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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 06:54 PM Aug 2017

Take that, Washington! Texas looks to nullify federal laws

I can't see how gay marriage would fit under this proposed law. But then again, so much I do not understand.





Arizona already has approved a similar policy, and other states want to follow suit

By The Associated Press
April 28, 2017 at 12:17 am


By Meredith Hoffman, The Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas — Republicans who control Congress and the White House have promised to slash the size of the federal government while easing regulations on guns, the environment and energy production. But in the nation’s largest conservative state of Texas, it may not be enough.

A proposal in the GOP-led Legislature would allow Texas to ignore federal law and court rulings and forgo enforcing national regulations. Arizona already has approved a similar policy, and other states want to follow suit, despite the Constitution’s Supremacy Clause, which stipulates federal laws and treaties take precedence.

State Rep. Cecil Bell’s Texas Sovereignty Act allows for overriding federal laws through the same process as passing a bill. First a legislative committee, then the whole Legislature, would vote for nullification, and then the governor would sign his approval.

“This is an effort to establish how states can say, ‘No, you can’t do that in our state,” said Bell, a Republican from Magnolia, about 45 miles north of Houston.
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One key target could be legalization of gay marriage
. In 2015, Bell introduced a bill prohibiting Texas from enforcing court orders sanctioning gay marriage — a pre-emptive strike against the landmark Supreme Court decision later that year. The bill died on the last day to pass House legislation, but only amid Democratic stalling tactics................

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Girard442

(6,070 posts)
3. Wouldn't they love it if my state (NY) passed a law saying we could write off any debt to Texans?
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:01 PM
Aug 2017

States are supreme, you're sayin'? You guys wanna play? OK, let's play. You want your dough? Yeah, well, come up here and get it, tough guys.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
4. Like the donald, cons have the minds of children.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:03 PM
Aug 2017

They hate it when the govt helps black people or liberal states, and they DEMAND help when they need it.

A child thinks like that.

But like I said, IF we survive at all we will have a civil war or we will, trust me, break off into more than one country. Have to, no other way to do this.

Unless you/me are willing to let women die in back alleys, blacks to be owned again at worst or not be allowed to vote at best, gays to have no rights at all , etc etc etc.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
8. Looks like the battle lines are being drawn for the next Civil War.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:08 PM
Aug 2017

Wonder if those idiots forgot 600,000 people died in the last one? Percentage-wise, that would be roughly equivalent to 6 million today.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
11. Well, they think and act like children. I think we can count on them
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:15 PM
Aug 2017

taking their guns out, shooting us patriots at will.

Someday I see that happening.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
6. +1
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:06 PM
Aug 2017

That's what nullification could bring about. You secede - you lose.

Our constitution isn't an a la carte menu.

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
2. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb.............and stupid too..
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 06:58 PM
Aug 2017

A proposal in the GOP-led Legislature would allow Texas to ignore federal law and court rulings and forgo enforcing national regulations.

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Constitution is supreme law of the land...... exact words......................

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any ..."

That is what the Constitution says.................................analysis..............................Article VI, Clause 2

The Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution (Article VI, Clause 2) establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the supreme law of the land, It provides that state courts are bound by the supreme law; in case of conflict between federal and state law..........this is from wikepedia .....................here is a link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause

The courts have historically ruled that U.S. Laws, over rule state law.....Now, I am not a lawyer, but the lawyers here will be able to give proof to this....For example...when an Amendment was adopted allowing women to vote, that Amendment superseded all state laws that may have kept women from voting....In my humble opinion, this is not rocket science. Easy to understand..I think...........19th Amendment

Ratified on August 18, 1920, the 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution granted American women the right to vote—a right known as woman suffrage. At the time the U.S. was founded, its female citizens did not share all of the same rights as men, including the right to vote.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
14. Do a thought experiment: what would the United States look like under this doctrine?
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:43 PM
Aug 2017

Probably just a bunch of independent little countries, sort of like the Balkans. Nice peaceful neighborhood throughout history, no?

Glorfindel

(9,729 posts)
7. Fine with me. They also should refuse any assistance from the evil Federal Government
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:08 PM
Aug 2017

say, in times of crisis. Like a hurricane, for example. "Don't Mess with Texas! Yeee-haw!!"

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
9. You got it...Glorfindel.................as a matter of principle..............
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:14 PM
Aug 2017

refuse.. "assistance from the evil Federal Government"....

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