David Crosby sums up Ted Nugent's 52-year career in 7 simple words.

[Miles Archer]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ted-nugent-hall-of-fame_us_59928cb4e4b08a247276e695

Conservative rocker Ted Nugent claims his involvement in the National Rifle Association has kept him from his industry’s biggest honor.

“That’s the only reason I’m not in the Rock And Roll Of Fame,” Nugent declared in an interview with Albany radio station Q103 last week.

But one person who knows a little about what it takes to get into the Hall of Fame says there’s another reason Nugent isn’t a member.

On Monday, music great David Crosby tweeted:

Rooster Jones?
@RoosterJones3

@thedavidcrosby ted Nugent recently said political correctness is keeping him out of the Rock and Roll hall of fame..do you agree?
10:50 AM - 14 Aug 2017

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David Crosby Retweeted Rooster Jones
No the asshole just isn't good enough

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[oasis]

1. "..the asshole just isn't good enough".

With no significant improvement expected. Try again in your next life Nuge.

[workinclasszero]

2. Plus he's an vile evil dirty bastard

That may have something to do with it also

[marylandblue]

7. That's what Nugent thinks

But his place in music history is nowhere near Crosby's.

[workinclasszero]

9. Yeah not even close

He was never in a band for long as he was/is such a massive dick I assume.

The only songs of his I would consider 'classic' are Journey to the Center of the Mind and Stranglehold.

That ain't much.

[Towlie]

21. Nugent claimed he didn't know Journey to the Center of the Mind was about drugs. (DUH!)

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/amboy-dukes-journey-to-the-center-of-the-mind/

Though drug connotations are obvious, the notoriously anti-drug Nugent claimed to be unaware of such things.

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=855

This song was written by the group's other guitarist, Steve Farmer, and Nugent claimed he had no idea it was a drug song; he thought it was about looking inside yourself.

[workinclasszero]

30. What a joke huh?

Everyone at the time knew full well that the song was about tripping on acid or getting high one way or another.

Perv republican Nugent's whole life is a lie, starting with that one.

[Ligyron]

42. At that time he called his band the Amboy Dukes and the fucker is from Michigan.

A distortion heavy no-talent jerk.

Stranglehold was ok tho'. Maybe Cat Scratch Fever.

Maybe...

[Ken Burch]

47. Yeah, then tend not to want dudes who do songs about hitting on underage girls.

Even in the Seventies, they weren't publicly cool about that.

Pretty sure Bill Wyman only got in 'cause he doesn't sing.

[EL34x4]

63. Being a vile evil dirty bastard has nothing to do with it.

Nor should it.

It should only be about the music. And the simple fact is, as Crosby stated, Ted Nugent's musical legacy is just not that strong.

If he were a vile evil dirty bastard who wrote timeless, classic music, he'd have a case to make. He didn't. He's a mediocre guitar player who wrote mediocre songs and is mostly regarded for his non-musical antics.

[spanone]

3. Mr. Crosby, you're way too kind.

[Paladin]

4. Oh, fuckin' BULLSEYE, Mr. Crosby!

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[MineralMan]

5. Nah. It's his complete lack of talent.

Being an asshole doesn't help him, either.

[Siwsan]

6. If only there was a Rock and Roll Hall of Shame

Pervy Uncle Crusty Pants could be a charter member.

[HughBeaumont]

8. The R&R HOF won't be catching Pants Shat Fevuuuur any year soon.

Seriously, though . . . . with songs like this, is it any wonder Uncle Ped gets snubbed?

[workinclasszero]

10. Bingo

He is a clone of Trump. A pussy grabber and a draft dodging chicken hawk.

[Miles Archer]

15. The worst offense, for me, was the "Love Grenade" album cover

I won't post it here...it's that bad.

The "censored" version featured a hand grenade with a pink ribbon on it. The original was Nugent at his worst.

It's pretty clear that induction into the R&RHOF isn't based strictly on accomplishments. Too many bands and performers got in with a slim resume, while too many legends still sit on the sidelines.

But when it comes to Nugent, he doesn't pass the board's "smell test." He's simply too toxic to be a member of that club.

[lpbk2713]

11. Aww, but his pal, the half-governor thinks he's good enough.

[jalan48]

12. Is this the Ted "I crapped in my pants and left it there for days to avoid the Vietnam War" Nugent?

Nothing says super patriot like dried shit in the underwear.

[Bob Loblaw]

46. Capt Shityerpants

nt

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

55. The RW elevates such lovely people.

Sorry. That emoji is gross...but appropriate.

[lastlib]

66. yep, the same Shittypants himself.

