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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGuess who owns this domain name: tRumpTowerMoscow.com
Take one guess. I dare you.
You're wrong if you said our savior Hillary Clinton. It's not something you'll find on her private E-mail server, but if the M$M did their job, it's in plain sight. And its still active through 7/1/2018.
Registrant Contact
Name: General Counsel
Organization: The Trump Organization
Mailing Address: 725 Fifth Avenue, New York New York 10022 US
Phone: +1.2128322000
Email:generalcounsel@trumporg.com
Registrar Expiration Date: 2018-07-01
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Domain Name: TRUMPTOWERMOSCOW.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1508992055_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 2017-06-28T20:25:39Z
Creation Date: 2008-07-17T20:24:44Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-07-01T03:59:59Z
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Registrant Name: General Counsel
Registrant Organization: The Trump Organization
Registrant Street: 725 Fifth Avenue
Registrant City: New York
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Registrant Postal Code: 10022
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Tech Organization: The Trump Organization
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Link to tweet
TexasTowelie
(112,168 posts)And the site was registered in 2008--that doesn't conform with the rest of the story.
FM123
(10,053 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)ffr
(22,669 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 30, 2017, 03:02 PM - Edit history (1)
Edit: 2008 is consistent with the fact that:
tRump Explored Moscow Deals Not Once, Not Twice, But 3 Times In A Decade - TPM
Plus, it was Jr. who said this in 2008:
Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets, Trumps son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia. - WaPo
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)Exposing yet another Trump lie is still a work in progress.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)a given, that if Trump has denied something, he's lying. I noticed that long ago, and have pretty much used that guideline ever since. It's never let me down.
NCcoast
(480 posts)Anything in particular happen on that date or shortly before?
Quid pro quo?
"As the Florida real estate market begins to crash, Trump sells a Florida residence to a Russian oligarch named Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million. The transaction is considered to be the biggest single-family home sale in US history. Rybolovlev never lived in the house and, since then, it has been demolished. Three years earlier, Trump had bought the home at auction for $41 million."
http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/
ffr
(22,669 posts)Russia's king of fertilizer lined tRump's pockets in a move to shelter money during a divorce from his wife. It's a web that ties all these players together and there's lots and lots of money involved. Like you say, 2008 was during the republican great recession. tRump, as a real estate mogul during a real estate market collapse, was probably strapped for cash. Russia to his rescue!
yonder
(9,665 posts)them skeletons are turning into a graveyard. good find. nt
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Would be wonderful to bury this nightmare of a political party along with His Orangeness.
Louis1895
(768 posts)so no one else buys for a parody site or other nefarious activity.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)In 2008 Trump may have mulled a Presidential run, but he was in business first and foremost.
It is common practice among savvy corporations to buy multiple domain names to protect their intellectual property.
However this also depends on whether there are many TrumpTowerXXX domains registered about the same time. If there were many similar domains at a similar time, evidence would point to an IP protection policy and not necessarily an expansion to Russia or any of the other places registered.
But if there isn't a bunch of other registrations then signs point to plans for a Trump Tower Moscow.
So when Trump said he had no business in Russia, he's lying. Though I don't know with him what is true and what is not.
Louis1895
(768 posts)I think I fell down a rabbit hole:
TRUMPTOWERMOSCOW.RU was registered the day after the election (2016-11-10).
I tried to find information about the Registrant, Rostislav Babel, but could not link him to the Trump Organization. It is curious he speaks Russian (LinkedIn page) and is a venture capitalist.
If you go to http://trumptowermoscow.ru, you see a "Website Coming Soon" placeholder.
Google Rostislav (Ross) Babel and you will find he is a partner with Gary Mikhaylov. http://gnpdevelopment.com/about.html (same picture but only placeholder text describing the two men).
Is Gary Mikhaylov related to Sergei Mikhailov, a Russian Mafia boss? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Mikhailov_(businessman)
or
Sergei Mikhailov, a senior officer of the Federal Security Service, or F.S.B., the main successor agency to the K.G.B. who American officials say oversaw last years election hacking has been arrested in Moscow on charges of treason? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/world/europe/sergei-mikhailov-russian-cybercrimes-agent-arrested.html?mcubz=1&_r=0
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kentuck
(111,094 posts)his longtime personal lawyer?
I would imagine that he knows a lot?