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riversedge

(70,299 posts)
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 04:40 PM Aug 2017

Mueller Grand Jury going after Donny JR.meeting..Supoenas issued ...*****








Kyle Griffin?Verified account @kylegriffin1 34m34 minutes ago

Reuters: EXCLUSIVE-GRAND JURY SUBPOENAS ISSUED IN CONNECTION WITH JUNE 2016 MEETING BETWEEN TRUMP JR, RUSSIAN LAWYER AND OTHERS - SOURCES



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Mueller Grand Jury going after Donny JR.meeting..Supoenas issued ...***** (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2017 OP
Well, Junior went for the express reason of obtaining stolen information Warpy Aug 2017 #1
Does Junior have a security clearance? PJMcK Aug 2017 #12
The whole famdamnily has them. I wouldn't be surprised if Barron has one Warpy Aug 2017 #13
But he keeps saying the meeting was only 20 minutes, it was nothing. Wanna know why? George II Aug 2017 #38
Just because there wasn't a DVD-R in the trunk of the B&E guy's car Warpy Aug 2017 #40
and now back to the oval office................... riversedge Aug 2017 #2
Oh Donnie Jr., you mouth breather, you're bound to say something dumbassed underpants Aug 2017 #3
..... riversedge Aug 2017 #4
Maybe Ivanka can bring him some Champagne popsicles to cheer him up on visiting day Miles Archer Aug 2017 #5
no more bottles behind the wall. riversedge Aug 2017 #8
It's like a b horror movie: the regressive dna outcast that gets eaten first. lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #10
Heh! She's up next on the docket. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #14
I swear to god, I can see Ivanka's insincerity in her pictures. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #19
Subpoenas issued --added to OP.. riversedge Aug 2017 #6
That 'nothingburger" just got two beef patties, cheese, and lots of secret sauce. nt procon Aug 2017 #7
Ha ha, well done, procon!! Man, I just got HUNGRY here!!! nt Leghorn21 Aug 2017 #30
Why not wait? awesomerwb1 Aug 2017 #9
Jr. was not only one at the June meet up. plural subpeonas were issued. That said. it riversedge Aug 2017 #20
The people that are naming is to send a message to Dumbkopf dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #21
It might simply be what they have. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #22
The GJ is also... xajj4791 Aug 2017 #29
Names!!! Who got them????? lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #11
And Junior goes under the bus in 5, 4, 3, 2... mcar Aug 2017 #15
Russia calls you impotent. Congress deems you irrelevant. Prosecutor impanels Grand Jury. DT,have a riversedge Aug 2017 #17
Love the Reiners! mcar Aug 2017 #25
One element not in Junior's favor PJMcK Aug 2017 #16
Agree. There is an old saying: If you tell the truth, you will not have trouble remembering the riversedge Aug 2017 #18
Another quote from "The West Wing" that seems appropriate PJMcK Aug 2017 #23
thanks. riversedge Aug 2017 #26
I think it had to do with milk subsidies Sophiegirl Aug 2017 #28
That's the scene PJMcK Aug 2017 #31
Possibly a 3rd reason to let a known liar blab... dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #35
I wonder if Mueller has receives anything from Russia... Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #24
There's your goddamn two scoops. C_U_L8R Aug 2017 #27
He has to try and fire Mueller now Thrill Aug 2017 #32
What will mob boss Trump do...hmmm workinclasszero Aug 2017 #34
Hoo boy! Here it comes!! workinclasszero Aug 2017 #33
Look for preemptive pardons to be issued for mtngirl47 Aug 2017 #36
Who's Kyle Griffin?? kentuck Aug 2017 #37
Is it wrong that I'm smiling? ButSeeYa Aug 2017 #39

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
1. Well, Junior went for the express reason of obtaining stolen information
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 04:42 PM
Aug 2017

I think it's likely to get his security clearance removed and maybe a fine levied.

Everything that isolates the man-baby in the WH is a good thing.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
12. Does Junior have a security clearance?
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 05:17 PM
Aug 2017

This was a fast Google search:

https://www.bustle.com/p/does-donald-trump-jr-have-security-clearance-hes-not-a-government-employee-72626

I'm not certain about the site's veracity, however, there is this point that makes sense:

At the time of the (June 2016) meeting, Trump Jr. worked closely with his father's campaign, but he has no official position in the Trump administration. As a result, Trump Jr. likely doesn't have a security clearance or access to classified information within his father's White House.

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
13. The whole famdamnily has them. I wouldn't be surprised if Barron has one
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 05:21 PM
Aug 2017

They are his close associates and sit in on briefings.

No, they have no official titles, have not been vetted by anybody but Man-baby, and have not been approved by Congress. That doesn't make any difference to the Orange Excrescence.

George II

(67,782 posts)
38. But he keeps saying the meeting was only 20 minutes, it was nothing. Wanna know why?
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 06:53 PM
Aug 2017

Because they didn't have dirt on Clinton! Wonder how long the meeting would have lasted if they did?

