HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » So what do you think the ...

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:02 AM

So what do you think the chances are the DOJ will investigate the Charlottesville PD..

and why they, from what I have been reading, stood down and refused to patrol the Synagogue, let armed and armored fascists show up to riot and murder?

13 replies, 2503 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 13 replies Author Time Post
Reply So what do you think the chances are the DOJ will investigate the Charlottesville PD.. (Original post)
Thomas Hurt Aug 2017 OP
SHRED Aug 2017 #1
muntrv Aug 2017 #3
safeinOhio Aug 2017 #2
YCHDT Aug 2017 #4
SweetieD Aug 2017 #5
Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #6
B2G Aug 2017 #7
muntrv Aug 2017 #8
B2G Aug 2017 #9
Thomas Hurt Aug 2017 #11
mia Aug 2017 #10
speaktruthtopower Aug 2017 #12
obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #13

Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:04 AM

1. Zero

 

Sessions is a not-so closeted white supremacist.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SHRED (Reply #1)


Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:05 AM

2. I may be wrong, but

isn't their boss, the mayor a decent guy?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:09 AM

4. +1, the pd said they were overpowered

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:10 AM

5. The police chief was black so I'd say the chance is pretty high. They'd love to make an example of

him.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:13 AM

6. From what I understand city leadership and the police chief are all fairly progressive people

 

I'm still trying to make sense of what actions they did or didn't take and who gave what orders there.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:15 AM

7. Didn't the Mayor tell them to stand down? nt

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:17 AM

8. But...but he prosecuted the Michael Donald case so he's not racist!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:20 AM

9. And it's Charlottesville, not Charlotte. nt

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to B2G (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:31 AM

11. Thanks, missed that typo.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:26 AM

10. The alt-right protesters were better armed than the Charlottesville PD.

The first and second amendments clashed in Charlottesville: The guns won.

As it turned out, the nightmare that unfolded on Saturday in this small college town involved a great deal more than an ideological clash and demanded far more police protection than was available. Dozens of white nationalists showed up toting semi-automatic weapons, as did some counter-protesters, making it all but impossible for police to intervene when violence erupted. In short order, peaceful protesters were forced to hide as armed rioters attacked one another with clubs, smoke bombs, and pepper spray.

Complaints abound that law enforcement officers looked on from the sidelines as the brutality quickly escalated into a crisis. The tragedy culminated in the death of 32-year-old Heather Heyer when a white supremacist rammed his car into a group of peaceful protesters.

Seen in isolation, Conrad’s order was grounded in solid First Amendment doctrine: Charlottesville could not, he ruled, relocate the racist demonstrators “based on the content of [their] speech.” This is textbook law, but one is left to wonder whether it takes into account armed white supremacists invading a city with promises of confrontation. Conrad’s decision seems to have been issued in a vacuum, one in which Second Amendment open-carry rights either swallowed First Amendment doctrine altogether or were simply wished away, for after-the-fact analysis. The judge failed to answer the central question: When demonstrators plan to carry guns and cause fights, does the government have a compelling interest in regulating their expressive conduct more carefully than it’d be able to otherwise? This is not any one judge’s fault. It is a failure of our First Amendment jurisprudence to reckon with our Second Amendment reality....

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/08/the_first_and_second_amendments_clashed_in_charlottesville_the_guns_won.html

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:35 AM

12. Good question

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 11:36 AM

13. Zero -- the Cville PD cannot handle a situation like this

The VSP and NG do need to be investigated, and I think the Cville PD and the UVA PD need to have the Feds come train them, for real.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread