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Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:08 AM

 

John Conyers introduced a Medicare for All bill in January

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and got over 100 House Dems to co-sponsor. Why does no one mention this and why does Conyers not get any credit?

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Reply John Conyers introduced a Medicare for All bill in January (Original post)
Trumpocalypse Sep 2017 OP
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demmiblue Sep 2017 #2
LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #11
demmiblue Sep 2017 #13
lapucelle Sep 2017 #51
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Trumpocalypse Sep 2017 #22
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virtualobserver Sep 2017 #3
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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:13 AM

1. Because he is boring? And a Democrat.

Someone will be along long shortly to tell us why it is so much better when Bernie introduces the plan.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:21 AM

2. People have.



This is revisionist history.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:13 AM

11. Not just a few times BUT A TON! Nt

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Response to LostOne4Ever (Reply #11)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:26 AM

13. Yep, all it takes is a simple site search.



I am glad that Conyers and Sanders have formed a united front:

Health care and jobs will be the focus of Conyers, Sanders town hall in Detroit

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/22/john-conyers-bernie-sanders-townhall-detroit/590697001/


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Response to demmiblue (Reply #13)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:22 PM

51. I hope that the bill introduced this week

is a senate version of Conyers' HR 676. We won't know until the bill is itself is posted on the congress.gov website.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/676

Conyers has introduced his bill in every session of Congress since 2003. The organization Medicare for All has been fighting for the Conyers bill since 2007.

http://www.medicareforall.org/pages/HR676

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #13)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 03:36 AM

84. Perfect example of uniting around a common cause; rehashing 2016 only distracts from the task @hand.

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Response to LostOne4Ever (Reply #11)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:49 AM

22. Not a ton.

 

Just two threads all this year.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:38 AM

16. Not revisionist history

 

Just asking a question.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #16)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:40 AM

18. Sure. n/t

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #18)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:50 AM

23. Sorry

 

that you're so threatened by a simple question.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #16)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:37 AM

31. It seems to me to be a bit rhetorical. I cold be wrong.

But I have at least known some of what Conyers has done in the past

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Response to pangaia (Reply #31)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 04:18 PM

40. I only read about it yesterday

 

when doing a search about Sanders' bill. I was surprised there was so little discussion of it here.

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Response to pangaia (Reply #31)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:43 PM

61. I think you are putting it mildly.

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Response to Susan Calvin (Reply #61)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:59 PM

69. Hey, how have u been?


Yeah, i tried to be careful, and still...🙄

You aren't anywhere near Houston r u?

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Response to pangaia (Reply #69)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 12:20 AM

74. Yes, I am,

But I am OK.

Thanks for asking.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:22 AM

3. Because Conyers is not a national figure.....

 

Bernie only achieved this because he ran for President.

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:37 PM

58. Do you have any idea of how weird what you posted sounds.

Actually, very strange.

You say John Conyers is not a national figure? Where have you been.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #58)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:02 PM

64. I know who Conyers is because I follow politics. He is a Washington figure, not a national one.

 

A tiny percentage of the nation knows who he is.

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #64)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:13 PM

67. BTW, John Conyers ran for President.

Does that make him a national figure by your rather circumspect standards?

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #67)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:23 PM

73. running for President certainly does not......no more than it made Jim Gilmore or Lincoln Chafee one

 

No one would have noticed that Bernie introduced this bill if he hadn't run for President with some success.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:23 AM

4. I am so sick of hearing about single payer bills when the ACA is likely to be repealed

and in my opinion, the latest single payer bill played a role. We will have nothing.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:30 AM

7. if Republicans repeal the ACA....

 

they will be crushed by the Dems in 2018. If they don't they will look like failures. This single payer bill has no effect on Republican attempts to repeal. Republicans are losing the battle over healthcare.

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:38 AM

8. I don't know that is true...and even if we crush them...we still don't have the votes until 20

at the earliest.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:09 AM

10. I can't prove that we will have the votes....but I think that we will.

 

It will require that Democrats nationalize the election on key issues.

