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Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:38 AM

So, the Friday news dump worked, I guess.

Storm Has completely dominated all news coverage.
Which is understandable because of the severity. I'm sick about what Houston is facing.

Guess the White House finally made a good public relations move with the timing of Arpaio pardon.
Hopefully, Trump won't get away with this outrage, though.
I'm still angry about it.

But, right now, Texas should be uppermost on our minds.
Let's hope the rain stops soon and healing can commence.



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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:59 AM

1. Latino voters in the region will not forget the Arpaio pardon. It's likely

to have a negative impact on the GOP for a few election cycles. Remember California's Prop 187 back in the mid-1990's? It took a long time for the Republican Party to rid itself of that ugly tattoo.

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Response to oasis (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:07 AM

3. I hope so.

Something has to move the 35% that still support him and those that never vote.

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Response to oasis (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:15 AM

4. Arizona will not forget...

...It was our families, friends, and neighbors that the Arapaio Klan terrorized.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:03 AM

2. it didn't go unnoticed to every judge in America

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:27 AM

5. Morning Joe is talking about it now...so did all the Sunday news shows...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:30 AM

6. Good

I've been watching CNN....

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:34 AM

7. When the BLOTUS goes to Texas, the light will again shine on his failures.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:35 AM

8. Arpaio isn't immune from State prosecution

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions-concerning-executive-clemency#0

"Does the President have authority to grant clemency for a state conviction?

No. The President’s clemency power is conferred by Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Constitution of the United States, which provides: “The President . . . shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.” Thus, the President’s authority to grant clemency is limited to federal offenses and offenses prosecuted by the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia in the name of the United States in the D.C. Superior Court. An offense that violates a state law is not an offense against the United States. A person who wishes to seek a pardon or a commutation of sentence for a state offense should contact the authorities of the state in which the conviction occurred. Such state authorities are typically the Governor or a state board of pardons and/or paroles, if the state government has created such a board."

Question is whether the Repug AZ governor & AG is willing to do anything about prosecuting this maggot arpaio. Might work if AZ residents make alot of noise and politicize it.

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Response to onetexan (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:49 AM

10. Neither is Trump RE: RICO

No worries, NY AG Schneiderman is on it.

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 09:57 AM

18. Yes, thank goodness for Schneiderman

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Response to onetexan (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 08:17 AM

16. Shhhhhh!

I doubt Trump knows that yet.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:40 AM

9. I disagree

You're correct that news of Hurricane Harvey dominated the news this weekend. It should! Tens of millions of people are affected by this storm and the ramifications of it will continue for months, if not longer. A major US city is underwater and that's big news.

Meanwhile, there was coverage of Trump's pardon of Arpaio and there were many news articles about Gorka's ouster. Admittedly, TV news was singularly focused on the storm but TV is not a reliable source for detailed news anyway.

I think (and hope!) that most people throughout our governments are seeing how dangerous Trump has become. I don't think judges will be impressed with Trump's pardon decision as it undercuts the judicial process for a man who not only broke the law, he violated the Constitution. I don't think most members of both Houses of Congress are impressed with Trump's threat to shut down the government if he doesn't get his wall funded. Trump doesn't understand the complexity of a shut down and the damages it can bring but Congress does know and they don't want anything to do with that. Lastly, the White House staff have seen Trump on a daily basis and I think they must see that he's nuts. Regardless, with the combination of senior staff shake-ups and under-staffing in the West Wing, the White House has had very few accomplishments.

Little by little, Trump is isolating himself as the nets of the Mueller and Congressional investigations close around Trump and his family. He won't survive the coming storm.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:52 AM

11. What worries me is that other sheriffs will be encouraged to behave like that.

Believe it or not, Sheriff Dart in Chicago is pretty good. He is trying to get as many programs and volunteers into the county jail here. It does make a difference. He has also been fighting hard to get non violent prisoners who did low level petty theft or trespassing out of the jails because they can't afford a relatively low cost bail. That actually ended up passing into law. There were many people staying in jail for years waiting for their court date for trespassing or shoplifting.

Chicago has a bad reputation for police violence and looking the other way for police torture. But, in our county jail at least it isn't so bad.

Guess what, when you have more educational programs and volunteers the recidivism goes down. When you torture and kill people the recidivism goes up. Plus, you know, the right thing to do.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #11)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:25 AM

13. Segment on '60 Minutes' last night about Dart! I like the guy!

Very innovative!

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Response to lastlib (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:26 AM

15. I will have to look it up thanks.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:00 AM

12. The pardon is not something that would really hurt Trump anyway. Presidents

have an almost unlimited power to pardon.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:26 AM

14. He will pay a political price for it, though.

As he should!

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Response to lastlib (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 28, 2017, 08:50 AM

17. What price will he pay? Those who like him don't care about this.

The GOP could not care a less. I just don't see a political price...hope I am wrong.

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