[PurgedVoter]

13. More Excuses By a Right Winger

When your call to fame is ripping off Deep Purples, "Smoke on the Water," because you figured you could rip off a British band and no one would ever figure it out, you don't really belong with artists who actually innovated and created music.

I also think that the political correctness issue would be a good thing. Hating and encouraging the hatred of the creators of an art form that you want credit for advancing is kind of a contradiction in logic.

On the positive side for Ted, If there is ever a Hatred Performance Art Hall of Fame, I think he is a likely candidate.

[Hoyt]

14. It's disappointing, but there are a lot of white wingers in music. R&R doesn't need this kind of

crud in the Hall:

[Miles Archer]

18. Guys like Alice Cooper and Sammy Hagar...

...are well-known Republicans, but for the most part, they keep it to themselves. I think Cooper may have done an interview or two where he discussed his political beliefs but I can't get past being a long-haired teenager blasting "I'm Eighteen" out of my car stereo.

I grew up with their music. Unless they got on a soapbox and started recording right-wing anthems, I wouldn't stop listening.

Hagar considers Toby Keith to be a bro...he's recorded with him, hangs out with him, jams with him often at his Cabo club. I turn my head the other way when it comes to that. But when it comes to Montrose or Chickenfoot or large chunks of his other work, it's only rock and roll, and I like it.

Even GE Smith, who's caught a lot of flak for leading the "House Band" that's performed at the RNC, has said "I'm a working musician, and it's a paying gig." Smith SMOKED on Buddy Guy's live album, "The Real Deal." I don't see Smith as an "image musician"...I know literally nothing about him, don't consider him to be a "personality." I see the RNC thing as "unfortunate"...but he sees the paycheck, it's his life and his career and not of great importance to me.

Nugent's a pig. He makes his beliefs part of the package. If he'd walk on stage, plug in his guitar, play "Stranglehold," shut the fuck up before and after the song, and leave the stage, I'd be OK with that. Talking about Obama, Hillary, and guns before and after the songs means that one or two times a year I pull out "Stranglehold" and that's all the Nugent I want or need.

[Hoyt]

19. I hear you, but I grew up with Woody Guthrie and prefer musicians like Steve Earle.

David Crosby also had a song titled, Music is Love.

[Not Ruth]

26. Alice is an incredible musician and supposedly one of the nicest and professional people in music

Sammy is supposed to be the opposite

[Miles Archer]

29. Sammy's basically a hedonist...

...so he's that and all that comes with it.

I read his autobiography. He's an eighth grader in a 69 year old man's body.

Some of his music is just as moronic as Nugent's, such as "Cruisin' and Boozin" and "It's The Pits."

First Montrose album is untouchable. Second album sounded like it was made by a band that wasn't gonna make a third album.

Solo career is hit and miss. His reunion with Ronnie Montrose on "Leaving The Warmth Of The Womb," from the post-Van Halen Marching To Mars album, is sheer greatness.

Van Hagar wasn't what I wanted to hear. Too many keyboard-driven ballads.

Chickenfoot was what I thought Van Halen was going to sound like, with the added benefit of Joe Satriani.

I'd call him a genial dick. He did stand up for Michael Anthony when Eddie slammed him, and i place a high value on loyalty.

[BobTheSubgenius]

16. One of my favourite Nugent stories - perhaps the only one, because there are precious few...

...you could even consider - was from the days of traveling shows. Several bands on the road together, playing sort of mini-festivals, and one of the bands he was touring with was Black Oak Arkansas. At the time, BOA had a guitarist by the name of Shaun Lane, quite possibly the greatest technical electric guitar player ever.

Jim Dandy got on stage with Nugent, as musicians were wont to sit in with other bands in random ways, and then made it impossible for Nugent to not let Lane onstage with them. A 15-year old Shaun Lane absolutely blew Nugent off the stage. And....another feud was born. Mangrum knew exactly what he was doing, and what the result would be. This according to JDM; I wasn't there, nor have I seen video of the event, but I have seen video of Lane playing in those days. He was shredding decades before anyone knew it was a thing. Nugent is competent, at best...and only for the crap that he plays, as far as I can tell.

[Lars39]

22. Had to look him up...here at 16

[tomp]

70. that's a very un-musical guitar solo.

very fast, to be sure, but who cares. lots of repeated notes, repeated patterns, harmonically and rhythmically limited. whammy bar dives thrown in when he tires of repeating notes.

to each their own, but to me...crap.

