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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 01:26 PM Aug 2017

Massive Cut In Social Security Staff Planned Offering 15,000 Employees Early Retirement.

Just On Hartmann. Looks like Trump & Company are going to try to cripple the agency. Could this same ploy be in the wings with all the other agencies. Offer early retirement to thousands of employees after making them miserable. Then let the federal governmental operations crash.

With a hiring freeze and attrition our federal institutions will not be able to do the job over time. We may now be seeing the 1st signs of how Trump and the GOP will dismantle the federal government over the next 2 years.

Making working conditions so bad that employees will be glad to leave early is a likely strategy.

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Massive Cut In Social Security Staff Planned Offering 15,000 Employees Early Retirement. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Aug 2017 OP
They should start at the top Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #1
Well it's not like there is a large group of baby boomers retiring at this time so who needs them?? lunasun Aug 2017 #2
They will have to allow them early access to medicare greymattermom Aug 2017 #3
However, if the economy crashes, early retirement may not be a wise choice. haele Aug 2017 #4
One positive thing about older workers is that many were on defined benefit plans. tonyt53 Aug 2017 #5

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
3. They will have to allow them early access to medicare
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 01:32 PM
Aug 2017

to get them to quit. And that's the start of medicare for all.

haele

(12,650 posts)
4. However, if the economy crashes, early retirement may not be a wise choice.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 01:47 PM
Aug 2017

If offered it, I'd be cautious and examine the environment before I made the switch. Especially if Social Security is under attack, and pensions/401K regulations are going out the window.
Even amongst government employees, there are very few people with enough in the pensions/401Ks to be able to weather a depression or recession any time soon. And you know "early retirement" cuts into long term retirement.

Best to keep working and getting a steady living wage - and socking away retirement - than have to compete for any sort of minimal wage work to keep one going until one actually has to start living off retirement and Social Security. My soon-to-be 80 year old and healthy mom has probably another 15 -20 years in her according to her genetics; lucky for her she has a paid off house in a "good" area of Albuquerque, and both her own pension and survivor's benefits to continue to live on.
She has enough she can still put money aside in an emergency household fund every month and still handle her medical issues and live comfortably on her own. She officially "retired" only eight/nine years ago to get her full 40 year (max pension) from the University of Washington (Dad retired two years previously from his school district job when he hit 70 with his full pension).

If they had both decided to retire early at, say, 65/63 - and started the middle class "retirement lifestyle", living off their moderate investments, pension money, the Roth IRAs, and Social Security early because they weren't getting a regular income, she'd be about collecting around $300 a month less than she is now - and that $300 less will start to make a big difference the older she gets.

Haele

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
5. One positive thing about older workers is that many were on defined benefit plans.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 01:50 PM
Aug 2017

SS was the secondary income. And that is a damned good thing. I pity those that are 55 and under though.

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