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Arnold Schwarzenegger has a message for Two Scoops and the fascists (Original Post) QED Aug 2017 OP
Thank you. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #1
Wow! Highly recommend watching. gtar100 Aug 2017 #2
Now THAT is the way for Republicans to talk about Nazism and Neo-Confederacy and racism steve2470 Aug 2017 #3
Thank you bdamomma Aug 2017 #4
I love it!!!!! Pisces Aug 2017 #5
Sure didn't expect that - wow! Hope it goes viral quickly rurallib Aug 2017 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Aug 2017 #7
Help- James48 Aug 2017 #8
Here ya go. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2017 #45
GREAT. How can I get this on my Facebook page? BamaRefugee Aug 2017 #9
It's on his Facebook page too. Just go to the link and share it to your timeline. Miles Archer Aug 2017 #27
thanks! BamaRefugee Aug 2017 #37
It's also on Rolling Stone's site QED Aug 2017 #29
thanks! BamaRefugee Aug 2017 #38
Well done, Arnold. Aviation Pro Aug 2017 #10
pardon me, but today's g.o.p. is not the party of Lincoln. KG Aug 2017 #11
Not as funny, but along the lines of Vicente Fox's video messages. Brave, Mr. Terminator. George II Aug 2017 #12
Well said, I just wish more of Arnolds party embraced that sentiment rather cstanleytech Aug 2017 #13
Whoa! progressoid Aug 2017 #14
I've always said "we could have done a lot worse" MindPilot Aug 2017 #15
It's a shame his ex couldn't turn him into a Democrat. mwooldri Aug 2017 #17
Got a feeling MindPilot Aug 2017 #20
Arnold ran California's economy into the ground as governor (I believe it was a stolen election) diva77 Aug 2017 #33
He did bad things in CA. But it's not fair to bring up his father. pnwmom Aug 2017 #46
He did express admiration for Hitler at one time Major Nikon Aug 2017 #47
He made a comment in 1977, 40 years ago, when he was 30. pnwmom Aug 2017 #49
I presented a fact. I did not blame him for his father. Take a look at this article on the diva77 Aug 2017 #50
I didn't dispute your other comments. I just don't think who his father was belonged on your list. pnwmom Aug 2017 #51
We will have to agree to disagree. I think in his case, his roots are highly significant in trying diva77 Aug 2017 #52
Then it's only fair to consider what he said in his video. That he knew people pnwmom Aug 2017 #53
It's not a tumour! knightmaar Aug 2017 #16
K & R icymist Aug 2017 #18
Who knew? smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #19
Say what you will about Arnold. Dave Starsky Aug 2017 #25
2 sides found bora13 Aug 2017 #21
That Was Very Good Leith Aug 2017 #22
Ahnuld is more presidential than Trump ever was or will be! Initech Aug 2017 #23
Nice iluvtennis Aug 2017 #24
Very nice video. dalton99a Aug 2017 #26
I like this Ahnold. He was our Governator -- he made me mad the way he came in. But this man... Hekate Aug 2017 #28
Great message!! Nicely done Mr. Schwarzenegger. AgadorSparticus Aug 2017 #30
Wow ! This is so powerful, well thought out and presented. montana_hazeleyes Aug 2017 #31
very well written and delivered onetexan Aug 2017 #32
Well, okay. I'll forgive Ahhnohld for calling me a "girly-man" in light of this. lambchopp59 Aug 2017 #34
Great job! KewlKat Aug 2017 #35
Bravo, Arnold! camelfan Aug 2017 #36
Never thought much of Arnold .. Hieronymus Aug 2017 #39
Probably the best thing I've ever heard him say. Liberal In Texas Aug 2017 #40
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Aug 2017 #41
I don't often watch videos, but this one and the Vice embed mini-doc are very good. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #42
I have long despised Mr. Swchwarzenegger Skittles Aug 2017 #43
Surprisingly superb cp Aug 2017 #44
I'm sure he's loving the Fall of Trump, after Trump disparaged him in tweets. Payback. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #48

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
2. Wow! Highly recommend watching.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 09:13 PM
Aug 2017

Well stated reasons to not fall for the "both sides" bullshit. And remedies for those, umm... conflicted.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
3. Now THAT is the way for Republicans to talk about Nazism and Neo-Confederacy and racism
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 09:17 PM
Aug 2017

He hits it out of the park. I give him some points for that.

