousands of hours of talk radio and reported to trump and suggested it affected their primary strategy.
investigators need to ask about that. and would trump pay for nunberg to listen to thousands of hours of talk radio? maybe nunberg was getting his paycheck somewhere else.
malaise
(269,254 posts)Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
LOCK HIM UP!
rockfordfile
(8,709 posts)Girard442
(6,087 posts)Trump grovels before Putin.
CountAllVotes
(20,879 posts)Did you see the exchange between the two? Love at first sight ... yeah right!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)AmandaRuth
(3,105 posts)that M was picked for him
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)barbtries
(28,817 posts)hm.
canetoad
(17,208 posts)When exactly did Don the Con start on his birther rubbish? Five years ago?
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)At the 2011 Correspondents Dinner.
canetoad
(17,208 posts)And what a glorious piece of video that is!
So he started the birther bullshit well over five years ago. Maybe his outstanding effort caught the Kremlin's eye.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,232 posts)He kept up with even after the correspondents' dinner.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Gothmog
(145,794 posts)Trump is an idiot who is crying out to be recruited and compromised
Beartracks
(12,827 posts)Anyone's.
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NRaleighLiberal
(60,031 posts)superpatriotman
(6,254 posts)Democrats can scream until they're blue in the face. Until patriots emerge from the opposition nothing will be done about this.
bluestarone
(17,101 posts)Actually $0000000000-00000000000000
dchill
(38,594 posts)AllyCat
(16,252 posts)Are more zeros after the subtraction sign. So it's negative. In the red. Ya know. Maths and stuff.
MontanaMama
(23,366 posts)good one.
dchill
(38,594 posts)keithbvadu2
(37,008 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Nostalgic for the time that RWers would scream that verbatim at us.
Now, Russia is some kind of white person's paradise, where two-dozen people hold most of that same nation's wealth.
Maggiemayhem
(811 posts)I think it may go beyond the useful idiot. The right started Putin worship in 2013 and 2014. Suddenly, Russia wasn't an enemy, but Putin exemplified strong leadership and the right wing base ate it up and it laid the groundwork for today. Dig deeper. Right wing media just love Putin and they fail to see the big picture. Who else is being paid or just wants to see the US fail?
calimary
(81,565 posts)I'm sorry, but ANYBODY who sidles up to the Russians - our avowed and rather official and, for decades, widely-acknowledged adversary - does NOT put America first. OR make America great again.
LisaM
(27,848 posts)E.G., Stein, TYT, and co.
ProfessorPlum
(11,280 posts)I remember that too, and mark it as the time when the Kremlin hacked the RNC server and got all of their dirty little secrets. The GOP has been in Putin's back pocket ever since.
Cosmocat
(14,583 posts)No one is more pathetically obvious than Devin Nunes, but by their actions most of the republican leadership in Congress are either directly working for Russia or seriously compromised.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)All the Republican Russian fans and apologists are in deep dept to Russia.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)has been going on in the GOP for a while now - remember W kissing up to Putin and calling him "Putey Pute" or something like that? And, saying how he looked into Putin's eyes and saw a good man, or something like that?
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)We would be extremely naïve to think there aren't a number of R's who were financed by Ruskie money, whether they were aware of the money source, or not. And then there's the Ruskie hacking expertise. How virtually the entire country has turned red in just a few yrs, flies in the face of logic, unless you look at how we now vote...on electronic voting machines........
kyburbonkid
(251 posts)It's doesn't surprise me at all that Trump would be a nice fat juicy recruiting target 5 years ago, and with his imagined wealth, and ego, it is very likely he was flipped. But what do we know of the right-wing media? Rush Limballs could have turned, Alex Jones is certainly a russian spy, Same with Hannity and all of the other fruits and nuts of AM radio out there in the wild. I wonder how much speaking money Rush has taken from foreign interests?
calimary
(81,565 posts)I often find myself smirking about all those people who fell for the lies and character assassination of Hillary Clinton. Have they yet faced the fact that a lot of that crap they swallowed whole about her was yet another famous Russian invention? Hey, deplorables - how does it feel to have gotten ROLLED by the Russians? You fell for it face-first. You swallowed it without even bothering to chew. You were nothing but a Russian stooge. A mark. Good Grief did you get used. You must be SO proud...
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 1, 2017, 02:34 PM - Edit history (1)
That's what this is about, obvious when read, at least the Mother Jones article is.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)6000eliot
(5,643 posts)John1956PA
(2,667 posts)Banks were wary of loaning him any new money. He accepted the help of foreign backers.
azureblue
(2,155 posts)Trump's house of cards was but a whisper away from collapsing, and the Russians saw a way to use him to launder money, so they loaned him money. Then set up an office in Trump Towers to launder money from. Egotistical Trump was blind tot eh fact that he was being used and set up, and, when he ran for prez, the Russian mob saw a golden opportunity, so they offered to help Trump win. And Trump, being stupid as they come, and the con man fell for it...
Trump knows that he better get those sanctions lifted. And he knows the Russians won't, as US banks have done in the past, accept a "oh well, bankruptcy, and la de dah, I walk away again." Trump knows you do not walk away from Putin. He knows what will happen, and, as long as Trump is president, the odds of that happening are low. But if he gets thrown out of office, he's fair game. And the Russians will be at his door for a little talk.
Grammy23
(5,815 posts)If so expect tRump to get even more antsy as he worries himself into a snit that the Ruskies will spill the beans on him. The Steele dossier could contain enough msterial to make tRump poop his baggy pants. If we think he has been unhinged up to now, just wait until the stuff tRump wants to keep hidden starts oozing out into the news.
former9thward
(32,121 posts)The first one leads to nothing in the OP.