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:33 AM

14. Maybe we will and maybe we won't...but betting thousands of lives that we will

seems reckless. Also between now and 20, people will die. And we would need a super majority... the polling on single payer is soft from what I can see. We need to save the ACA before we do anything else...dooming innocent people to die a horrible death for any ideology is unconscionable when there is an acceptable alternative.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #14)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:30 AM

26. We can do nothing until the 2018 election

 

the fate of millions of Americans will lie in the hands of the Republicans until then.

Until then it is simply a battle of ideas, and if you are trying to get the Republicans to "compromise"
by staying with the ACA unchanged, proposing far more than that is the way to go.

Not going for universal coverage also dooms innocent people to die a horrible death, just a different group of people.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:41 PM

60. That is too rational.

Try some wild shit that has no political chance, you will get robust cheers from some.

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:35 AM

29. They will continue sabotaging the ACA

Death by a thousand cuts.
That's what they are doing now.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #29)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:36 AM

30. they will, and must be held accountable for that

 

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:25 AM

5. I'm so glad Rep Conyers doesn't feel as slighted as some others do.

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:42 AM

20. of course.

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:34 AM

27. Nice. Thanks! nt

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:51 AM

33. No kidding. So ridiculous. nt

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:28 AM

6. Comgress, Senate. I for one and glad both men.are doing this.

YMMV

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:03 AM

9. Because he is not an independent Senator from Vermont?

I don't know. What I do know is that none of those bills will even reach committee consideration. In order to enact any single-payer or Medicare for All system, we will need strong Democratic majorities in the House and Senate and Democratic President. It will be up to us to help make that happen in 2018 and 2020. If we do not do that, we will not get that.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:49 PM

63. You are being too logical.

Some would rather spend time throwing out blue sky stuff and attacking Democrats that point out real life issues with what they propose. The mechanics of winning solid, ironclad power to make what they want happen bores the shit out of them, so they run to the next street protest.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:18 AM

12. Well, this certainly is an interesting new wedge.

I gotta tell you, I did not see it coming.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:37 AM

15. Not a wedge

 

Just a question. Don't be so defensive.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #15)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:35 AM

28. Sure. nt

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Response to Susan Calvin (Reply #28)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 04:21 PM

42. What does that mean?

 

You accusing me of lying?

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #42)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:06 PM

46. Whoa. Stepping up the game, are we?

I personally don't see much purpose except divisiveness, but only you know your motives, of course.

Edited to add:

I mean, seriously, you don't think people here know who Conyers is and what he's done? Maybe not - only you know what is in your own mind.

As for the wider world, no they don't, so much. Unfortunately. But you were talking about here, I believe.

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Response to Susan Calvin (Reply #46)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:28 PM

55. You certainly implied he/she (don't know) was lying

Being called on it is not "stepping up the game.". You respond by doubling down. Who is stepping up?

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Response to tymorial (Reply #55)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:32 PM

57. I said it sure is a wedge, whether meant or not.

And I stand by that.

Only the poster can state motive, or, for that matter, whether they perceived it as a wedge.

But I do.

Edited to add that I'm not the first "sure" on this thread. The first was called "threatened by a simple question." Which is what I meant by "stepping up the game."

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Response to Susan Calvin (Reply #57)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:38 AM

90. But it shouldn't be a wedge.

 

I still don't understand why some are taking it that way.

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Response to Susan Calvin (Reply #46)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:36 AM

89. Do a site search

 

There are only 2 threads about Conyers bill. I only found out about the other day so I was curious why it got so little attention here. It's wasn't meant to be divisive. It is a shame that some took it that way but that says more about them than about me.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #15)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 01:31 PM

36. The word is "observant."

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Response to Iggo (Reply #36)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:09 PM

47. Heh.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:40 AM

19. Its not new. It is one of many such idiocies.

This particular lameness has been repeated, but it is too lame to be on the front burner.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:13 PM

50. The question is why Bernie chose to drop his plan on the day it had already been announced

that the Rethugs were putting forward the Cassidy/Graham bill -- and working to pass it in the next 2 weeks.

