I am SICK of the right bringing up Chicago!!!

[Garion_55]

They used to bring up Chicago as a slam to Obama. Now it's to defend the Nazis?

Two things could be done to help Chicago today. The first is more gun control around the states surrounding Illinois, the second is to end the drug war.

Fewer gang members with guns fighting over drug turf.

Does anyone want to guess which one of those options the right-wing supports?

How about neither because they don't give a crap. They don't want to find Solutions. All they want to do is sit back and b**** and piss and whine and moan and blame the left.

Aholes.

[Afromania]

1. funny how the same type of economic crush that lead them to

"vote for trump" aren't even considered for why parts of Chicago are they way they are. They aren't interested in getting any jobs for them.

[Warren DeMontague]

2. I think there's no way anyone's gonna get rid of the guns, there are just too many in this country

however, the point about the drug war is spot on.

Apparently no one remembers Al Capone.

[TeapotInATempest]

6. The problem for us is Indiana, specifically, though.

You can get absolutely any gun there. People can - and do - make a whole lot of money driving over the border and bringing them in.

[yagotme]

21. Which, in a nutshell, is illegal,

like murder is. Criminals are going to do criminal things. The guns banned in Australia are now made at home. A simple machine gun can be made in a small shop for not a whole lot of money.

[MyNameGoesHere]

22. That's quite true.

And also Americans are way to insecure to give up their blankies. They love that safe warm feeling of a gun shoved down their crotch. Happiness is a warm gun baby. Bang bang

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. Those fools don't know anything.

[TeapotInATempest]

4. Me too.

I love my city.

The thing is, they can't control us and they know it. Chicagoans have a special brand of, um, DGAF-ness to us.

[MountCleaners]

10. I get lectures from RWers all of the time about living here

Like, "how can you stand living there". Racist crap about how scary it is. Like, these people have never been here!

There is the Indiana / guns problem, and Chicago is a big drug-dealing hub. Nevertheless, the murder rate has gone down for the past twenty years like it has anywhere else - just not as quickly as it has in NYC and other cities.

[WinkyDink]

5. Murder usually is not part of an ideology. Charlottesville and Heather Heyer was.

[Wellstone ruled]

7. This is their focal point because

number one,Home to Barack Obama,and Raham Emanuel is the Mayor. The GOP dislikes Emanuel because he would not Cow-tow to the GOP. And of course,Obama and the GOP's racist bent and of Course,Trump's Birtherism.

[MichMan]

14. Don't see much love for Rahm on DU nt

[Wellstone ruled]

17. Rahm burned his bridges here years ago

with his Third Way crap. He did not serve Obama in a positive way. Never forgive that slug for backing a soft serve Rethug over Tammy Duckworth.

[Not Ruth]

8. Legalizing all drugs would deprive the gangs of their funding

Erasing all prior arrests would enable the ex gang members to find employment

[MichMan]

12. You want to erase all convictions including for assault, armed robbery and murder? nt

[Not Ruth]

16. Yes, because those are the ones that will find getting employment difficult

Arrests too

[Freethinker65]

9. Yet Trump, and the wealthy right, seem to enjoy investing in the "right" areas here.

As long as their investments are relatively safe from crime and violence they couldn't care less about other areas of Chicago.

[mucifer]

11. trump said he would end the gang problem in my city Chicago in ONE WEEK

gee that was unexpected he broke his promise . But, seriously we aren't even the worse when it comes to the murder rate:


http://www.businessinsider.com/chicago-violence-murder-capital-of-america-2017-1

[MichMan]

13. Maybe that is something the city can promote; hey at least we're not the worst for murders. nt

[BASE]

15. Wow. My city sucks on that chart. I hardly ever get murdered though.

Are these things put out just to smear liberal cities?

[Hortensis]

20. Lol. They don't put out shockingly high rural crime rates

when those are published in studies, do they? And Fox's constant "be very afraid" coverage somehow fails to warn the good white people of America's heartland, even those in very impoverished, drug-"infested" areas, to be very afraid when there's a knock on the door or they drive down those lonely roads...

[Leith]

18. If reichwingers Didn't Luuuurrrrrve Their Guns So Much

There wouldn't be so many in the wrong hands. Their precious NRA fights to the death (literally) for putting more guns out everywhere.

Remind them of that.

[HeartachesNhangovers]

19. I oppose capital punishment, and I support drug

decriminalization, but I don't think you can be too harsh in terms of prison sentences for people who commit violent crimes. In fact, if you kill someone, or try to kill someone, I think you should be removed from society permanently, with the caveat that if you convince the appropriate authorities that you are unlikely to re-offend - because you have served a few decades without problems, and have taken advantage of whatever training is available, and are probably going to find non-criminal employment if released - that you be considered for parole.

I really believe that if existing laws were enforced - and drugs were decriminalized - that we wouldn't have the crime problem we do today.

I lived in Oakland, CA for 11 years, and during that time if you committed murder, you were likely to get away with it, meaning that in most murder cases, not only was nobody convicted, but nobody was even arrested!

We've already exceeded the point of diminishing returns with gun control, and any new laws are just culture war - a way to poke at the NRA and gun owners.