[Lars39]

71. Yep, fast fingers.

[Miles Archer]

23. Nugent never really progressed beyond the Amboy Dukes or his first solo album

Nugent never topped that first solo album, and that was released in 1975. I know "Cat Scratch Fever" went triple platinum, but there's no progression, no growth, nothing new. He fell off the cliff in 1980 after his last gold album, "Scream Dream." He followed that with another live album, which did OK, and his next studio album peaked at #52 on the U.S. charts and is considered one of his worst. Many forgettable albums followed, and he's largely followed now by people who want to hear "Stranglehold" and "Cat Scratch Fever" performed live.

[ProfessorGAC]

28. He Played The Same Solo On Everything for 35 Years

He also repeated LOTS of the riffs he already used and ripped off some good riffs from people better than him.

He's a hack.

I used to refuse to teach my students his solos because i told them they wouldn't actually learn anything from them.

[Miles Archer]

33. He re-wrote "Stranglehold" as "If You Can't Lick 'em" in 1988. Carbon copy.

He also got a songwriting assist on that album from Jon Bon Jovi. Didn't really help. Peaked at #112 on the U.S. charts.

[VWolf]

48. Wow. And Jon Bon Jovi, from what I know,

is a pretty liberal guy. Weird.

[ProfessorGAC]

58. Like I Said, A Hack

Even besides his politics, I loathe that puke!

[TlalocW]

53. My favorite Nugent story

I went to an autograph session for, "Kill It and Grill It," to give as a gift to my conservative, hunter (gun and bow) Brother-in-law. This was in Tulsa. He was playing a C-level performance hall, and the Borders he was in was packed. I went there with my then girlfriend who was from Colombia, and we annoyed a lot of his fans by talking in Spanish. When it finally got to be my turn, I stuck out my tongue at Nuge while he was signing my book, and my gf took a picture. He handed it back to me and said, "Enjoy that, pardner. There's a lot of wisdom in there." I stifled a snort, but Nugent heard it and got a pissed off look on his face, and I quickly left the line, trotted downstairs, and started laughing right before hitting the doors. I had to sit down because I had actually pulled a muscle from not laughing so I was laugh-crying on the sidewalk. I finally recovered, and we went to a restaurant and had lunch while reading passages out of the book like, "If you're not living life on the edge then you're not living." or some such dreck.

Anyway, I gave it to my brother-in-law on a visit to where a lot of family lives, and he thanked me profusely. I saw him a month later and asked him how he liked it, and he sighed, afraid he was going to offend me, and said, "I thought it was sort of weird drug humor that I wasn't getting until I saw him on television, and he really is that damn stupid. The recipes look good though." My equally conservative sister chimed in, proclaiming him, "All talk and no walk."

They're more country music fans and didn't know much about Nugent.

TlalocW

[underpants]

17. I know who's fault this is, it's the Damn Yankees

[Orsino]

24. They weren't the ones who seceded! n/t

[Bromwell]

20. I Can't stand him....and lets be perfectly honest, his music sucks, bigly. Its just bad....

[orangecrush]

25. !!!

[Sunlei]

27. Love David Crosby. Hope to see the Sky Trails tour and love the new album "Sky Trails"

https://www.davidcrosby.com/index up at top of page is the new album



Published on May 18, 2017
Music guest David Crosby performs "She's Got to Be Somewhere" for the Tonight Show audience.

[democratisphere]

31. Thanks for this!

Crosby is one of my all time favorites and love the new music. Nugent couldn't make it past round one of "America's Got Talent".

[Miles Archer]

35. My #1 favorite Crosby song is still "Laughing."

Pedal steel guitar courtesy of Jerry Garcia.

That whole ALBUM...California rock royalty.

Graham Nash & Neil Young

Joni Mitchell

Jerry Garcia (plus Lesh, Kreutzmann and Hart)

Kantner, Slick, Kaukonen & Cassidy from the Airplane

Gregg Rolie & Michael Shrieve from Santana

David Frieberg from Quicksilver

[Sunlei]

39. oh thats a great song too! I love ALL of his and their music. The best of humanity is our music!

Our Arts will live forever

[Bob Loblaw]

45. Great album

"You don't know, she might be the law."

[dalton99a]

32. Awesome.

[Plucketeer]

34. I never listened to that fruitcake

Not voluntarily anyways. As big as he is with the Right, he might be a good candidate for induction into the ASS HOLES HALL OF FAME

[not fooled]

43. He can go into

the museum the Nazis will set up after having their confederate sh*t booted from polite society.

That's the only hall he'll ever get into.

[NastyRiffraff]

36. Honestly, I never heard of Nugent until he ran his mouth

I have, of course, heard of David Crosby.

[progressoid]

37. Insane Clown Posse will get in before you Ted!

[Not Ruth]

40. The Juggalos are going on 18 years

https://www.wired.com/2010/11/ff_icp/

I count myself among their fans.

