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RandySF

(58,797 posts)
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 01:41 PM Aug 2017

North Carolina County Official Indicted For Rigging The 2016 Election For Donald Trump

A former elections worker in North Carolina was indicted by a grand jury on Monday for purposefully changing ballot results during the March 2016 primary election.

Richard Robert Rawling, 59, of Cary, was charged with felony counts of failing his duties and obstruction of justice after allegedly skewing the vote tallies to help elect President Trump and other conservative candidates.

Rawling allegedly ordered subordinates to run provisional ballots through tabulators more than the correct number of times, and then made manual changes so that the results of the provisional canvass would match the tally of total ballots.

Elections board officials found the smoking gun during an audit of primary results in April.

According to the State Board of Elections and Ethics Enforcement, Rawling’s actions were a desperate attempt to hide his tampering with results. Rawling resigned less than a month after the primary results were tallied.


http://www.rawprogressive.com/2017/08/22/breaking-north-carolina-county-official-indicted-rigging-2016-election-donald-trump/?utm_content=buffer8edbc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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North Carolina County Official Indicted For Rigging The 2016 Election For Donald Trump (Original Post) RandySF Aug 2017 OP
Only an isolated incident, I'm sure dalton99a Aug 2017 #1
Never have to use the Sarcasm thing" busterbrown Aug 2017 #19
!!! Alice11111 Aug 2017 #28
Another pardon on the way! Chasstev365 Aug 2017 #2
My thoughts exactly ...as well. nazikkk guy who who was on tv crying after he was arrested RestoreAmerica2020 Aug 2017 #51
Iraq had negoldie Aug 2017 #61
Nope. State charge. shanny Aug 2017 #64
No worries. I'm sure he'll get a pardon too. Glassunion Aug 2017 #3
So Trump had help in rigging the election in both the Primary and the General election too? Botany Aug 2017 #4
Let it be the first of many. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #5
All the people caught voting twice were Trump supporters underpants Aug 2017 #6
Any reason bucolic_frolic Aug 2017 #11
It happened in ANY locale Plucketeer Aug 2017 #65
I guess us Dems should start bitching about all the voter fraud going on by white Repugs. kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #15
Is that surprising? LisaL Aug 2017 #16
Repub Ironies...like the ones pissed off at Dems because Alice11111 Aug 2017 #32
It turns out Jared Kushner and Sean Spicer are also registered to vote in two states yortsed snacilbuper Aug 2017 #49
Everything he has accused The Other of doing,in reality, he or his cohorts have done themselves. fierywoman Aug 2017 #7
It's Called Projection Ccarmona Aug 2017 #26
Electioneering bucolic_frolic Aug 2017 #8
Republicans need to train their election riggers better or more will get caught. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #9
Seriously, that's what their unabashed reaction is to this Alice11111 Aug 2017 #33
Throw away the key! world wide wally Aug 2017 #10
On a mission from gawd. Hulk Aug 2017 #12
Probably more than is generally acknowledged. We know Pence is in that group.. annabanana Aug 2017 #34
Could have been a really good story, but... TomVilmer Aug 2017 #13
Could have been a really good story, but... LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #35
Reality is so boring... TomVilmer Aug 2017 #44
You should really try to learn something about the political system. LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #47
Well then! Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #60
this. nt TheFrenchRazor Aug 2017 #53
LOCK HIM UP! WinkyDink Aug 2017 #14
nothing to see here folks...seriously, we will never have another legit election in this country. nt TheFrenchRazor Aug 2017 #17
Yep. kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #20
You could be right. defacto7 Aug 2017 #58
If we had a fair playing field, (without gerrymandering, suppression), the Dems would have won kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #18
Tip of the Drumptberg. kairos12 Aug 2017 #21
To paraphrase Josef Stalin, it doesn't matter how many votes are cast; no_hypocrisy Aug 2017 #22
"To paraphrase Josef Stalin, it doesn't matter how many votes are cast; LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #48
How many did he bus in for that? Initech Aug 2017 #23
KGOP cannot win on merit AllyCat Aug 2017 #24
What an utter fool. Changing the count of one district couldn't affect the national result. Kablooie Aug 2017 #25
Lock him up. Sneederbunk Aug 2017 #27
Eh, it could have bearsfootball516 Aug 2017 #30
with the help of SCOTUS Alice11111 Aug 2017 #36
It's their motto, "Do unto others before they do to you." dae Aug 2017 #29
Is Raw Progressive a legitimate news site? red dog 1 Aug 2017 #31
Mediabiasfactcheck doesn't hold it in very high regard bearsfootball516 Aug 2017 #37
Thanks for posting that link red dog 1 Aug 2017 #43
Most Repubs will believe that BS without logically thinking Alice11111 Aug 2017 #38
"Most Repubs will believe that BS"? red dog 1 Aug 2017 #39
The post that I responded to... Alice11111 Aug 2017 #42
What's really BS is the Raw Progressive headline red dog 1 Aug 2017 #45
Yes. The stunning line about no evidence followed the Alice11111 Aug 2017 #46
They can't win if they can't lie, cheat, or steal. Initech Aug 2017 #40
More info on this from Snopes Captain Stern Aug 2017 #41
And there is the real fraud mcar Aug 2017 #50
First this was during primaries. Second, it proves all those calling for return to paper ballots Hoyt Aug 2017 #52
Now that is election fraud! sinkingfeeling Aug 2017 #54
Here's what Snopes has to say: moonscape Aug 2017 #55
There is more sober coverage of this elsewhere. Qutzupalotl Aug 2017 #56
but but but...both sides do it Chipper Chat Aug 2017 #57
thousands & thousands of tiny districts across America, hardly ANY were audited. Sunlei Aug 2017 #59
Putin will probably give him the same Russia friendship award he gave Tillerson. nt SunSeeker Aug 2017 #62
Fox news reported on the story, R Merm Aug 2017 #63
Gawd they are insufferable LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #66

