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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEllen let Megyn KELLY pander away from her wingnuttiness, then nicely blew her out of the water
So the wingnut It person was hosted on "Ellen" to peddle her jams and jellies (as Carol CHANNING said about plugging projects), desperate to get her new NBC show off the ground, and told Ellen that politics were never really her thing, that her family wasn't political, that she had gotten on the receiving end of TWITLER's barbs, that she didn't think he would be improved/changed when he took power but that she hoped he would unify the country, but that he was definitely a factor in her deciding to leave the Faux Propaganda Network (my name for it) because he put everything in focus for her, blah blah.
Ellen asked whether she would host TWITLER on her new show, and she said, "Of course, wouldn't you?!"
Ellen took a pause, then said, "No. (pause) Because for me to have somebody on my show there has to be something about them I admire. And I regard him as dangerous, personally and for everybody. Personally for me as a Gay woman and for everybody because he divides us (in a dangerous way)."
The supposedly-EX Fauxster ("Santa is White" ) could only sit there and look her conventionally pretty way, with a frozen smile while the audience applauded.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Well deserved, too, in my book. Go, Ellen!!!
spanone
(135,831 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)tblue37
(65,340 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)Every time, and I mean every time her name comes up, I inform or remind people that she said that.
Far as I'm concerned, it's never going away.
madokie
(51,076 posts)My wife has Ellen on and as I came through the living room I go, who is that woman and then it hit me who it was, (megyn kelly,) so I had to stop and have a listen.
I love Ellen and if I was a tv watcher I'd make it a point to watch her show every fucking day. She is an Awesome person.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)She tries to de-emphasize the past political nature of her career and claim that like some latter-day Sherlock Holmes she simply follows the facts to get to her story. Watching the spot, you couldn't help but wonder who Kelly is talking about.
As for DeGeneres' statement about something to admire in her guests, I wonder what she admires about Kelly?
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)don't cover the "admiration" part. On paper the Fauxster has attorney/communication-skills. "Beauty" in the conventional sense.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)drmeow
(5,017 posts)She may not have a choice.
7962
(11,841 posts)And I imagine she owns the majority of it as well
drmeow
(5,017 posts)There is probably something in the contract about promoting other NBC shows
7962
(11,841 posts)The show is bid out to everyone, just like Seinfeld, Big Bang, etc
trc
(823 posts)she is not a right wing hack, failing that, Ellen punctuated the difference. If you allow folks a chance, their nature will will come out showing them for who they are, good or bad.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)Trying to PR the Fox out of her I guess. It seems the networks so eager to scoop up the bailing Fox "stars" overestimated their appeal to the un-deplorable viewing audience.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Hopefully, too many people know who she is and they won't fall for that particular line of bullshit.
Hopefully.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)first term, wondering passionately to the cameras how on earth people could be expected to "put up with this," and how long people were going to "take it" (Obama and his evil plotting against America) before somebody just...did something. Her very misleadingly sweet face was particularly good for that.
That was during these days we'll all remember:
("May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership. May his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.)
Fox and she had to mostly stop when called out for it, but they continued to drop little suggestions now and then all through Obama's presidency. Of course, that's only one of her genuinely depraved behaviors.
I'd throw a bottle of water out the window and report her to 911 if I came across that woman in trouble in the desert, but that's about all.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)what she lived on to do because I tossed that bottle out.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I'd make it an empty bottle..
Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)I would stop and discuss personal responsibility and how her obviously bad choices have led to her current unfortunate situation. I'd let her know that I was hopeful some non-profit would come by soon to offer assistance.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Love to see it, but with the window closed, the door locked, and car kept in gear.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)These people are so wrong and it makes me sad to think that they never realized what good he has done for our nation.
wolfie001
(2,227 posts)and they're expecting to meet Jeebus personally any day now. Obama has so much more humanity and dignity then those troglodytes (go Gov. Brown!).
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Evangelicals and "christian identity" kkk types and Nazis.
Plenty of them to go around.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)uneasy or disapproving backed off quick when they realized just what was happening in their media, leaving the usual despicables out front of course.
Wielding Truth, the same nasty right-wing media who push vicious lies and wild conspiracies today were involved in this. A very miniscule percentage of right-wing ministers and other religious leaders joined in with those Proverbs quotes. But it was spread like wildfire by political emails, and since many on the far right truly believed the stories they were being fed that Obama was evil, this reassurance of divine retribution was welcomed. Otoh, for most of the people I knew here in the deep south, most evangelicals, this old testament stuff was over the line, and wishing evil on his children way, way over.
