RT is laden with propaganda -- no doubt.

[earthshine]

I really like Thom Hartmann, Lee Camp, and some others on RT. I believe in their genuineness.

But, they must get their shows off the RT network. In the eyes of many, they are guilty by association.

These people started on RT when there were no controversies. It is wrong of us to stick it to Thom just because the rest of the network is now seen in a different light.

If you want to see some propaganda, just go a few minutes into this episode of Crosstalk. I had to stop when the guy said of Putin, around the 3:45 mark, that "Putin is quite a liberal, these days."

[Gothmog]

1. Being on RT is a big negative

[Foamfollower]

2. Nope, as far as I'm concnered everything the man has ever said is now suspect.

[earthshine]

3. As far as I'm concerned, that's like your opinion, man...

and offered without anything substantiating it.

You offer nothing but noise.

[Foamfollower]

4. I offer TRUTH.

He's paid by Putin.

End of discussion.

[earthshine]

5. Truth must be offered with proof. Please try again.

You have your facts wrong. Thom pays RT, not the other way around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Picture_with_Thom_Hartmann

Oh, end of discussion.

[Foamfollower]

8. Bullshit, he licenses the show to RT in return for licensing fees and use of RT studios.

That's payment.

Your own link says so.

[earthshine]

9. He pays them to have his show aired.

He is in charge of all editorializing and responsible for his own words.

You present nothing that says he ever said something offensive.

All of the talking heads on major networks are stifled to some degree, because of who owns the cameras.

I've been listening to Thom since the Air America days. Thom has no pro-Putin messages.

But, I don't expect him to go off on a diatribe about Putin (say like Olbermann does) for the same reason Rachel Maddow will never speak ill of GE, Comcast, or issues of net neutrality.

[Doc Coco]

6. No, you offer nothing of significance

[Foamfollower]

7. That's like your opinion, man.

[earthshine]

10. Hey, don't steal my line (stolen from the Big Lebowsky)! nt

[leftstreet]

11. Is DU getting weird from pre-eclipse vibes or something? n/t