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Avalux

(35,015 posts)
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:27 AM Jul 2012

George Will: "Romney is losing in a big way."

He doesn't understand why Romney is letting this drag on, why he just doesn't get everything out in the open and deal with it.

Mary Matalin just declared that the American people don't care about where Romney has his money or how much he's paid in taxes. They only care about their own bank accounts and their own tax rate.

Carville just piped up and said that once the furniture is mildewed, you have to throw it out. Bain is going to be a net loser for Romney from here on out.

Fun stuff on ABC with Georgie.

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George Will: "Romney is losing in a big way." (Original Post) Avalux Jul 2012 OP
With those three yakkin' at each other... WCGreen Jul 2012 #1
It's actually good. Avalux Jul 2012 #6
Releasing the tax returns won't create jobs? BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #12
It won't outsource them either treestar Jul 2012 #18
releasing the tax returns won't create jobs Jessy169 Jul 2012 #53
Who knew? Skidmore Jul 2012 #2
Hahahahahaha..... txwhitedove Jul 2012 #3
I like the analogy too. Would make an interesting ad. n/t Avalux Jul 2012 #4
She asked if Romney released his taxes, would it create 2 jobs chelsea0011 Jul 2012 #8
It could create a couple of Prosecutor and legal clerk jobs. n/t SDjack Jul 2012 #52
It's Carville's job to push things back in her.... msanthrope Jul 2012 #39
Eww eww eww. progressoid Jul 2012 #47
Yeah, it's good. Matthew Dowd really stuck it to mittens Kahuna Jul 2012 #5
Mary lives in right wing la la land. Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #7
the only way to explain it eShirl Jul 2012 #42
They're having a ball, mark my words. Two happy political animals. nolabear Jul 2012 #43
I saw them at the airport once... Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2012 #44
It's a well-paying game for them (with real world consequences for the rest of us) Tom Ripley Jul 2012 #49
The longer it gets dragged out, the better gollygee Jul 2012 #9
What I'm enjoying is watching the GOP argue amongst themselves. Avalux Jul 2012 #10
I really wish there was a stipulation on MSM talking head shows that... Spazito Jul 2012 #11
Thanks...some of you watch and report so I don't have to! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2012 #13
I usually don't watch, but couldn't help myself this morning. Avalux Jul 2012 #17
glad to hear it...will wonders cease! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2012 #20
You too! Avalux Jul 2012 #21
Why whatever could Carville mean? The Romneys hire help to handle coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #14
Still a good metaphor. Skidmore Jul 2012 #16
The only question is whether the furniture in this case is coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #30
the Romney's don't *have* mildewed furniture. They *are* mildewed magical thyme Jul 2012 #46
Oy! Will compared mittens to the Ford Edsal (a bad product) and Dowd Kahuna Jul 2012 #15
Carvilles moldy mildew furniture riverwalker Jul 2012 #19
Ewww....gross! Avalux Jul 2012 #22
I watched most of the morning shows today and it looks bad for Mittens. DCBob Jul 2012 #23
I agree. Meanwhile, Mitt is holed up in seclusion at his home (one of them). Avalux Jul 2012 #24
cowering under his silk sheets no doubt. DCBob Jul 2012 #26
He doesn't strike me as someone who would cower gollygee Jul 2012 #28
He's probably thrown a few good temper tantrums. Avalux Jul 2012 #29
You may be right.. DCBob Jul 2012 #31
thank dog he no longer has a dog. magical thyme Jul 2012 #48
Even Better...He's Blowing The Country... KharmaTrain Jul 2012 #45
Well, George, it's really not that tough to understand... JHB Jul 2012 #25
Oh Yes! Zyzafyx Jul 2012 #27
This is Romney's "Walter Cronkite Moment" lpbk2713 Jul 2012 #32
Let him keep fighting. At least his backers are creating jobs in the p.r. industry. snot Jul 2012 #34
NOTE to Mary Matalin: Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #33
Who in the hell is she trying to convince?? kentuck Jul 2012 #37
I'll take "What is herself" for $500, Alex. Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #50
Attack Rmoney on his strengths Mz Pip Jul 2012 #35
Democrats finally playing hardball just like Rove has done AlbertCat Jul 2012 #40
I am lovin' this! NoMittens Jul 2012 #36
He also referenced the "Edsel" when talking about marketing and it seemed Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #38
Yep; a loser. No matter how he's marketed, Romney is a loser. n/t Avalux Jul 2012 #41
Yeah Mary, Americans are too stupid to know that their own bank accounts, their own taxes are patrice Jul 2012 #51

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
1. With those three yakkin' at each other...
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:31 AM
Jul 2012

No thanks, but thanks for giving us the skinny on what goes on in that particular zoo...