Response to QED (Original post)

James48

(4,435 posts)
8. Help-
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 10:08 PM
Aug 2017

That appears to be a twitter video.

But how can I share that in Facebook?

Anybody know if there is a YouTube version?

cstanleytech

(26,289 posts)
13. Well said, I just wish more of Arnolds party embraced that sentiment rather
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 10:23 PM
Aug 2017

than the fear, uncertainty and doubt they keep cuddling up to over people because they have a different religion or skin color.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
15. I've always said "we could have done a lot worse"
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 10:25 PM
Aug 2017

Arnold was a decent governor and he is fundamentally a good man.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
17. It's a shame his ex couldn't turn him into a Democrat.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 10:37 PM
Aug 2017

Maybe he will realize that the Republicans (at least the present party leadership) are beginning to have more in common with National Socialism than people would like

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
20. Got a feeling
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 10:44 PM
Aug 2017

that statements will be made by big names publicly leaving the party. (that's my fantasy and I'm sticking to it!)

diva77

(7,640 posts)
33. Arnold ran California's economy into the ground as governor (I believe it was a stolen election)
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 11:34 PM
Aug 2017

He tried to sell off public lands for private profit; he closed a large number of public parks due to his cruel budget cuts
He tried to defeat hard-won conditions for unions -- California nurses, teachers, etc.
He is infamous for groping women
Arnold has said many things sympathetic to Nazis; also, his father was an SS Nazi officer.

...just because Arnold spoke out against his fellow groper buddy doesn't forgive or excuse his abhorrent behavior

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
46. He did bad things in CA. But it's not fair to bring up his father.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 06:51 PM
Aug 2017

No one has control over who their parents are.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
47. He did express admiration for Hitler at one time
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:06 PM
Aug 2017

Most likely because he was influenced by his father. While I'm sure he has repudiated that sentiment by now it's still worth remembering.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
49. He made a comment in 1977, 40 years ago, when he was 30.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:24 PM
Aug 2017

And even then he spoke in the past tense -- of having admired him for coming from nothing.

So I'm going to cut him some slack.

diva77

(7,640 posts)
50. I presented a fact. I did not blame him for his father. Take a look at this article on the
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:33 PM
Aug 2017

association of Schwarzenegger with Kurt Waldheim.

I just wanted to put some balance into the thread praising Schwarzenegger. He was a TERRIBLE governor and he has a lot of character issues. Yes, good for him for speaking out against Dump; but it ain't enough...

Arnold's Nazi Problem
Why won't he repudiate Kurt Waldheim?
By Timothy Noah
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2003/08/arnolds_nazi_problem.html

SNIP

Here's a question Jay Leno forgot to ask Arnold Schwarzenegger when he announced his candidacy for governor of California on last night's Tonight Show: "Will you renounce your support for Kurt Waldheim?"

A little refresher course may be in order. Kurt Waldheim, a widely esteemed former secretary general of the United Nations, was running for president of Austria in March 1986 when it came to light that he had participated in Nazi atrocities during World War II. Waldheim had always maintained that he had served in the Wehrmacht only briefly and that after being wounded early in the war, he had returned to Vienna to attend law school. In fact, Waldheim had resumed military service after recuperating from his injury and had been an intelligence officer in Germany's Army Group E when it committed mass murder in the Kozara region of western Bosnia. (Waldheim's name appears on the Wehrmacht's "honor list" of those responsible for the atrocity.) In 1944, Waldheim had reviewed and approved a packet of anti-Semitic propaganda leaflets to be dropped behind Russian lines, one of which ended, "enough of the Jewish war, kill the Jews, come over." After the war, Waldheim was wanted for war crimes by the War Crimes Commission of the United Nations, the very organization he would later head. None of these revelations prevented Waldheim from winning the Austrian election, but after he became president, the U.S. Justice Department put Waldheim on its watch list denying entry to "any foreign national who assisted or otherwise participated in activities amounting to persecution during World War II." The international community largely shunned Waldheim, and he didn't run for re-election.

