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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Ivanka Trump really a secret liberal?
People sometimes tell me that Ivanka Trump is actually somewhat of a liberal but of course supports her father out of loyalty. According to the "Ivanka is a secret liberal" theory Ivanka is a break on Trump and might be a positive influence on an otherwise bad administration.
Is there any truth to this? I don't know all that much about Ivanka but a lot of people tell me this. I even had a Democratic friend tell me that Ivanka being around makes him less nervous about Trump because supposedly she is a positive influence on him and he listens to her.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)July
(4,750 posts)She's his personal babysitter, and she and her husband are selling their brands as connected to the U.S. President.
She hasn't spoken out against her father's anti-immigrant and anti-transgender policies, she doesn't give a damn about "Made in America," judging from her outsourced products, and she is not talking him down from alienating our allies or trying to start a nuclear war.
So, no, she's not anything like a liberal.
Are you?
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)enough
(13,259 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)MiddleClass
(888 posts)She is not a horse whisperer.
Daddy is God, but down deep all the trumps love money
MerryBlooms
(11,768 posts)JI7
(89,248 posts)hatrack
(59,584 posts)EDIT
Just this June, in honor of Pride Month, the presidential daughter and special assistant to the president pledged to be an ally for the LGBTQ community, tweeting, I am proud to support my LGBTQ friends and the LGBTQ Americans who have made immense contributions to our society and economy. That support evidently doesnt extend to the likely thousands of trans servicepeople (that's the T, in LGBTQIA, Ms. Trump), who signed up to risk their lives on behalf of all Americans and whose careers now hang in the balance. (True to form, President Trump was quick to tweet, but by press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanderss own admission, seems to have no plan for those current trans military members, and according to some theories, he dashed off the ban in an effort to appease his blood-red base. Today, the Department of Justice dealt the LGBTQ community another blow, filing a brief that argues against workplace protections for LGBTQ employees.)
By now, though, empty words from Ivanka Trump are no longer noteworthy; they are the normas routine as the presidents cyberbullying (any day now with your First Lady initiative, Melania) and schmoozing from Anthony The Mooch Scaramucci. While Ivanka is repeatedly credited as having her fathers ear, the trans ban is just the latest in a string of defeats on what are believed to be Ivankas stated causes. On climate change: It was she who met with Al Gore and Leonardo DiCaprio during the transition, only to see her father make the U.S. one of the only developed nations on the planet to pull out of the Paris climate accord. While she fancies herself an advocate for the education and empowerment of women and girls, shes been conspicuously (dead) silent as her father rolled back workplace protections that apply to the gender pay gap and continues to urge (to the point of public shaming) GOP congressmen to defund Planned Parenthood and pass health care bills that would strip coverage from millions of womennot quite a boon to womens empowerment.
So far, as noted by former senior adviser to President Obama Dan Pfeiffer, Ivanka might be the least influential Presidential advisor in history. So much so that a hilarious satirical New Yorker piece that imagines that her advocacy for a signature issue like climate change amounts to merely considering to purchase a Klean Kanteen water bottle has started to feel disturbingly true. God bless nepotism, because an adviser this ineffectual might normally resign or be ousted. But Ivanka gets a few slow claps of credit just for being one of the lone supposed social liberals bold (alternately: shameless) enough to put on her sheath dress and show up to a White House this hostile to women and the underrepresented. In the case of the trans military ban, The Daily Beast reported that Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, oppose all the anti-LGBT initiatives but they quickly determined that their political capital be spent elsewhere.
Which begs the question: what political capital? Ivanka Trump has displayed none in her fathers White Houseand its time to accept that theres a good chance she never will. To invoke the old cliché, if insanity is repeating the same actions over and over and expecting a different result, its time to stop expecting Ivanka will do anything meaningful with her proximity to power. It would be pointless to continue to note her silent opposition to her fathers agenda or paint her as a bastion of virtue amid Steve Bannons alt-right swamp. She is not going to save us, or anyone else. And she is not going to stand in Trumps way as he scandalizes Boy Scouts, or sanctions potentially unconstitutional discrimination from the Oval Office.
EDIT
http://www.vogue.com/article/ivanka-trump-ineffective-adviser-give-up-hope
adigal
(7,581 posts)and maybe worse. She has no power in her relationship with Daddy.
It is really sick, when you look at pics of them over the years.
C_U_L8R
(45,000 posts)Then no. She's no liberal. She's a poseur.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)It's meaningless, either way.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)That's it.
Bladewire
(381 posts)She's as underhsnded, thieving, selfish and ruthless as her father.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Where her products are manufactured.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,184 posts)Does she support estate taxes? Does she support a $15 minimum wage?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Have YOU seen anything POSITIVE coming out of this administration since Ivunka came to baby-sit her daddy?
Forget about what your friends "SAY."
Do YOU see goodness coming from any part of this administration?
You may answer your OWN question if you're into truth.
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,792 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,454 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Ivanka cares about one thing. Her princess ass being kissed. Fuck her.
spotthebird
(171 posts)Freethinker65
(10,015 posts)haele
(12,649 posts)She's got minority cocktail buddies and being a "liberal" gives her an excuse to complain about how unfair "The Man" is when she can't just do whatever she wants and get the appropriate (in her mind) respect and recognition for her projects.
On edit-Ivanka is out for herself. Being seen as "liberal" allows her to drop her kids off with nannies while she holds court and supports easy "good deeds" for public admiration.
Haele
Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)Ivanka is for Ivanka. There is nothing liberal about that.
Gothmog
(145,168 posts)Hekate
(90,662 posts)...watch what she does, not what she says.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)Those flashes of mainstream positions make her seem liberal given the backdrop of the rest of her family
The examples I can think of are her disagreement with Orange Julius on climate change, and her family child birth leave idea
oppressedproletarian
(243 posts)All the trump tribe are in the exact mold of the fake prez...lying scum