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RandySF

(58,823 posts)
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 09:31 PM Aug 2017

Gun-Wielding "Oath Keepers" Hired as Security at San Francisco Right-Wing Rally

SAN FRANCISCO (KTVU) - The fate of the controversial 'Patriot Prayer' rally in San Francisco August 26 remains up in the air as the park permit is still under review.

And now new concerns have arisen since it's come to light that the rifle-toting, camouflage militia-men known as the 'Oath Keepers' have confirmed they will provide security for the event.

Mayor Ed Lee has made it clear that he believes the Golden Gate National Recreation Area should revoke the permit, which is still in its initial phase.

"It's not just [about free] speech and I think those that are [saying that], are missing the point," said Mayor Ed Lee, who admitted that he has huge security concerns over the planned event.


http://www.ktvu.com/news/274786545-story

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Gun-Wielding "Oath Keepers" Hired as Security at San Francisco Right-Wing Rally (Original Post) RandySF Aug 2017 OP
That is a frightening development. madaboutharry Aug 2017 #1
Doesn't CA's law banning open-carry apply to "militia men"? pnwmom Aug 2017 #2
Chrissy Field is a federal park RandySF Aug 2017 #4
They are probably licensed armed security guards or off duty cops Not Ruth Aug 2017 #5
No, they hired the "Oath Keepers" RandySF Aug 2017 #7
Oath Keepers are made up of people that have taken oaths, like cops and military Not Ruth Aug 2017 #8
You skipped this RandySF Aug 2017 #10
Many of them are associates. And the others are largely retired and former -- and there's no way pnwmom Aug 2017 #15
When they run "wants and warrants" on these The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #3
Oath Keeper was sentenced to 30 years in prison for raping his own 7-year-old daughter dalton99a Aug 2017 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #6
Shades of Turbineguy Aug 2017 #11
Hell's Angels are not as whacko as Oath Keepers central scrutinizer Aug 2017 #12
You know, you're right! Turbineguy Aug 2017 #13
That's the first thing I thought of too KelleyKramer Aug 2017 #14
 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
8. Oath Keepers are made up of people that have taken oaths, like cops and military
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 09:53 PM
Aug 2017

People that do security side gigs regularly.

"The organization claims on its website that full membership is open to "currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, police, fire-fighters, other first responders (i.e. State Guard, Sheriff Posse/Auxiliary, Search & Rescue, EMT, other medical 1st responders, etc.) AND veterans/former members of those services," and that others who support the organization's mission can become associate members."

RandySF

(58,823 posts)
10. You skipped this
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 09:57 PM
Aug 2017

Oath Keepers is a far-right,[1][2] anti-government[3][4][5][6][7][a] American organization associated with the patriot movement and militia movement.[8][9] The group describes itself as a non-partisan association of current and formerly serving military, police, and first responders, who pledge to fulfill the oath all military and police take to "defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic."[10] It encourages members – some of whom are current and former U.S. military and law enforcement officers – not to obey orders which they believe would violate the United States Constitution. The organization claims a membership of 35,000.[11]


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_Keepers

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
15. Many of them are associates. And the others are largely retired and former -- and there's no way
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:16 AM
Aug 2017

to know how many are "former" because they didn't make the cut or were fired.

The "mission" is what makes them all questionable. We have the National and State guards and we don't need a group of self-appointed militia.

From the Southern Poverty Law Center, a trusted source (unlike the website of the far-right Oath Keepers):

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/oath-keepers

The Oath Keepers, which claims tens of thousands of present and former law enforcement officials and military veterans as members, is one of the largest radical antigovernment groups in the U.S. today. While it claims only to be defending the Constitution, the entire organization is based on a set of baseless conspiracy theories about the federal government working to destroy the liberties of Americans.

In Its Own Words

“Imagine that Herr Hitlery [Hillary Clinton] is sworn in as president in 2009. After a conveniently timed ‘domestic terrorism’ incident (just a coincidence, of course) … she promptly crams a United Nations mandated total ban on the private possession of firearms. … But Hitlery goes further, proclaiming a national emergency and declaring the entire militia movement (and anyone else Morris Dees labels ‘extremists’) to be ‘enemy combatants.’ … Hitlery declares that such citizens are subject to secret military detention without jury trial, ‘enhanced’ interrogation techniques, and trial before a military tribunal hand-picked by the dominatrix-in-chief herself. Hitlery then orders police, National Guard troops and active military to go house-to-house to disarm the American people and ‘black-bag’ those on a list of ‘known terrorists,’ with orders to shoot all resisters.”

—Stewart Rhodes, “Enemy at the Gates” column in S.W.A.T Magazine, April 2008

“John [Mc]Cain is a traitor to the Constitution. He should be tried for treason before a jury of his peers – which he would deny you. … He would deny you the right for trial to jury, but we would give him a trial by jury. Then after we convict him he should be hung by the neck until dead.”

–Rhodes, speaking in Tempe, Ariz., May 2015

Response to RandySF (Original post)

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
12. Hell's Angels are not as whacko as Oath Keepers
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 10:38 PM
Aug 2017

But neither should be given any semblance of authority. This won't end well.

KelleyKramer

(8,961 posts)
14. That's the first thing I thought of too
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 11:30 PM
Aug 2017

And just like with the Stones event, this is a recipe for disaster




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