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
40. Just because there wasn't a DVD-R in the trunk of the B&E guy's car
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 06:55 PM
Aug 2017

doesn't mean the cops aren't going to bust you along with the B&E guy.

Poor baby, all this trouble and terrible persecution and he didn't even get his pony!

riversedge

(70,299 posts)
2. and now back to the oval office...................
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 04:44 PM
Aug 2017

it is fire--smoke no more...................






Larry Retweeted
Hillary Miller? @CricketArt67 3m3 minutes ago

WSJ reports that Robert #Mueller has empaneled a Grand Jury in the #TrumpRussia (criminal) investigation.

Now back to the Oval Office...

lindysalsagal

(20,730 posts)
10. It's like a b horror movie: the regressive dna outcast that gets eaten first.
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 05:04 PM
Aug 2017

The progeny of a fool who rates all women he sees on a scale of 1-10 for beauty.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
9. Why not wait?
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 04:58 PM
Aug 2017

I mean, why are they not waiting for other cheeto related stuff ?? Will going after Jr open the floodgates?

I don't get it. I'm sure I'm missing something.

riversedge

(70,299 posts)
20. Jr. was not only one at the June meet up. plural subpeonas were issued. That said. it
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 05:37 PM
Aug 2017

is a mystery. But Mueller is going after the money also.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
21. The people that are naming is to send a message to Dumbkopf
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 05:41 PM
Aug 2017

You get the dipshits in front of a Grand Jury to testify against the one you really want.
dipshits get a lesser plea and/or no jail time.

Best yet, Trump just fired a handful of people most likely to rat on him now.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
22. It might simply be what they have.
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 05:45 PM
Aug 2017

Might be more. Really no way to know. It's been a pretty tight lipped investigation.

 

xajj4791

(84 posts)
29. The GJ is also...
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 06:07 PM
Aug 2017

a means for applying pressure on weak willed individuals who like to hide behind daddy whom if flipped could provide exceptionally damning information to further the primary purpose of the investigation.

riversedge

(70,299 posts)
17. Russia calls you impotent. Congress deems you irrelevant. Prosecutor impanels Grand Jury. DT,have a
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 05:31 PM
Aug 2017

Daddy Sr. not having a good day. Most likely the only thing he is now upset is the GJ call to duty.




Rob Reiner?Verified account @robreiner 26m26 minutes ago

Russia calls you impotent. Congress deems you irrelevant. Prosecutor impanels Grand Jury. DT,have a fun vacation.



PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
16. One element not in Junior's favor
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 05:28 PM
Aug 2017

Witnesses in grand jury proceedings are generally not allowed to have their lawyers advising them during questioning. This could be a big problem for Junior when Robert Mueller subpoenas him.

The biggest problems with lies are that they are in conflict with material facts and they're hard to remember, especially when you've told several different and inconsistent stories previously. When Junior testifies, Mr. Mueller's team will have already developed a clear image of the scope of their investigation and for the most part, the prosecutors will know the answers to the questions they'll put to him. This can serve two purposes: first to probe the witness for additional details and second to test the witness's veracity. Since the Trump's have built a mountain of lies, keeping them straight will be nearly impossible.

Since Junior is not very bright, he'll be in a lot of trouble trying to keep his story together. He'll have a hard time not incriminating himself and not committing perjury. Oh, to be a fly on the wall of that hearing room!

riversedge

(70,299 posts)
18. Agree. There is an old saying: If you tell the truth, you will not have trouble remembering the
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 05:34 PM
Aug 2017

truth. don't know who said it. But saw it posted recently.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
23. Another quote from "The West Wing" that seems appropriate
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 05:47 PM
Aug 2017

Toby Zeigler was asked about a vote that presidential candidate Josiah Bartlet made as a Congressman. His response is good advice:

"I asked him about his vote. He told me. I said that if asked about it tonight, he should-- if only because it's the easiest thing to remember-- tell the truth."

Applicable in most parts of life.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
28. I think it had to do with milk subsidies
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 06:06 PM
Aug 2017

That actually went against US farm owners and he fessed up, yet explained why he made the decision....which in the end, satisfied the townhall crowd. He was honest. Even if it meant accepting the scorn of the constituents.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
31. That's the scene
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 06:08 PM
Aug 2017

It's a flashback in the episodes following President Bartlett's being shot.

You and I have probably watched "The West Wing" too many times, Sophiegirl!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
35. Possibly a 3rd reason to let a known liar blab...
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 06:29 PM
Aug 2017

Instant new charges of perjury, obstruction, etc. to add heft getting them to rat out dear ole daddy.

does not apply to Trump himself as a witness, cause he lies about everything, rather effortlessly and does not appear bothered by it, just keeps confabulating along.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
24. I wonder if Mueller has receives anything from Russia...
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 05:47 PM
Aug 2017

Since Don called Putin to let him know he had to sign the sanctions.

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