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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs the pardon of Sherriff Joe a nail in the coffin to the Trump Presidency?
Will the pardon of Sherriff Joe hurt the Republican candidates for AZ US Senate, AZ Governorship, and AZ Attorney General?
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)AJT
(5,240 posts)trueblue2007
(17,242 posts)musicblind
(4,484 posts)Everything is relative, even facts have alternatives, and 35% of the country would support this man if he shot someone on 5th Avenue...
Luciferous
(6,086 posts)they just let him continue to do awful ridiculous things with no consequences whatsoever.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,314 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)oasis
(49,429 posts)Implying the judge was biased.
johnsonsnap
(56 posts)proves he stands with the police and against the people.
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)nothing surprises me at this point
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,600 posts)I don't hold any hopes about the pardon issue.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Hamlette
(15,412 posts)If Sandy Hook didn't bring down the NRA, all hope is lost.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)and even that might not be enough. His coffin, like his heart, is made of stone and will probably take a truckload of nails.
haveahart
(905 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)They'd probably use it as a way to try and claim the whole Russia investigation is a frame job. I actually hope it doesn't come out, and that Mueller just nails the asshole with a solid case built on straightforward evidence.
They can release the video afterwards, just to piss on his political grave.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)And he keeps climbing back out.
I have no confidence this will do him any real damage. It's going to take much more to reach the tipping point, I'm sorry to say. Nothing's going to change unless and until we take back one of the chambers of Congress.
Brother Buzz
(36,479 posts)We live in weird times.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Many smarter Republicans were adamantly against a Trump presiduncy because they knew he was going to crush the credibility of the party and do irreparable damage. It certainly seems as if he is doing exactly that. The silver lining is that when Trump finally swirls the bowl for the last time, he's going to take a lot of other turds with him.
radius777
(3,635 posts)attracting at least some latino support.
As long as Dems can make Trump and Arpaio the "running mate" of every GOP candidate, it will likely greatly hurt them with (even conservative) latinos.
Establishment Repubs know that they can't survive forever on the angry white vote, and that Trump's white nationalism is dooming the party with PoC for a generation.
Despite the 2016 loss (due mainly to Comey/Russians), the Obama coalition is still the ascendant coalition in American politics.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)They are simply insuring their own destruction because instead of becoming more progressive and going after new emerging demographics, they are relying on a strategy of chasing a larger share of a shrinking demographic.
raccoon
(31,128 posts)gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)deplorables think this is bad?
LeftInTX
(25,621 posts)Doodley
(9,151 posts)He can't work with Republican lawmakers and he knows many do not respect him. He can't get legislation passed, so he has to fall back on actions that he can do on his own as a show of power.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)fallout87
(819 posts)in that state oppose this? They voted for the orange doofus in the general.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)There are a lot of roadblocks to overcome, such as access to voting.
cilla4progress
(24,783 posts)Difference of opinion here!
Does tRump go down, or is the end nigh?
Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)They're behaving as if they do.
They (and we) observe tyrannical, fascist behavior patterns in Trumpy. They know that Trumpy will flout the Rule of Law whenever he chooses. They know that Trumpy will bully and berate them and anyone else who gets in his way. We all know this. Some of us predicted 18 months ago that Trumpy would be doing exactly what he's doing now: go after the GOP when they didn't do exactly as he wanted. We knew that Trumpy would seek vengeance on ANYONE who crosses him because he's a despotic tyrant who is attempting to be Dictator of the US, and he's coming very close.
And the GOP? They're either scared shitless or they're invested in converting the US into a fascist dictatorship. Either way, they're destroying themselves as a political party and as a legislative body. And they're doing nothing about any of it.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Hell, 45's yahoo-base think he's literally God's gift to them. They're in love with their "tough-talking," rude and crude figurehead. For all their non-stop chatter about freedom, patriotism, liberty, etc., they've flipped those ideals on their head, Orwell-style.
There are a large number of nutcases on the right who would like to harvest some liberal souls, if you know what I mean.
still_one
(92,455 posts)who voted against the Civil Rights Act.
John McCain voted against setting aside a day to honor MLK.
We all saw the disgusting way Brewer behaved toward President Obama, so I am not so sure
LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)No OP, unfortunately it's not even NEAR the nail in his treasonous, racist/KKK-loving, mentally-deteriorating, putin-fueled, GOP voter-suppressed/gerrymandering, Mueller-investigated "presidency."
Kablooie
(18,644 posts)Trumps idiot base calls all the shots for the Republican party.
Only if his base was horrified would it make any difference.
All Republicans now allow Trump's base to decide everything.
They depend on the lowest, most ignorant common denominator, rabble to decide everything for their party.
Voters with an education and a considered opinion can be discounted as useless.
Only the screaming, pitchfork wielding, imbeciles are to be listened to if you are a Republican.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Presidents often pardon at the end of of their term
yuiyoshida
(41,867 posts)He is the Republican's useful idiot
Vogon_Glory
(9,133 posts)We can hope. I don't see Thump pardoning Arpaio as hurting support among his white support.
I don't know about the effects among Arizona's Latino voters. Do they turn out and vote like their California counterparts? Or do they sit on their backsides and let crazed Tea Party Republicans choose their state's elected officials like their Texas counterparts?
DrDan
(20,411 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,098 posts)It could be A nail in his coffin, but not the final one. That one is likely one of many that is, or will be sitting in a box on Robert Mueller's desk. This pardon is small potatoes compared to what things we already know about.
As for hurting republican candidates in Arizona, that's hard to say. IIRC, Arizona has gone "blue" at times, such as for Bill Clinton in 1996. And, they had a Democratic governor in Janet Napolitano as recently as 2008. But, then you look at the batcrap-crazy state legislature... That state is a bit politically schizophrenic, so who the hell knows how this will all affect things. The fact that protesters far outnumbered Trump's audience in Phoenix does provide some hope that they're swinging back toward sanity.
WhiteTara
(29,728 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)the country.
dawg
(10,624 posts)Arizona is, perhaps, our best chance at flipping a red state blue. The craven nature of Brewer, Arpaio, and the like, is not representative of the moderate nature of the state's electorate.
Dulcinea
(6,671 posts)As long as McConnell & Ryan's wet dream of dismantling the social safety net is a possibility, the GOP will prop him up. They were put in office to deliver huge tax cuts for the wealthy, & their campaign donors expect a good ROI.