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RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:33 PM Aug 2017

An American tourist gave the Nazi salute in Germany so a stranger beat him up, police say

Excellent - kick the shit outta him! This salute should be banned in the US too IMO!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/08/13/an-american-tourist-gave-the-nazi-salute-in-germany-so-a-stranger-beat-him-up-police-say/

An American tourist in Germany was beaten up by a passer-by after he began giving the Nazi salute outside a cafe in Dresden, police said Sunday.

The incident occurred about 8:15 a.m. Saturday as the man left a cafe called Europe in the Neustadt district of Dresden, police said in a statement. The district is known to be a liberal part of the town and a popular meeting spot for students.

The tourist was identified only as a 41-year-old American man who was “severely drunk,” according to police. He suffered minor injuries, while the stranger who assailed him fled the scene, police said.

Police said the U.S. national is under investigation for violating German laws prohibiting Nazi symbols and that they are still seeking the passer-by for causing personal injury, according to the Associated Press.

The Nazi salute — the right arm straight and angled slightly up, palm down — was used as a greeting and a way of expressing devotion to Adolf Hitler under the Third Reich. Germany outlawed the salute after World War II, along with Holocaust denial and other symbols and signals associated with the Nazis. A conviction can carry a prison sentence of up to three years, although courts often impose fines instead.
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An American tourist gave the Nazi salute in Germany so a stranger beat him up, police say (Original Post) RKP5637 Aug 2017 OP
yep...the salute should be classified as hate speech.... dhill926 Aug 2017 #1
Hate speech is totally legal in the US GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #3
Stop the salutes, but nonviolently american_ideals Aug 2017 #2
Not a really smart thing to do in Dresden. lpbk2713 Aug 2017 #4
Times like this I'm glad we have the 1st ammendment Calculating Aug 2017 #5
I suspect that the Germans have outlawed this and other Nazi attributes since they suffered so much. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2017 #6
there is good reason for it as seen in the history . it's not like they are being tortured JI7 Aug 2017 #8
Sad to see the defense of vigilantism Vermijelli Aug 2017 #7
With a nod to the First Amendment mountain grammy Aug 2017 #9

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
5. Times like this I'm glad we have the 1st ammendment
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:58 PM
Aug 2017

How the hell can you get years in jail or fines over simply lifting your arm in a certain way or saying saying certain political beliefs? I'm not saying that it's right to be a Nazi or racist, but making that speech/expression illegal doesn't seem very just either. They should be free to say their vile thoughts, and us normal people should be free to ridicule them and have nothing to do with them.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,611 posts)
6. I suspect that the Germans have outlawed this and other Nazi attributes since they suffered so much.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 08:02 PM
Aug 2017

They do not want to have any part of their society taking part in what was very painful for the country as a whole.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
8. there is good reason for it as seen in the history . it's not like they are being tortured
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:27 PM
Aug 2017

and sent to death camps.

 

Vermijelli

(76 posts)
7. Sad to see the defense of vigilantism
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:21 PM
Aug 2017

In the other threads. It's quite a deep, dark rabbit hole to go down.

He broke another nation's laws, so I have no sympathy in that respect. But let their law enforcement deal with it.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
9. With a nod to the First Amendment
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:35 PM
Aug 2017

I think all symbols of the confederacy should have been banned after the Civil War, certainly anything on public property involving any use of taxpayer money.

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