Dear DU Admin, please consider limiting Hillary vs Bernie infighting threads

[RiverStone]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by NH Ethylene (a host of the General Discussion forum).

With Hillary's book - What Happened - soon to be released, the H vs B dissing is ramping up like a coming storm.

In the past post primaries on DU, I believe Skinner set a date and posted after (said date) all infighting would either cease or move to it's own section outside the main discussion forums.

Winning in 2018 and beginning to reverse the fascist, bigoted, and radically unstable/incompetent regime of tRump needs all hands on deck and a laser beam focus.

Thanks for your consideration!

[saidsimplesimon]

1. May your voice be heard by all. Thank you

[emulatorloo]

2. Best advice I have is avoid DU or maybe the internet for a while.

Hillary-hate is a very strong high apparently, twitterverse will def go off the rails.

[Old Vet]

42. +1000

[Chasstev365]

3. AGREED X 10,00O

[RiverStone]

11. Thanks Chasstev365!

[fleur-de-lisa]

4. Thank you, RiverStone!

I've been trashing those posts left and right. Feel like I'm playing whack-a-mole (and losing badly)!

[cwydro]

5. Me too!

It's insane.

Circular firing squad here daily.

[RiverStone]

8. You're welcome fleur-de-lisa!

[cwydro]

6. Happy to rec this, but maybe post it in the admin forum as well!

K and r.

[TubbersUK]

7. K&R n/t

[Kaleva]

9. Use the auto trash by keyword feature

[Iggo]

15. Trash word "Hillary" on Democratic Underground?

Then again, I had to trash word "Kennedy" once a few years back. Can't remember why. But I do remember thinking to myself (and probably posting something to the tune of) "This is nuts."

[Kaleva]

29. I've had Bernie and Sanders trashed for several months

Might have to do the same for the keywords Hillary and Clinton. For maybe a couple weeks anyways.

[LostOne4Ever]

10. K&R nt

[Generic Other]

12. Just trash the threads

It makes DU look sane again.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

14. Looking sane is good..........actually being sane is better! n/t

[workinclasszero]

24. I have been lately

The Bernie/Hillary war is really getting me down.

I am scared shitless that 2018 will be a terrible defeat for the democratic party because of this endless war.

[RiverStone]

58. I get it workinclasszero, thanks for sharing

Your fear about 2018 makes sense; I have it too. Most of us could not fathom tRump winning the electoral college (well, with help via the Putin).

We hopefully can agree to disagree about the rights and wrongs of 2016, move on, and put all energies into defeating any and ALL tRump enablers!!

[nocoincidences]

55. I'm a Newbie here....

How do I trash a thread?

I see how to trash a forum, but not a thread.

[Iggo]

13. 2018...Anyone who's not helping is hindering. (n/t)

[flibbitygiblets]

45. Exactly! I figure these infighters are really trolls anyway.

Just re-opening old wounds, distracting, dividing, not offering anything constructive to help Dem's win in 2018 and beyond....

isn't that the definition of a troll?

[Iggo]

46. Dividing, dividing, dividing...

[CousinIT]

16. I agree. n/t

[Lifelong Protester]

18. K & R

[samnsara]

19. or how about limiting it to its own room? The Boxing Ring....

...because folks are gonna want to discuss HRCs book eventually

[TygrBright]

20. What RiverStone sez. Please. n/t

[Chakaconcarne]

21. yes...please!

[ancianita]

22. Thank you. Too many continue to indulge in this without respect for post-election rules, and

keep getting away with it.

I know because I'm a judge to too many alerts against those who criticize them. Daily. This amounts to trolling in the name of uniformity.

Democrats:

We can have unity without the dogged press for uniformity.

All hands on deck is right.

Everybody in, nobody out.

[RiverStone]

23. Well said! Thanks ancianita

We can have unity without the dogged press for uniformity.

Damn right!!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

25. Lol. Like that will happen. You should post in the "ask the administrators" forum.

You will probably get an answer by Halloween.

[liquid diamond]

65. If at all

[Ilsa]

26. I'm sick of the debating. It resolves nothing.

I don't think we can ban them, but I really don't see the point. If another person hasn't accepted your point of view (either side) by now, it won't happen.