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
19. Never have to use the Sarcasm thing"
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 03:48 PM
Aug 2017

when referring to Republican Criminals.. Its always true.... I laughed immediately when I read your reply.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
51. My thoughts exactly ...as well. nazikkk guy who who was on tv crying after he was arrested
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 06:38 PM
Aug 2017

Last edited Mon Aug 28, 2017, 03:34 AM - Edit history (1)

for charlottesville rally incidences, not sure of all charges, but he was they guy that was spouting off to a reporter about the workings, beliefs of these groups.

Why am I not shocked regarding the manipulation of votes...we need to go back to paper ballots--archaic sure, yet may only guarantee that your vote is counted.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
4. So Trump had help in rigging the election in both the Primary and the General election too?
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 02:02 PM
Aug 2017

But really whay about Hillary's emails?


underpants

(182,788 posts)
6. All the people caught voting twice were Trump supporters
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 02:08 PM
Aug 2017

Last edited Sat Aug 26, 2017, 03:29 PM - Edit history (1)

all the people,caught with more than one registration were also Republicans.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
11. Any reason
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 03:21 PM
Aug 2017

to think this didn't play out in a similar manner in other closely contested states?

It's a big thing in small cities and rural areas when billionaires come to town.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
65. It happened in ANY locale
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 10:54 AM
Aug 2017

where the spores of racism had lain dormant for decades (or less) - waiting for just the right climate in which to sprout.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
16. Is that surprising?
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 03:42 PM
Aug 2017

"Despite a rash of recent polls showing the presidential race narrowing significantly, Republican nominee Donald Trump is not letting up with his message that the election might be rigged, telling supporters not to trust mail-in ballots and vote again if they are suspicious of their vote not being counted."
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article111519972.html

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
32. Repub Ironies...like the ones pissed off at Dems because
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 04:32 PM
Aug 2017

they got to keep their healthcare coverage.

fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
7. Everything he has accused The Other of doing,in reality, he or his cohorts have done themselves.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 02:35 PM
Aug 2017

EVERYTHING!

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
8. Electioneering
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 02:37 PM
Aug 2017

should be professional non-partisan

What we have is what? Varies from place to place? One party is supposed to keep an eye on the other? But it's a cliquish volunteer occupation.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. Republicans need to train their election riggers better or more will get caught.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 03:13 PM
Aug 2017

Wouldn't want people to realize what happened in Fall 2016.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
12. On a mission from gawd.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 03:27 PM
Aug 2017

I just have to wonder how religiously motivated these criminal minds are. "It's all for the 'greater good'."

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
34. Probably more than is generally acknowledged. We know Pence is in that group..
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 04:43 PM
Aug 2017

I fear that they have convinced Trump that he is, indeed, anointed.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
13. Could have been a really good story, but...
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 03:27 PM
Aug 2017
... Rawling is accused of having mishandled and altered ballot totals and is charged with obstruction of justice, a felony. However, based on the statement released by the state Board of Elections, he is accused of what essentially appears to be improperly avoiding an administrative headache for himself rather than attempting to “rig” a national election. ...
http://www.snopes.com/north-carolina-elections-worker-trump/

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
35. Could have been a really good story, but...
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 04:43 PM
Aug 2017

But my ass & Screw Snopes.

He STILL possibly did something WRONG & He's should suffer for this. And, WHO makes up this Board of Elections? But then again, even if he did something wrong, tRumputin will only pardon him if he can or he'll flat out get away with it.

I keep seeing people saying "I can't wait until the 2018 elections, because we're gonna vote them (GOP) out." Sure, riiiiiiiiight. As long as you have thuglicans controlling almost every aspect of the voting in this country from collecting to counting votes all across this country, I don't see HOW Dems vote the bums out, especially if "they" don't want them out. And, as long as the GOP can voter-suppress/gerrymander, they'll keep a leg up on Dems in these elections.

Lastly, I see NOTHING from this purposely understaffed Dept. Homeland Security and surely nothing from tRump whose putin's puppet signaling that they'll put anything in place to STOP the ruskies from interfering into our next election (2018).

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
44. Reality is so boring...
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 05:27 PM
Aug 2017

You should really try to learn something about the political system - that could make it much easier to separate BS stories from the real weird Trump stuff.