SNIP

Schwarzenegger's name remained on Waldheim's campaign posters. After Waldheim was elected, Schwarzenegger paid him a visit and was photographed with him. According to the New York Post's "Page Six" gossip column, Schwarzenegger was seen sitting beside Waldheim as recently as 1998, when the two attended the second inauguration of Waldheim's successor as president, Thomas Klestil.

SNIP

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
51. I didn't dispute your other comments. I just don't think who his father was belonged on your list.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:36 PM
Aug 2017

No one can control who their parent is.

diva77

(7,640 posts)
52. We will have to agree to disagree. I think in his case, his roots are highly significant in trying
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 07:40 PM
Aug 2017

to understand who he is and where he's coming from.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
53. Then it's only fair to consider what he said in his video. That he knew people
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 08:54 PM
Aug 2017

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who, after the war, were ashamed of themselves and had to live with that.


http://people.com/politics/arnold-schwarzenegger-neo-nazis-your-heroes-are-resting-in-hell/

“Your heroes are losers. You are supporting a lost cause. And believe me, I knew the original Nazis, because you see, I was born in Austria in 1947, shortly after the Second World War,” the former governor of California stated.

“And growing up, I was surrounded by broken men, men who came home from a war filled with shrapnels and guilt, men who were misled into a losing ideology. And I can tell you: that these ghosts you idolize spent the rest of their lives living in shame and right now, they’re resting in hell,” Schwarzenegger said.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
25. Say what you will about Arnold.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 11:20 PM
Aug 2017

He is TRULY a self-made man. He is what the Orange Terror and his minions wish they could be.

He truly understands what it's like for immigrants to come to this country seeking a better life.

I've never agreed with his party alignment, but I've never doubted for a minute that he loves this country and the ideal of success through hard work.

bora13

(860 posts)
21. 2 sides found
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 10:45 PM
Aug 2017

t-rump was right.
there are two sides to the violence.
one side is the people who learned the violence.
the other is the people who taught the violence.

together they make the dark side that killed heather and
worse if allowed.

Hekate

(90,667 posts)
28. I like this Ahnold. He was our Governator -- he made me mad the way he came in. But this man...
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 11:26 PM
Aug 2017

...I applaud him wholeheartedly. May his words of wisdom spread far and wide.

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
31. Wow ! This is so powerful, well thought out and presented.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 11:33 PM
Aug 2017

Thank you Arnold. I hope this is seen far and wide.

onetexan

(13,037 posts)
32. very well written and delivered
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 11:33 PM
Aug 2017

The terminator would have made a better POTUS than Agent Orange. For the first time i actually have some respect for Arnold.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
34. Well, okay. I'll forgive Ahhnohld for calling me a "girly-man" in light of this.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 11:37 PM
Aug 2017

Certainly not the worst insult I've had to withstand. Kudos, Gov S for this.

camelfan

(130 posts)
36. Bravo, Arnold!
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:00 AM
Aug 2017

I might not like your politics, but I have respect for your stance on hatred and your willingness to call it what it is.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
42. I don't often watch videos, but this one and the Vice embed mini-doc are very good.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 05:48 PM
Aug 2017

Schwarzenegger was beautifully direct and very clear.

Skittles

(153,153 posts)
43. I have long despised Mr. Swchwarzenegger
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 06:06 PM
Aug 2017

but this is a damn good message and coming from him, it really has to sting Trump - yes INDEED

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