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. Yeah, since McCain just announced he is now on board to kill ACA and millions of us

we have no time for anything other than literal survival.

BOY do elections have consequences.

McCain backs Graham-Cassidy ObamaCare repeal effort

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/349462-mccain-backs-graham-cassidy-obamacare-repeal-effort

[RiverStone]

32. I hear ya Eliot!!

Short version:

I worked full-time in education for almost 20 years with OK, but covered benefits via the state. I (and many others) were laid off after a major school bond got voted down. I then worked 3 PT teaching gigs, but did not receive any medical benefits. In 2015, I started losing feeling in both feet/legs and experienced lots of pain over the course of the year. Turned out I needed a (lumbar) fusion in 2016 to stabilize my spine. I am grateful beyond measure for the ACA and thankfully, can walk and play again (with a few restrictions).

Yes, literal survival is on our minds. tRump makes daily headlines with his bullshit lies and drama, though all the while other actions off the radar (per your McCain link) are happening to erode our civil liberties, environment, and quality of life.

Working together to combat the insanity is a must.

[4139]

28. Hmm, is it rehashing 2016, or positioning for 2020?

The recent spat is the contents of Hillary's new book... is that reshaping 2016, or is she positioning for 2020?

I think she is positioning for 2020 and she is trying to whip people into line

[eleny]

30. K&R

[Kablooie]

31. Why not create a special topic where they can all go squabble together in private?

[marybourg]

33. They don't WANT to squabble in private.

They are hoping to sway the rest of us by constantly "stirring the pot".

[LakeArenal]

48. Exactly...

[zipplewrath]

34. Used to be a forum

Right after the election, they had a forum for "post mortem". They shut it down. At this point they need a forum called "it ain't over" or something.

[Duppers]

35. Yes, please. Thank you. nt

[ChubbyStar]

43. There are plenty of negative posts about Bernie still here

I supported Hillary but your claim is just not true.

[RiverStone]

49. The frequency of "saying bad" about Bernie and Hillary will increase...

...exponentially on DU once her book comes out (minus action to divert the circular firing squad). I'm sure the moderators have better things to do than constantly trying to keep this wildfire from spreading.

B vs H battles on the left are loved by the right! So, lets not give them what they want!

[burrowowl]

37. Agreed!

Please look to winning 2018!

[ProudProgressiveNow]

38. K&R nt

[Tikki]

39. Again, when ever Democratic voters, here, start talking about viable....

Democratic candidates for future offices this gnashing, rehashing starts.

This could very well be a tactic to keep this site unfocused and distracted
on any progress in solidifying a message and learning more about our future leaders.

Like the movie said..."The only way to win the game is NOT to play"..let those
posts sink to the bottom unanswered.

Tikki

[Mountain Mule]

40. I second that emotion with all my heart!

[RiverStone]

53. Gratitude Mountain Mule

With ya on that!

[mvd]

41. I'm not interested in re-fighting the primaries here

While I don't agree with what Hillary wrote, there was a lot of time to get the arguments out. I understand why the book has rekindled things, but my focus here will be on resisting Trump.

[Stonepounder]

44. Yes, Yes. Please. The primaries are over and so is the general election.

Continuing to do an autopsy 10 months later is only going to really stink! Lets look forward, not back!!

Either, set up a Topic where all those who want to keep refighting HvB can argue their little heads off, while the rest of us work on the best way to move forward.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

47. DU needs to appoint a cen·sor

1. an official who examines material that is about to be released, such as books, movies, news, and art, and suppresses any parts that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.

synonyms: expurgator, bowdlerizer; More
examiner, inspector, editor

2. (in ancient Rome) either of two magistrates who held censuses and supervised public morals.

verb: censor; 3rd person present: censors; past tense: censored; past participle: censored; gerund or present participle: censoring

1. examine (a book, movie, etc.) officially and suppress unacceptable parts of it.
"my mail was being censored"

synonyms: cut, delete parts of, make cuts in, blue-pencil, redact; More

[Cryptoad]

50. May I suggest a new DU Forum Named "the Ole Shit Pot"

all this Hillary Sanders shit stirring be contain in this and only this form.
Let stir it up all they want.