WHO is Board of Elections? It is a bipartisan group partly appointed by the Democrats and Republicans... That is why US elections normally can be trusted. The counting is OK, but the political system is totally fucked up.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
47. You should really try to learn something about the political system.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 06:03 PM
Aug 2017

Excuse you, but I know enough about the political system to know that I don't trust thuglicans as far as I can throw a Mack Truck to collect and tally votes fairly. They control and run almost EVERY facet of voting across this country, and they aim to KEEP that advantage by any means necessary so they can STAY in power. And with this LAST GE, you had the ruskies interfering and thuglicans voter-suppressing and gerrymandering the hell out of Democrats. FACT.

You keep on trusting in and believing that this current crop of thuglicans count Dem votes fairly though

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
58. You could be right.
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 01:23 AM
Aug 2017

After their rigging failure in Ohio in 2012, they won't allow the same mistake again. We have to get them in their weakest spot. Where that is I don’t know.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
18. If we had a fair playing field, (without gerrymandering, suppression), the Dems would have won
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 03:48 PM
Aug 2017

every Presidential race since Reagan, I'll bet. Wish someone would do a study. The Dem. candidate would have won Florida every time if it weren't for the millions of felons who have a life-time ban on voting and for the crazy gerrymandering going on.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
48. "To paraphrase Josef Stalin, it doesn't matter how many votes are cast;
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 06:06 PM
Aug 2017

it's who counts those votes."

Well, according to SOMEONE in this thread, the votes ARE being counted fairly and squarely by thuglicans

Kablooie

(18,631 posts)
25. What an utter fool. Changing the count of one district couldn't affect the national result.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 04:05 PM
Aug 2017

But it could land him in prison.

A typical Trump idiot.

Of course Trump may pardon him.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
30. Eh, it could have
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 04:28 PM
Aug 2017

Look at Florida in 2000. One state decided the whole election, and it came down to literally a handful of votes. One district really can change everything if the election is close enough.

red dog 1

(27,797 posts)
31. Is Raw Progressive a legitimate news site?
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 04:28 PM
Aug 2017

There are no links, no reporters, no "Who We Are", no "About Us" sections?
Some of the articles list a source, but many (including this one) do not list ANY source.
Who runs this site?

Raw Progressive's title for this story, and the title of this thread is:
"North Carolina Official Indicted For Rigging The Election For Trump"

According to an Associated Press article dated August 21, 2017
EX-ELECTION WORKER CHARGED WITH ALTERING 2016 PRIMARY VOTES

"The Durham County elections board said in a report last fall that more than 1,000 provisional ballots were thought to have been mishandled during the March 2016 primary election,
but the miscount didn't affect the primary's outcome.
State elections board officials said Monday Rawling's actions didn't affect any races and there was no evidence he altered ballot counts to support a particular political party or candidate."
http://www.wcti.com/news/state/election-worker-charged-with-altering-2016-primary-votes/607462655

red dog 1

(27,797 posts)
43. Thanks for posting that link
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 05:11 PM
Aug 2017

Although it was so dark, I had to use a magnifier to read what they said about Raw Progressive.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
42. The post that I responded to...
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 05:08 PM
Aug 2017

"The Durham County elections board said in a report last fall that more than 1,000 provisional ballots were thought to have been mishandled during the March 2016 primary election,
but the miscount didn't affect the primary's outcome.
State elections board officials said Monday Rawling's actions didn't affect any races and there was no evidence he altered ballot counts to support a particular political party or candidate."

I thought after I posted my reply...hmmm...that might be confusing. I guess it was.

red dog 1

(27,797 posts)
45. What's really BS is the Raw Progressive headline
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 05:30 PM
Aug 2017

"North Carolina County Official Indicted For Rigging The 2016 Election For Donald Trump"

As you've noted from the AP story:
"There was no evidence he altered ballot counts to support a particular party or candidate."

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
46. Yes. The stunning line about no evidence followed the
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 05:41 PM
Aug 2017

factual statement that he did it, two different ways, which was evidence in itself.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
52. First this was during primaries. Second, it proves all those calling for return to paper ballots
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 06:56 PM
Aug 2017

are wrong that it will prevent vote tampering more than additional safeguards on electronic voting.

Qutzupalotl

(14,306 posts)
56. There is more sober coverage of this elsewhere.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 07:56 PM
Aug 2017

If you google the guy's name, you can find MSM articles about this. They say there is no evidence that he altered totals to favor one particular candidate, but that he was indicted on obstruction of justice:
http://www.wral.com/former-durham-elections-worker-charged-with-obstruction-of-justice/16896050/

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
59. thousands & thousands of tiny districts across America, hardly ANY were audited.
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 02:14 AM
Aug 2017

I don't trust states and local officials & local 'volunteers' to manage/supervise an honest election. To many bad apples.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
66. Gawd they are insufferable
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 01:58 PM
Aug 2017



And I noticed they are not allowing comments on that story so no one can enlighten readers there either. As I as going to. But there are facebook and other share icons. You just know that Fox droids will simply assume its the evil Democrats and spread the word.
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