Black people arent keeping white Americans out of college. Rich people are.

[CousinIT]

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Affirmative action is a consistent hobbyhorse on the right because it combines real anxieties with compelling falsehoods. College admission — especially to the elite institutions most often hit with affirmative action lawsuits — has become more selective and is an increasingly important factor in the creation and perpetuation of wealth and opportunity. Elite colleges serve as steppingstones into politics, finance, law and Silicon Valley; higher incomes tend to follow. Even so, 80 percent of top students who apply are accepted into at least one elite school, if not their No. 1 choice. But measures that help historically disadvantaged populations to take advantage of the same opportunity are nonetheless characterized as zero-sum.

What is essential to understand is that it’s not a vast crowd of black or brown people keeping white Americans out of the colleges of their choice, especially not the working-class white Americans among whom Trump finds his base of support. In fact, income tips the scale much more than race: At 38 top colleges in the United States, more students come from the top 1 percent of income earners than from the bottom 60 percent. Really leveling the admissions playing field, assuming the Trump administration actually cares about doing so, would involve much broader efforts to redistribute wealth and power. A focus on fringe campaigns against affirmative action suggests it does not.

Addressing inequalities in K-12 education, for instance, could help at-risk students of all races increase their chances of attending a top college — or any college at all. Policies such as property-tax-based funding for schools and the curiously slanted allocation of talented teachers (in Louisiana, for instance, a student in the poorest quartile of schools is almost three times as likely to be taught by an ineffective teacher as a student in the wealthiest quartile is) give a tremendous boost in college admissions to children from high-income families, often at the expense of their lower-income peers.

And right up to the application-writing doorstep, the beneficiaries of the biggest extra edge in admissions are more often than not the children of alumni. At Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Georgetown and Stanford universities, the acceptance rate for legacy applicants is between two and three times higher than the general admissions rate. Pressing universities to drop legacy preferences, following the example of other elite schools such as the University of Oxford and University of Cambridge, could free up spots for those without that built-in advantage. Trump’s own wealthy-parent-sponsored education at the University of Pennsylvania, followed by the subsequent admission of three of his four adult children, makes that particular initiative seem unlikely. . . .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/black-people-arent-keeping-white-americans-out-of-college-rich-people-are/2017/08/04/e478952e-794a-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html

[Hoyt]

1. Last thing in world that worries me is Affirmative Action. White wingers are just stupid & vile.

[TheBlackAdder]

2. I believe that to be true, as there is ample room for student growth at most colleges/universities.

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The move to web-based college courses has opened up a lot of class room space. Online participation is boundless.


There are many in academia who are looking for professorships, but most tenured professors remain and lock up those positions because the work is minimal, the pay is great, and there are a boatload of perks. I've had this conversation with a group of professors during the Spring term. It is difficult for younger people to enter the academic arena.


There is a workforce of untapped professors. There is an bridled group of students. These need to be relaxed.


The wealthy do not want competition for their spawn. They want a low-wage workforce to manipulate. A set pf people who will not challenge whatever bullshit is floated by the elite.

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[JI7]

3. Just look at dumbass jared getting inn to harvard since his parents paid millions