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Willie Pep

(841 posts)
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 07:43 PM Aug 2017

Is Ivanka Trump really a secret liberal?

People sometimes tell me that Ivanka Trump is actually somewhat of a liberal but of course supports her father out of loyalty. According to the "Ivanka is a secret liberal" theory Ivanka is a break on Trump and might be a positive influence on an otherwise bad administration.

Is there any truth to this? I don't know all that much about Ivanka but a lot of people tell me this. I even had a Democratic friend tell me that Ivanka being around makes him less nervous about Trump because supposedly she is a positive influence on him and he listens to her.

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Is Ivanka Trump really a secret liberal? (Original Post) Willie Pep Aug 2017 OP
No. Squinch Aug 2017 #1
Um, no. July Aug 2017 #2
She has shown no capacity to influence the Man-Baby njhoneybadger Aug 2017 #3
no handmade34 Aug 2017 #4
No. She's not anything. She has no ideas and no principles. NT enough Aug 2017 #5
Empty suit. No more no less. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2017 #6
Yes, but only if the last person to leave Don the Con, otherwise no MiddleClass Aug 2017 #7
No. She's nothing but her father's shaddow. MerryBlooms Aug 2017 #8
Nope. Her only interests are her own personal gains and image. Just like her dad JI7 Aug 2017 #9
Best single answer to your question - from Vogue, of all places hatrack Aug 2017 #10
Ivanka may be a liberal, but I truly believe she is the victim of emotional incest, at the least adigal Aug 2017 #11
If her deeds and actions are proof C_U_L8R Aug 2017 #12
. jberryhill Aug 2017 #13
Exactly, nobody cares.... N/T SonofDonald Aug 2017 #19
Don't know and don't care. MineralMan Aug 2017 #14
She's loyal to the brand. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #15
No Bladewire Aug 2017 #16
Would a liberal support sweatshops? SHRED Aug 2017 #17
Yeah. Does she support higher taxes on the wealthy? TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #23
Wuh? lunasun Aug 2017 #18
OP .... LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #20
I am shocked that Trunp apologia is allowed here. VermontKevin Aug 2017 #21
She's as fake as her lipsboobsvoicenosemoderation Stinky The Clown Aug 2017 #22
She's a spoiled rich kid. Kingofalldems Aug 2017 #24
You're seriously asking this now? RhodeIslandOne Aug 2017 #25
No. nt spotthebird Aug 2017 #26
Ivanka is an opportunist like her dad Freethinker65 Aug 2017 #27
She's a Limousine Liberal. haele Aug 2017 #28
No. She is a blatant opportunist Generic Brad Aug 2017 #29
No way Gothmog Aug 2017 #30
The Crown Princess is not any sort of liberal, secret or otherwise. As with anyone... Hekate Aug 2017 #31
Not really but she seems to have a few moderate ideas Amishman Aug 2017 #32
Don't be fooled oppressedproletarian Aug 2017 #33
Money is the only thing the Trump Klan cares about. sarcasmo Aug 2017 #34
No.. Next Question Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #35
does not matter...allegiance number one is to the trump crime family dembotoz Aug 2017 #36

July

(4,750 posts)
2. Um, no.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 07:49 PM
Aug 2017

She's his personal babysitter, and she and her husband are selling their brands as connected to the U.S. President.

She hasn't spoken out against her father's anti-immigrant and anti-transgender policies, she doesn't give a damn about "Made in America," judging from her outsourced products, and she is not talking him down from alienating our allies or trying to start a nuclear war.

So, no, she's not anything like a liberal.

Are you?

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
7. Yes, but only if the last person to leave Don the Con, otherwise no
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 07:59 PM
Aug 2017

She is not a horse whisperer.

Daddy is God, but down deep all the trumps love money

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
10. Best single answer to your question - from Vogue, of all places
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 08:04 PM
Aug 2017

EDIT

Just this June, in honor of Pride Month, the presidential daughter and special assistant to the president pledged to be an ally for the LGBTQ community, tweeting, “I am proud to support my LGBTQ friends and the LGBTQ Americans who have made immense contributions to our society and economy.” That support evidently doesn’t extend to the likely thousands of trans servicepeople (that's the “T,” in LGBTQIA, Ms. Trump), who signed up to risk their lives on behalf of all Americans and whose careers now hang in the balance. (True to form, President Trump was quick to tweet, but by press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders’s own admission, seems to have no plan for those current trans military members, and according to some theories, he dashed off the ban in an effort to appease his blood-red base. Today, the Department of Justice dealt the LGBTQ community another blow, filing a brief that argues against workplace protections for LGBTQ employees.)