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
6. It's actually good.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:34 AM
Jul 2012

Will just asked Matalin why Romney was ok with giving 23 years of tax returns to McCain, but won't release them to the American people. Her response (after a moment of trying to figure out what to say) was that releasing the tax returns won't create jobs.

Jessy169

(602 posts)
53. releasing the tax returns won't create jobs
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:17 PM
Jul 2012

That is hilarious! When totally confused and when there is simply no possible way to spin a believable lie, fall back on the tried-and-true talking point regardless of whether it has anything to do with the subject at hand or not. What a farce.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
2. Who knew?
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:31 AM
Jul 2012

Mitt has mildewed furniture. There has to be a way to work that into an ad.

BTW, someone is going to have to put Matalin's eyes back in her head by the time this panel is over. The more she tries to push BS the further her eyes bug out.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
8. She asked if Romney released his taxes, would it create 2 jobs
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:37 AM
Jul 2012

Nice to see she has a handle on the story and what it means.


But her and Carville on the same show sitting next to each other. Her looks at him when he speaks are priceless.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
39. It's Carville's job to push things back in her....
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jul 2012

I'm talking about her bugging-out eyes, of course....

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
43. They're having a ball, mark my words. Two happy political animals.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:49 AM
Jul 2012

If they were cuter they'd remind me of Tracey and Hepburn. Well, and had more charisma, though honestly I like them both in spite of the politics. They have more fun than anybody.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
44. I saw them at the airport once...
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jul 2012

They didn't speak to or acknowledge one another the entire hour they were just sitting across from us.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
49. It's a well-paying game for them (with real world consequences for the rest of us)
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:14 PM
Jul 2012

I detest both of those vile creatures

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
9. The longer it gets dragged out, the better
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:37 AM
Jul 2012

It just makes him look like more of a liar and a cheat. Eventually everything will come out, and it'll look bad, but the longer it takes, the worse it will look and the less time they'll have to try to attempt some damage control. I hope he keeps dragging his heels.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
10. What I'm enjoying is watching the GOP argue amongst themselves.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:38 AM
Jul 2012

Some are calling for Romney to come clean, while others are trying (foolishly) to defend him. For a party that's usually in lockstep, this is great.

Spazito

(50,326 posts)
11. I really wish there was a stipulation on MSM talking head shows that...
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:39 AM
Jul 2012

Matalin and Carvelle NOT appear on the same show at the same time. It makes the show suck, imo.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
13. Thanks...some of you watch and report so I don't have to!
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:40 AM
Jul 2012

I just can't put myself through it - haven't watched a Sunday morning talking heads show in at least 5 years.

But I do appreciate those of you brave enough (patient enough?) to dive in for the rest of us!

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
17. I usually don't watch, but couldn't help myself this morning.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:43 AM
Jul 2012

I just had to hear how these people would defend Romney. To my delight, Will isn't.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
14. Why whatever could Carville mean? The Romneys hire help to handle
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:41 AM
Jul 2012

their "mildewed furniture".

So I guess Carville was speaking figuratively

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
30. The only question is whether the furniture in this case is
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:10 AM
Jul 2012

Romney's tenure at Bain (iow, Romney's furniture) or Romney himself (the Republicans' furniture).



It's a delicious ambiguity worth savoring like a glass of fine wine.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
46. the Romney's don't *have* mildewed furniture. They *are* mildewed
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:08 PM
Jul 2012

furniture.

Time for the GOP to throw them out, but good luck with that. They're the 1%ers choice. It's their turn. They could probably buy the GOP stock, lock and barrel. And it's their turn.

Picture a cane coming across the stage, hooking Mitten's neck and dragging him kicking and screaming away....