[broadcaster90210]

51. I ignore 'em but ... yeah.

I don't see how if further's out goal here.

[TryLogic]

52. Yes. Stop the damned divisivness.

[relayerbob]

54. Yes, please

[DonViejo]

56. Talk to the juries that allow the OP's to remain. Admins have already addressed the issue.

[defacto7]

57. K&R

[Egnever]

59. Good luck with that

Skinner is a rabid Clinton fan. The lopsided hides are all one needs to recognize that. I post critically of both of them but it is the Clinton posts that get hidden every single time. I am getting to the point I am beginning to doubt the usefulness of this site it is becoming an echo chamber. It was always an echo chamber but now the echo can't even be challenged when it is clearly nonsense.

There are certainly times when an echo chamber is nice but when it starts completely twisting reality it has past it's usefulness.

[Native]

60. K & R

[MarianJack]

61. I completely agree with this.

While I genuinely detest Back Bench Bernie, I'll be keeping my powder dry as far as he's concerned.

Up here in Maine I'll be focusing on getting a Democratic governor, hopefully our AG Janet Mills, to replace the "glorious" Paul LePage.

In 2020,I am supporting the Democratic nominee whomever he or she may be. At this juncture, I most like Sens. Gillebrand and Harris, I'm intrigued by Gov. Cuomo and, if our nominee is a male, I hope that Sen. Duckworth is on the ticket. That being said, I don't care if we nominate a dried up sack of monkey shit. The monkey shit will STILL be better than Donald Trump.

I hope we can all come together to accomplish this goal. I remember the divisions of 1968 and 1972. they were NOT pretty and look what we got from it...Nixon and Reagan. No friggin thank you!!!

PEACE!

[Lil Missy]

62. Current events do not equal past Primaries. Sorry, but Bernie doesn't get a blank check.

[stuffmatters]

63. Yes, please, it's just destructive to OUR Party. Both Trump & Putin LOVE IT.

Keeping up this Hillary vs Bernie rancor, keeping this idiotic chew toy in play, hasn't this even been mentioned as something Putin's bots
are milking for every last second they can keep it going?

[liquid diamond]

64. Looks like the report button

isn't working out for the bullies.

[LiberalLovinLug]

66. Agreed!

Kick and Rec bigly!

I have been wondering for awhile where ARE the admins, or Earle and Skinner? Refighting the primaries has been going on way too long. And its usually OPs against Bernie, and everyone that supported him.

Every time Trump trumps himself, we get at least one "thanks Bernie" OP.

Or every time someone posts something positive Bernie does, or some public statement against Trump, we get the thread flooded with counter posts about what a terrible person he is. Or that they won't even take him seriously until he officially joins the Dems.

And gawd help us if Bernie dares to bring up criticisms of the Democratic party, because, you know, they've been losers everywhere across the country for years now. Hell hath seen no fury.

People....Bernie is our ally. He works with us. He is a candid and loud voice against Trump. He is still wildly popular. We can use that...even if you don't personally like the man. I swear, way more percent of elected Democrats are willing to work with him than on DU. Time to stop projecting Hillary's loss on Bernie or his supporters because he dared to run on a message that appealed to more people than you expected it to.

[Delmette2.0]

67. Please stop the Hillary / Bernie posts.

No one is going to convince anyone to see things there way. The elections are over, period. If either one wants to run again in 2020 we should start with a clean slate.

[Demsrule86]

68. No, As long as one follow TOS, it should be acceptable. Hillary has a right to be heard. And we

should be able to discuss it.

[7962]

69. Well, if her book is going to be discussed, then criticism will have to be expected.

unless DU has become a "dont criticize HRC under any circumstances" site. Which it never has been before. Just stay within the rules.

[anneboleyn]

70. I agree! It seems that five new threads pop up every single day, and we have FAR more immediate

issues to consider with Trump. It's driving me crazy to see so many threads devoted to this topic, and so many DU members distracted by something that is in the past now.

[Chemisse]

71. Locking

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