By my observation, the responsible media reports (all print, not on TV) that had started discussing what was happening and their calls for stopping it gained quick ground when someone published the focusing, clarifying term "trolling for assassins" for this phenomenon. With a sudden spotlight turned on this behavior, Fox stopped immediately. Mostly. I watch very little Fox, but since becoming sensitized to this dangerous rabble rousing, I've continued to note a few little dribbles of this poison.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Than the ones here.
In western ny, a pretty good number are the conservative republican without critical thinking type.
And it's not all old folks.
Anyway that's really the point I meant--not all old folks. The Nazis for Dump even more so seem too skew towards the younger people.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)with so many women now able to and preferring to support themselves, and recreate so to speak with whomever they want. There's suggestion that this could be creating some tremendous hormone-driven resentments and frustrations in a bunch of youngish men. Of course, more women are also going to college and "taking" their jobs. Like sweet Megyn, who could slice and dice any number of them without mussing her dress.
Regarding your local evangelicals, though, perhaps they share the restrained, agreeable manners of our locals, developed out of "village" cultures where people lived their whole lives with the same people. It's considered very bad form here to offend others by disagreeing with them, especially in ways that might cast doubts on their morals or integrity of belief, so whole groups will stand and smile pleasantly while waiting for a couple to stop spouting off, or comment so diplomatically that it's impossible to gauge depth of disagreement, and you have to get to know them personally to sort them out.
Maven
(10,533 posts)Ellen: "No"
mreilly
(2,120 posts)... a lot of people felt since Trump was targeting her she must have been some kind of a good person but I don't subscribe to the theory that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." I saw too many instances in high school where two assholes went at it and just because Asshole #1 called me names last week didn't change the fact Asshole #2 was still an asshole.
I have zero regard for the vapid airhead Kelly. She and Trump are cut from the same useless cloth.
Leith
(7,809 posts)irisblue
(32,971 posts)Ellen really whapped Megan with a clue stick.
Leith
(7,809 posts)She was probably sitting there not able to comprehend why somebody would not want a big newsmaker on their program.
I don't know why the YouTube video didn't show up on the screen here, like most of them do.
irisblue
(32,971 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)It's as if she was thinking, "if I use this word, is one of Trump's fans going to kill me for it?"
And that's very dangerous.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)no criticizing the ideology.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)jeez, sitting next to ellen makes it even more obvious what a vapid airhead she is..
why would ellen even have her on? oh, somebody upthread said same network..
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... who seem to care more about themselves than for the American people or for the good of our country.
Our once-great nation is so screwed.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)I'm just asserting.
mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)than I already do..
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)not fooled
(5,801 posts)soulless media whore who will say and do anything for a highly-paid position as a talking model and propaganda agent. Bravo, Ellen.
Yeah, and it would be nice if someone put together a compilation of all her gross utterances while on faux, as a reminder to anyone with a short memory who think she's just peachy now.
I hope her new show crashes and burns just like Greta van Susteren's. No one cares what you have to say, megyn. Just go away.
Leith
(7,809 posts)Do they really think they will get viewers? NBC won't drag Faux hounds away from Faux. Women won't watch just because she's a woman. Maybe she and Greta can start a club of freakin' failures.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)the corporate structure of NBC is uncomfortable with Rachel, Lawrence, Chris, Joy et. al and hope to undermine their success by diluting the programming with the kind of vapid, vaguely "I'm in the middle (now) and isn't that where we all need to be*" content megyn represents.
*after RW ownership of media conglomerates has helped shove this country--at least in terms of what goes over the airwaves and passes for public policy these days--far right of what should be the actual center.
calimary
(81,238 posts)Granted, she was showcased up the ying-yang last year, what with that debate she moderated, and various other things. But then again, that was while she was at Pox Noise (or as I'm now starting to consider calling it, "FAKES News" and if all you are is an audible fart in a field of 12-inch-diameter cow pies and other turd piles, well, I guess maybe that allows somebody somewhere to think you're the big superstar Alpha of the pack.
And I'm sure of one other thing, from observing these things for a long time. I haven't seen anything to suggest or confirm that a woman executive was involved in this hiring decision, in any way. I think it was all male-driven. And many times, as I've observed, male executives hire with their dicks. They're swayed by a pretty face, pretty blonde hair, nice clothes, nice skin, nice makeup, shapely legs and other parts, stylish or provocative clothing, stylish or provocative hair arrangements (Megyn specialized in that when she had long hair. Remember the way she'd wear it swept down in front, over one shoulder, leaving the other shoulder and neck open and bare? A come-hither hair style if ever I've seen one).