When all our focus should be on Cassidy/Graham -- and saving the ACA, Medicaid, and Medicare -- Bernie wants us all to talk about single payer.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #50)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:22 PM

52. I for one can walk and chew gum. nt

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #50)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 07:26 AM

86. I found this bewildering as well,

especially since Sanders has postponed unveiling his proposal several times, going back to March. This week's press events were a distraction from the more pressing business at hand.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:38 AM

17. Two bills for single payer but not one to save the ACA...or fix it.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:47 AM

21. Fundamentally because that's all he does...

Every year he introduces the same Bill, and then makes no effort to get it passed.

In fairness, Bernie Sanders doesn't either, but he's a newer face of the issue.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:09 AM

24. Here's his video thread from Sept 13 ...

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Response to Donkees (Reply #24)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:41 AM

93. Thanks! nt

 

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:27 AM

25. It's mostly symbolic and has no chance of passing

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Response to JI7 (Reply #25)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:25 PM

53. This is true, about chances of passing at this time.

But it's not just symbolic, unless by that you mean holding up a banner for people to rally around. Can't get ideas into law if they are not out there.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:38 AM

32. Is there "not" missing from "why does Conyers (NOT) get any credit?" - Will Rec if so and added!1

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #32)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 04:19 PM

41. Good catch nt

 

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #41)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 05:31 PM

44. Duly Rec"d nt

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:59 AM

34. Sanders is national celebrity, Conyers is a virtual unknown.

It is no more complicated than that.

When Sanders does something, even advocate for a doomed bill, it is more notable than when Conyers does the same thing.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #34)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 12:10 PM

35. It may be more noted, but it certainly isn't more notable

Conyers has been representing Detroit in Congress since 1965. Just because he never thought it necessary to toot his own horn as loudly as Sanders has, that certainly doesn't make him less notable.

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Response to DFW (Reply #35)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 01:42 PM

37. Thank you. Conyers' hasn't used it as a wedge or litmus test against Democrats,

and some are all too eager to promote it for that reason alone. You can tell because if you ask about the costs, you are labeled a conservative or other such divisive smears.

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #37)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:10 PM

48. Exactly. nt

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Response to DFW (Reply #35)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:38 PM

59. "Conyers is a virtual unknown..."

Co-founder of the Congressional Black Caucus in 1969.
Member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus since its founding in 1991.
Sponsor of the bill that made MLK Day a federal holiday.
Ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee.
Dean of the House of Representatives.
Congressman for over 50 years.

Proud Democrat.



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Response to lapucelle (Reply #59)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:44 PM

62. Really. Thanks. nt

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #59)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 03:32 AM

83. You have to wonder

Virtual unknown to WHOM?

My brother interned for him at the House of Representatives when he was about 16 (he's now 63). His staff always referred to him as "JC." JC is about unknown to anyone who knows about the U.S. Congress as the Beatles are to anyone who knows about 20th century music.

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Response to DFW (Reply #83)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 07:11 AM

85. Conyers introduced the MLK Day bill in every session

of Congress for 10 years. He has been employing the same tactic with HR 676, the Medicare for All bill.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #34)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:05 PM

65. John Conyers is an unknown? LOL. nt

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #65)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:23 PM

71. What do you suppose his national name recognition is?

I would be surprised if it was a statistically significant number.

This is not a knock on Conyers, just an observation as to why the Sanders proposal got much more press than Conyers.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #71)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 12:32 AM

78. Exactly.

Sad but true state of affairs.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 02:16 PM

38. He should, and we should mention it here more often. 100 cosponsors is no joke. Of course

 


nobody mentions it in the MSM, nor did the MSM really mention Sanders bill or his cosponsors, because the MSM is not interested in promoting progressive ideas, ever.

Look, Sanders popularity has just brought a lot of people into the fold, and either introduced them to these ideas(not because they weren't out there and haven't been out there for decades but because nobody covers them and people don't hear about them) or reinvigorated their convictions to fight for these things, particularly while there is some newfound visibility. That visibility has given impetus to some of our 2020 presidential hopefuls/possibles signing on. That also means something and it is a step further than the support Conyers got, at least as it goes to visibility and big names being on record.

The biggest reasons these sorts of pushes don't get much traction here is because typically, promoting the very best liberal ideas seems to be anathema to keeping our establishment oriented democrats in positions of influence. There's little interest in using these efforts to pressure our congresspeople and senators to take a stand one way or another(because no no no no no, that might hurt them), which might as well be saying progressive ideas aren't worth fighting for. Its always better to just be fighting and attriting against conservative regression, rather than getting the GOP to fight and attrit against liberal progress.