The second is a story printed 9 months ago with no sources whatsoever. In other words -- fake news.
drray23
(7,638 posts)definitely not fake news. Corn is a respected journalist.
former9thward
(32,121 posts)niyad
(113,774 posts)former9thward
(32,121 posts)If you want to believe stories like that more power to you. You will need it.
niyad
(113,774 posts)former9thward
(32,121 posts)Use it if it bothers you.
niyad
(113,774 posts)SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)That appears when you don't agree with them, just got to have those sources.
Or it's fake news, kind of like the spew from the Oval Office.
Some are trying to get the truth out.
Some are lying through their teeth.
I know which one is which.
niyad
(113,774 posts)drray23
(7,638 posts)If journalists had to publish their sources every time, they would not be able to get anybody to trust them with information.
Investigative journalists have relied on confidential sources forever. If it was not for them, we would never have heard about watergate (deep throat rings a bell ?) .
What matters is how reputable a given news source is and whether or not they are likely to produce stuff out of thin air.
David Corn and Mother Jones have been proven more than once to be reliable.
This argument about "no sources" is straight out of the RW fake news disinformation campaign. I am surprised you would fall for it.
former9thward
(32,121 posts)Their stories never would have been printed without them. Deep Throat was just one. If you want to believe Trump is a long time Russian spy without any sources, fine. If you want something hard enough then anything will be believed. It is the basis of faith.
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)Something I've never believed, trump a Russian spy?, there was a cartoon on here a ways back that had him as a spy posing as a "Jamaican Playboy" that was hilarious.
A Russian cock holster yes, I'll believe that.
No faith needed.
Some of us don't believe everything we read, you take it all with a grain of salt, but when the majority call a duck a duck it may just be a duck.
And I'm all out of salt.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)FBI would have arrested him. Comey would have definately known. Either way, putin is extremely intelligent and the way he works is that one wouldn't even realize they are pusuing his interests.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,178 posts)I think Obama chickened out. Not wanting to leave office amid swirling partisanship abuse. I also think Hillary had a lot to say in the matter. She was freaked out that Mitch's threat to burn down the barn with accusations of partisan fake news as a means to win the election would throw her negatives down the shoot for good. She most likely implored Obama and senior Democrats to keep it zipped and she'd deal with it after she inevitably won. It was the worse case scenerio in that no one did their patriotic duty and raised it as a real threat to national security AND she lost anyways. And Comey waffled about making sure he didn't piss off the GOP. his chosen party.
Democrats and Obama should have gone full throttle, despite the turtle's threats. I'm sure some of them think that now in hindsight. At the very least they would be on the record as being out in front of it early. Even now, I am perplexed that they don't get more fucking angry. Can u IMAGINE what Republicans would be like if this was Hillary winning, and not the popular vote either, but 17 intelligence agencies said she was helped by say..Maduro in Venezuela (a left equivalent of Putin)
tblue37
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(50,011 posts)FakeNoose
(32,854 posts)The election was in November, and people - including the FBI and the NSA - already knew without a doubt that Trump was a traitor. He was stooge for Putin and yet they didn't call a halt to anything, they let the election proceed.
At the time it was assumed that Trump would lose, but we all know how that worked out.
In retrospect, shouldn't Obama or the FBI have stepped in and called a halt to the election before it took place? There's no precedent for this and it would throw us into a Constitutional nightmare, but maybe that would have been better than what we have now.
You think so?
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)Just my thought.
Cosmocat
(14,583 posts)Decades ago through his casinos, there are more Russian mobsters and spooks and living in some of his properties than cock roaches.
yodermon
(6,143 posts)David corn/mojo broke it. Good historical article. Shocking that everything was allowed to proceed in spite of it.
burrowowl
(17,654 posts)diane in sf
(3,919 posts)He needed money, the Russians needed a laundry.
trueblue2007
(17,243 posts)malaise
(269,254 posts)Didn't lyin' Ryan make them swear to secrecy about this when McCarthy told them the Con is on Putin's payroll?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)neohippie
(1,142 posts)Russia has been pumping money both legally and illegally into our politics for decades, there are many of the same players in this administration that have been bought and paid to lobby for Russian Oil interests since back then
Take a look at the names mentioned in this article about Jack Abramoff
http://thegopwatchdog.com/the-untold-story-of-jack-abramoffs-russia-collusion/
Gothmog
(145,794 posts)Renew Deal
(81,893 posts)Because there is a correlation between his Russia interactions and his Obama.
turbinetree
(24,745 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,869 posts)It wouldn't surprise me if he turned out to have DEEP Russian ties.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)It sure sounds like it, just doesn't use a name, this was early when it wasn't widely released (the dossier) or in the news as yet.
barbtries
(28,817 posts)5 years of hinky deals and russian financing. ?
Orrex
(63,260 posts)It's a more accurate description of the relationship IMO.
Botany
(70,635 posts)Putin had Trump by the balls after that. Kompromat.
In Russian politics, Kompromat (Russian: компромат; IPA: [kəmprɐˈmat] (About this sound listen), short for компрометирующий материал, literally "compromising material" is compromising materials about a politician or other public figure used to create negative publicity, for blackmail, or for ensuring loyalty. Kompromat may be acquired from various security services, or outrightly forged, and then publicized by use of a public relations official. Widespread use of kompromat has been one of the characteristic features of the politics of Russia and other post-Soviet states. From wiki