By now, though, empty words from Ivanka Trump are no longer noteworthy; they are the norm—as routine as the president’s cyberbullying (any day now with your First Lady initiative, Melania) and schmoozing from Anthony “The Mooch” Scaramucci. While Ivanka is repeatedly credited as “having her father’s ear,” the trans ban is just the latest in a string of defeats on what are believed to be Ivanka’s stated causes. On climate change: It was she who met with Al Gore and Leonardo DiCaprio during the transition, only to see her father make the U.S. one of the only developed nations on the planet to pull out of the Paris climate accord. While she fancies herself an “advocate for the education and empowerment of women and girls,” she’s been conspicuously (dead) silent as her father rolled back workplace protections that apply to the gender pay gap and continues to urge (to the point of public shaming) GOP congressmen to defund Planned Parenthood and pass health care bills that would strip coverage from millions of women—not quite a boon to women’s empowerment.

So far, as noted by former senior adviser to President Obama Dan Pfeiffer, “Ivanka might be the least influential Presidential advisor in history.” So much so that a hilarious satirical New Yorker piece that imagines that her advocacy for a “signature issue” like climate change amounts to merely considering to purchase a Klean Kanteen water bottle has started to feel disturbingly true. God bless nepotism, because an adviser this ineffectual might normally resign or be ousted. But Ivanka gets a few slow claps of credit just for being one of the lone supposed social liberals bold (alternately: shameless) enough to put on her sheath dress and show up to a White House this hostile to women and the underrepresented. In the case of the trans military ban, The Daily Beast reported that Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, oppose “all the anti-LGBT initiatives” but “they quickly determined” that their “political capital be spent elsewhere.”

Which begs the question: what political capital? Ivanka Trump has displayed none in her father’s White House—and it’s time to accept that there’s a good chance she never will. To invoke the old cliché, if insanity is repeating the same actions over and over and expecting a different result, it’s time to stop expecting Ivanka will do anything meaningful with her proximity to power. It would be pointless to continue to note her silent opposition to her father’s agenda or paint her as a bastion of virtue amid Steve Bannon’s alt-right swamp. She is not going to save us, or anyone else. And she is not going to stand in Trump’s way as he scandalizes Boy Scouts, or sanctions potentially unconstitutional discrimination from the Oval Office.

EDIT

http://www.vogue.com/article/ivanka-trump-ineffective-adviser-give-up-hope

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
11. Ivanka may be a liberal, but I truly believe she is the victim of emotional incest, at the least
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 08:06 PM
Aug 2017

and maybe worse. She has no power in her relationship with Daddy.
It is really sick, when you look at pics of them over the years.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,184 posts)
23. Yeah. Does she support higher taxes on the wealthy?
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 09:39 PM
Aug 2017

Does she support estate taxes? Does she support a $15 minimum wage?

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
20. OP ....
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 09:34 PM
Aug 2017

Have YOU seen anything POSITIVE coming out of this administration since Ivunka came to baby-sit her daddy?

Forget about what your friends "SAY."

Do YOU see goodness coming from any part of this administration?

You may answer your OWN question if you're into truth.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
25. You're seriously asking this now?
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 09:40 PM
Aug 2017

Ivanka cares about one thing. Her princess ass being kissed. Fuck her.

haele

(12,649 posts)
28. She's a Limousine Liberal.
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 10:33 PM
Aug 2017

She's got minority cocktail buddies and being a "liberal" gives her an excuse to complain about how unfair "The Man" is when she can't just do whatever she wants and get the appropriate (in her mind) respect and recognition for her projects.
On edit-Ivanka is out for herself. Being seen as "liberal" allows her to drop her kids off with nannies while she holds court and supports easy "good deeds" for public admiration.

Haele

Hekate

(90,662 posts)
31. The Crown Princess is not any sort of liberal, secret or otherwise. As with anyone...
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 01:59 AM
Aug 2017

...watch what she does, not what she says.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
32. Not really but she seems to have a few moderate ideas
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:13 AM
Aug 2017

Those flashes of mainstream positions make her seem liberal given the backdrop of the rest of her family

The examples I can think of are her disagreement with Orange Julius on climate change, and her family child birth leave idea

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