Because jee wiz, we know that if we touch these third rails we may subject ourselves to a circular firing squad(I'm really packing in the mixed metaphors), showing our democratic leadership in a light that is if not outright unflattering in the eyes of their more left leaning constituents, certainly grayer. They'd rather let us believe that yes of course, they would fight for these things if they ever gained traction, than to have to make a statement showing their actual positions when push comes to shove.

That isn't to denigrate their actual positions, or to suggest that that means their support or lack-thereof is cynically motivated. But I hate not knowing where my politicians actually stand. I hate having to have faith based on very little that they will be there to fight for these things when the opportunity knocks. But as I said, people, Democratic voters, posters here, are implicitly aware that bringing these issues into the limelight might make our reps uncomfortable.


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Response to JCanete (Reply #38)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:13 PM

49. Yep. Thanks. nt

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 02:41 PM

39. he is neither a self serving blow hard or in it for the publicity? nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #39)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:29 PM

56. Well, I must say I do think Bernie

Is absolutely, in part, in it for publicity for the ideas. And I thank him.

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Response to msongs (Reply #39)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 12:53 AM

80. Did you really just say that

Bernie is a self-serving blowhard and just looking for publicity?

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 04:26 PM

43. Hmmm. What else was going on in January, politically?

I think there was some political news dominating the headlines for a few weeks around then, but I just can't put my finger on it...

But surely there's some kind of controversy or conspiracy to be had, right?

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 05:36 PM

45. Conyers wasn't doing it for personal political gain. Nt

 

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Response to Weekend Warrior (Reply #45)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:27 PM

54. Neither is Bernie. nt

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Response to Susan Calvin (Reply #54)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:10 PM

66. Well, I will wait before arriving at that conclusion.

I can't believe that some on DU are uninformed enough to call Representative John Conyers.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #66)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 12:23 AM

76. I completely understand getting all the info.

Please do. I shall as well

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Response to Susan Calvin (Reply #54)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:14 PM

68. No comment.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #68)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 12:21 AM

75. I remember you. nt.

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Response to Susan Calvin (Reply #75)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 07:39 AM

88. I forget you. Sorry. nt.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:05 PM

70. I give JC a ton of credit, along with Bernie. Nice goin!!

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #70)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:25 PM

72. +1 Props all around. nt

 

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #70)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 12:24 AM

77. Yesssss!

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 12:40 AM

79. Just my humble opinion...

But as of the time I type this, I think this thread is a great example of politely shutting down a troll. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Response to Susan Calvin (Reply #79)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:40 AM

92. You're calling me a troll?

 

Just for asking a simple question about something that I found out about a few days ago. That is just sad.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #92)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 10:04 AM

96. Perhaps not, sorry.

There's a lot of background here that's behind the reactions, including mine.

I should just drop it, and after posting this I shall.

If I misinterpreted, apologies.

Over and out.

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Sun Sep 17, 2017, 01:06 AM

82. Cults of Personality

Trump on the right and Bernie on the left.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 07:32 AM

87. I'm sure you can point us to the, no doubt, numerous threads you've posted giving JC accolades...

... starting in January. Yes?

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #87)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:39 AM

91. I only found out about it two days ago

 

and was curious why there was no discussion here.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #91)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:43 AM

94. LOL

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #94)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:45 AM

95. And what's so funny about that?

 

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 12:00 PM

97. I doubt there is anyone here

who is not very grateful for Mr. Conyers. He and Bernie worked together when Bernie was in the House. Conyers has been in many conversations over the years here on DU, perhaps not for this at that time. In fact, the announcement of ANYTHING in January was often covered over by the fact that we had a new president who was breaking us apart as fast as he could sign a paper.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sun Sep 17, 2017, 12:18 PM

98. Now you did it. You just pointed out that Conyers and Sanders are BOTH destroying the ACA!!!!!

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Could be January was a busy news month, with a new toddler throwing temper tantrums in the Whte House 24/7? **


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