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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBannon May Be Right. Removing Confederate Monuments Won't Help Democrats.
Even though Confederate monuments are an insult and should come down, the average person most like does not really care about removing those monuments. Remove probably just inflames the Trump and GOP base. The Trump election is a rejection of political correctness and multiculturalism and an embrace of open racist. Racism and bigotry runs much deeper in the US than we think. Most whites will not vote for Democrats even if they know they are being screwed royally by the GOP.
You have to wonder how deluded this country is.
greeny2323
(590 posts)You constantly post these negative diaries.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)kentuck
(111,092 posts)Moreso than it will help Democrats. We should not be deceived into thinking this is a small portion of Republican voters that agree with these alt-right groups. It is the majority of Republicans.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)FSogol
(45,484 posts)That's the difference between Democrats and Republicans. We can advocate for the right thing regardless of whether it benefits us personally or not. Repubs do everything out of selfish self-interest.
htuttle
(23,738 posts)Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)It helped people...this is different. The only thing that matters at the moment is winning in 18.
Vinca
(50,270 posts)Trump is trying to turn his outrageous press conference into statues. Don't fall for it.
Willie Pep
(841 posts)Trump probably saw that his support was waning so he has taken advantage of the statue issue to get them revved up again. One way he is doing this is by talking about left-wing radicals which will certainly scare his base. Most Republicans don't like fascists but they will see or hear stories about the "Alt-Left," Antifa, BLM and other left-wing groups and will say "the left is inciting these incidents, we wouldn't have a problem with Nazis if the left wasn't so radical." That is how Trump will try to spin this going forward and it might work.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)at the state level...and we should stay out of it. We can do people way more good by winning back the house in 18 and stopping Trump or whoever is president.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Take the statues down and put them inside a history museum. But do not place them in a position, within a public park, as if these people are American heroes.
Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)The increase in conversation and action when it comes to removing them is a reaction to electing a white nationalist President. Just as so many of those "monuments" were put up as a racist reaction to the escalation and successes of the civil rights movement.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)The sore-loser sons of the Confederacy have tangible monuments to their lost cause. Southern kids had parents that served in the Civil War and portrayed it as a noble undertaking, then grandkids had grandparents romanticize it, then as the Civil War soldiers died of old age, their kids and grandkids erected monuments to the fight to save the antebellum South, and they taught THEIR kids and THEIR grandkids their increasingly romanticized and sanitized version of history.
Lose the symbols from the public square, break or at least weaken the chains to the Confederacy. It's not just about knowing of the Confederacy, it's sympathizing and associating with the Confederacy generations later.
The romance of the Confederacy is an anchor that keeps the South where it is now.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)Republicans engage in some stupid ass shit, it is truly stupid or horrible, and we go nuts, but the math breaks against us because ...
Our 1/3 reacts out of common sense and decency, their 1/3 reacts even stronger out of simple minded hate the evil liberal dumb assedness and the "middle 1/3" does not understand it or pay enough attention and breaks to the side that they most align with in their minds (the patriotic, christian, white side ...).
It is so fin tiresome.
Maeve
(42,282 posts)It's not just about votes. It's about living up to the ideals that America is supposed to stand for (and so often doesn't)