"I double-dare you: Swallow every pill in the bottle.

I double-dare you: Tongue-kiss a toilet seat at McDonald’s.

I double-dare you: Dig up a body and take it home.

Give it a sponge bath, and do what you want with it."

[C Moon]

38. I find Nugent simple and boring!

[Mr.Bill]

41. I saw him perform at his peak in the 70s,

Mediocre at best. There were bar band guitarists with more talent.

He hasn't sold music in decades. He sells his image, not his talent. And if you admire that image, there is something seriously wrong with you.

[PBass]

50. I saw him in 1977 at the Philadelphia Spectrum.

He wouldn't shut up. He said all kinds of stupid bullshit between songs, most memorably, something about a rifle "that could blow the balls off a bull moose at 100 yards!!!" or something like that.

Everybody cheered when he said that.

I was only 16 years old, but I was smart enough to know it was all embarrassingly stupid. And that concert ended my interest in Ted Nugent.

[BigmanPigman]

52. I wasn't allowed to go to that show (only 15) now I am glad.

I saw him on No Reservations with Tony Bourdain and Tony was cool despite the fact that, "Ted basically stands for everything I am against". Later he said he had never received so much hate mail from his fans until that episode aired.

[SonofDonald]

44. I read his interview back in the day where he talks about it

It was 1978 from what I remember, he stated what he had done to dodge the draft, living in the trunk of his car, having his pals piss on him, shatting of the pants and such.

At the time I was 19, I liked his music before I read the interview, ( I was 19 ) after I read it I never bought another album of his and have not heard any of his work since.

I find it beyond disgusting that he is a mouth piece for the right, talking about how great his party is, I just never knew to become a national hero to the cons you had to shit your pants and be dripping with piss.

But when you look at the faces of 45's cabinet it's obvious, yup, these people experienced the golden shower to get their jobs, look at bannon, preibus, kushner, and trumps boys among others.

They've been pissed on, probably daily, and you wondered what they used to slick their hair back with.

And then there's 45, he loves the golden fluid so much he had a movie made.

I bet he and nugent have already spoken at length on the subject.

[bora13]

51. that was the goto trick

for those in the know to get out of the draft.

nugent probably loved the smell, but other classic rockers of the day
showed up with a load in their skivvies as well.

[SonofDonald]

62. I didn't know about others doing that.

But it most likely happened as you said, I had just bought cat scratch fever I think it was but I was heading to the USCG training center in Alameda to begin my Coast Guard enlistment and didn't care for nugent after reading he dodged the draft of my Country that I had just volunteered to serve.

Yup, I read the interview on the way to boot camp and all I thought about nugent was that he's a massive girly boy.

With shit filled pants, my thoughts haven't changed, and to think that 45 welcomed him to our house with open arms.

Chickens of the same feather.

[PBass]

49. Ted Nugent hasn't made a good record for over 40 years now.

If you look at his career as a whole, there's a small span of good rock music, and then a huge span of really terrible garbage.

He's not even a one-hit wonder.

[LenaBaby61]

54. David's 100% correct.

It's bad enough that he's into pedophilia, and IS a draft-dodging, defecating in his pants racist chicken hawk, but beyond those things, Catch Scratch Fever back from 40 years ago is NOT enough to get him into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

[Raster]

56. Totally agree with David Crosby...

...Teddyboy Shittypants does NOT belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He. just. isn't. good. enough.

[neeksgeek]

57. I can sum up Nugent's career in one word. Crap!

[Heartstrings]

59. AOAA

"Asshole of all assholes" applies to him....

[Lotusflower70]

60. Lol

That's hilarious and true. Ted Nugent sucks ginormous ass.

[Warren DeMontague]

61. Now, the Rock and Roll hall of mediocre assholes, on the other hand

[brewens]

64. Blue Oyster Cult isn't in the HOF for some reason. That alone makes you wonder just what is

it for? In any case, if those guys aren't in there, no way in hell should Ted be.

[Miles Archer]

65. LONG list ahead of Nugent

BOC, as you mentioned, plus King Crimson, UFO, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Mountain, Procol Harum, Joe Walsh (as a solo artist), The Guess Who, Bad Company, Mott The Hoople, Ian Hunter, Roxy Music, Free, Todd Rundgren, Captain Beefheart...

[Still In Wisconsin]

67. Crosby's right. There's nothing special about Nugent.

Aside from his repulsive politics, I find his playing completely uninspiring- boring, really.

[jl_theprofessor]

68. There is literally

only one song I know by Nugent.

[alterfurz]

69. "Donald Trump is like Ted Nugent without the talent...

...but so is Ted Nugent." -- John Hartzell