Shut up!
Just shut the fuck up!
The 2016 election is OVER. Bernie Sanders lost. Jill Stein lost. Anyone who might be reading here who didn't vote for Hillary in the GE because of *reasons* is not going to give a shit what you have to say.
Hillary lost. Maybe some who voted for Sanders and/or Stein would have been OK with that at the time, or maybe they thought things couldn't possibly go so fucking sideways that Donald Fucking Trump might actually get elected. Either way, it's likely they're regretting their "principled stance" now, just like those who voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 almost universally regretted that after Bush won.
If you care at all about this country - and I presume we all do, given the emphasis behind all of the vitriol being spewed in every direction around here - you HAVE to recognize that whining and complaining that your favored candidate was given a raw deal is not going to do a goddamn thing to help whichever candidates we trot out there in 2018 and 2020.
Do have my own feeling about what went wrong? Yes. Do I harbor some ill will towards those people and systems that allows those things to go wrong? Of course I do. But it's not going to do any good to come onto an Internet message board and spew bile about it. If you do, that post will have three types of people reading it: those who fervently agree (hello echo chamber), those who vehemently disagree (hello circular firing squad), and those who are sick and tired of hearing people complain and want us to solve the goddamn problems that got us into this mess in the first place.
So if you're here just to bash Sanders/Stein/Clinton and those who voted for them and didn't vote for your candidate, SHUT THE FUCK UP. Come back when you're ready to be a part of taking back the House in 2018, and the Senate and White House in 2020. (Yes, I recognize that technically we could take the Senate in 2018, but given that the Dems hold the vast majority of the seats up for grabs next year, the math says it's going to be a real challenge to add seats.)
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and possibly the world
so FUCK OFF 3rd party voters, each and EVERY single FUCKING ONE OF YOU
I'm STFUing right fucking now!
P.S.: Your avatar would probably counsel a softer approach, I think.
Buddhists can surprise you sometimes. 
Yes, I voted for Nader in 2000, and no, it didn't change a damn thing in my state (Tennessee), where Bush won handily. That said, I recognize that I was naive, as were many, many others who voted for Nader out of principle to the idea that the DLC had steered the party too far in favor of the rich and corporations. We (I'll use that pronoun with the full understanding that I do not necessarily speak for anyone else) mistakenly believed that Gore would win hands down, so a vote out of principle would mean little in the short term, but would perhaps send a message to the party that a segment of Democratic voters had had enough of the neoliberal philosophy.
And once again, as I'm sure the data would show, the vast majority of those who refused to vote for Hillary because she isn't - or wasn't perceived to be - "liberal enough", were young and had not experienced the regret many of us who voted for Nader felt after the fiasco of Florida in 2000 was over. For the record, I swore after 2000 to vote for whoever the Democrats run in every single national election regardless of whether I believe they're "liberal enough" or just "better than the alternative", because I thought Bush was a real eye opener. Now many of those who stayed home or voted for Stein are having their own epiphanies. There's no need to continue rubbing salt in their wounds, regardless of how much anyone may blame them. There's plenty of blame to go around, and I suspect most of them aren't feeling that great about the ramifications of their principled stand now.
The point - my avatar not withstanding - is that many people are tired of the constant bickering, regardless of whether it's the Bernie-backers (I refuse to use the now-insult term "Bernie-bros"
complaining about Hillary's "terrible campaign" or the Hilliary-backers constant bashing of Sanders and Stein and their voters. Both sides are guilty, and both sides should stop so we can focus on the job at hand.
(You're one of the few who was around back when I posted enough to have to answer this question) 
Otherwise we'll just keep digging that hole! 
Did you see Jim Jeffries this week? He was so right when he said that the democrats have a serious branding problem.
The republicans won and keep winning because they have a clear, concise message and they stick with it.
What I'm saying is we need to stop fighting with each other, unite, and come up with a clear, concise message and stick with it. Otherwise...