Kahuna

(27,311 posts)
15. Oy! Will compared mittens to the Ford Edsal (a bad product) and Dowd
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:42 AM
Jul 2012

continues to bash mitt on both his secrecy (lack of a cogent plan). Mitt is getting hammered pretty bad.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
23. I watched most of the morning shows today and it looks bad for Mittens.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:57 AM
Jul 2012

Romney's defenders had no clear answers and some Republicans were even being critical of how he is handling this as did George Will. Not sure how this will play out but the last few days have been a killer politically for Mr Rmoney.

Kudos to the Obama campaign!

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
24. I agree. Meanwhile, Mitt is holed up in seclusion at his home (one of them).
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:00 AM
Jul 2012

That can't play well with his base; they want a pit bull to go after Obama and Mitt isn't it.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
28. He doesn't strike me as someone who would cower
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:06 AM
Jul 2012

He strikes me as someone who would be offended that someone would hold him to the same standards as everyone else. How dare anyone expect him to follow the law? The law is made for common people, not people like him. How dare anyone even ask him to explain himself?

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
29. He's probably thrown a few good temper tantrums.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:08 AM
Jul 2012

Can't you just see him....face red and eyes bulging; yelling and screaming and throwing things because things aren't going his way?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
31. You may be right..
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:12 AM
Jul 2012

Your descirption does fit his personality. I suspect he's extremely pissed and frustrated because he simply does not know what to do. Maybe instead of cowering.. he's beating his dog.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
48. thank dog he no longer has a dog.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:11 PM
Jul 2012

Seamus made a run for it, remember?

Hope he's not beating his horse. Husband horses have pretty thick hides and tend toward bomb proof, but even they have limits to what they can and should be expected to endure for a living.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
45. Even Better...He's Blowing The Country...
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jul 2012

Willard's gonna find our jobs at the Olympics in London...then go on a Nat Lamp style European vacation. He won't have to deal with the Bain mess...he'll be doing photo ops and issuing sound bite from afar. He'll look "so presidential".

The chickenshit is hoping he can stonewall it being found out that he's a tax cheat and still earns big coin from his Bain dealings. I hope he continues to avoid disclosure...or to defend vulture capitalism.

JHB

(37,159 posts)
25. Well, George, it's really not that tough to understand...
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:00 AM
Jul 2012

Republicans have been pretty successful at squelching scandals by simply putting up a brazen front and stonewalling until the media is afraid of looking like they have "liberal bias" and Demcorats are afraid of looking "partisan" and let the matter drop.

Mitt did it himself, successfully, on this very subject, when he ran for governor of Massachusetts and won.

Now that dynamic is breaking down, but he's still depending on the castle walls to keep the mob out.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
32. This is Romney's "Walter Cronkite Moment"
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:13 AM
Jul 2012



Just like it was all over for LBJ when Uncle Walter said we are losing the Viet Nam war.


Give it up Mittens, it's no use. Throw in the towel
now and save a lot of money and disappointment.


Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
33. NOTE to Mary Matalin:
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jul 2012

The American people DO care about their own bank accounts and their own tax rate.

The ALSO care about where Romney has his money or how much he's paid in taxes, because UNTIL HE PROVES OTHERWISE, he is carrying the stench of a man who has SOMETHING TO HIDE.

Mz Pip

(27,440 posts)
35. Attack Rmoney on his strengths
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:25 AM
Jul 2012

Isn't that what Karl Rove taught us to do?

Rmoney's strength is that he was a successful business man so that where the focus should be.

I'm so glad to see the Democrats finally playing hardball just like Rove has done for the Republicans. It's kind of funny to hear them whining about it, how we should leave Mitwit's business career alone, that it isn't relevant.

Of course it's relevant. It's what he's been running on. It's his supposed strength and that's what we are bringing to light.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
40. Democrats finally playing hardball just like Rove has done
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jul 2012

Except Dems aren't lying and making stuff up. Dems aren't taking a situation and turning it on its head to make it appear like something else. Dems are not "swiftboating" at all. They are just pointing out facts. So it's really NOTHING like Rove.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
38. He also referenced the "Edsel" when talking about marketing and it seemed
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:46 AM
Jul 2012

to me that he was calling Rmoney a political Edsel.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
51. Yeah Mary, Americans are too stupid to know that their own bank accounts, their own taxes are
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jul 2012

affected by the BIG players.



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