I remember when Jane Pauley was replaced as "Today Show" cohost by Younger-Blonder. They brought in Deborah Norville as the anchor who read the news breaks through the morning, and yeah, she was attractive. And she photographed well. And much was made about her "natty" clothes that she made, herself (yep, they used that word, too). God, I remember a stitchery-and-home-sewing magazine cover of her, with a large caption reading "Today Sewer!" Because she sewed her own clothes. But PLEASE!!! This was UNGODLY inappropriate and inopportune. Because by the time that feature ran in that magazine, shit - Deborah Norville had replaced Jane Pauley to the displeasure of the audience, and the show's ratings were what was down in the sewer! And I'm not talking the needle-and-thread and Vogue patterns kind of "sewer"! I remember spotting that magazine cover and, while I too thought they shouldn't have canned Jane Pauley, and I hadn't really warmed to Deborah Norville (like, um, maybe, HEY, STUPID, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, 'eh?), even I thought - "YIKES! That's really a low blow - why did some copy-editor allow that? Somebody shoulda caught that!"
The audience did not appreciate Jane Pauley being moved aside, the perception being that she was getting too old and they really needed to pep things up with a Younger-Blonder. Notice - all that time, NOBODY thought of doing anything to change the MALE cohost. Bryant Gumbel prevailed, safely, throughout. No, they mixed things up with the female cohost. And the "Today Show" ratings went straight down the drain and Good Morning America took over in mornings and reigned supreme for a long time. The audience didn't want a new cohost. Didn't care how pretty or photogenic or stylish she was. Didn't care about the homemade clothes and the presumably nice on-air personality. Didn't care. Didn't want it. Wasn't buying. Wasn't watching. Deborah Norville lasted roughly less than two years, and when she left on maternity leave, rumors spread through the network that she wouldn't be back. My supervisor at the AP picked up on them and we ran with that story, too. The "Today Show" didn't recover till Katie Couric was brought in, hopefully to save the day, and indeed did so.
I don't know who-all is old enough to remember any of this, but this was back around the same time when Al Franken was a writer/regular on "Saturday Night Live." The NBC Mensa member who thought up this brilliant idea to bring Younger-Blonder in to replace the popular and beloved Jane Pauley was a guy named Dick Ebersol. From everything I heard and read about him, he was gaga over Deborah Norville. Thought she was the big deal of big deals. Couldn't wait to move Jane Pauley out and move Norville in. I immediately assumed he had a crush on her. And he roundly took the blame from TV reporters and critics for making a spectacularly crappy decision. And he made a few other decisions as an NBC programming chief that affected "Saturday Night Live" and other things - some of which Al Franken didn't like. And he said so, one night, ON THE AIR, on SNL. He did a soliloquy about this lame-ass NBC executive who made all these lame-ass decisions, named him (Dick Ebersol), and concluded his bit by referring to Ebersol by name and declaring that the above-named lame-ass "doesn't know dick." Got a HUGE laugh and applause, as I recall.
Deborah Norville took time off with the nicely convenient excuse of being a new mom, and when she finally surfaced again, it was in the lower-profile news-reality pseudo-documentary cable ghetto. I think it was as host of "Inside Edition" or some such.
So lo these many years later, it's Phil Griffin or somebody with an upper-level corner office at 30 Rockefeller Plaza who fell for the Younger/Blonder they THOUGHT was a superstar, as THE key to up the ratings, and snapped up The Fetching Miss Megyn. And paid her a queen's ransom that she is NOT earning. Because I don't think women viewers like her. I frankly don't see why anybody likes her that much. I don't think she's any big deal, and I sure wouldn't tune away from something else to watch whatever show she's on. She's nothing special. And her ratings so far have confirmed this. She hasn't set ANYBODY on fire with the NBC audience, as somebody evidently assumed she would. I don't even follow her career track at NBC anymore. It's September. Has she started on the "Today Show - Hour 3" yet? I don't even know, and I care even less.
Fla Dem
(23,656 posts)I absolutely adored Jane Pauley and was angry beyond description when she was replaced. But I don't blame Norville. She was a pawn in Bryant Gumbel's game. Jane Pauley was liked more than Gumbel and he had a lot of influence, so she needed to be replaced. The one good thing that came out of all that was when Katie Couric replace Norville.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)not fooled
(5,801 posts)The twitterer (and twit) in chief twit- + his idol and political role model -ler
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)paleotn
(17,912 posts)ecstatic
(32,701 posts)She's not going to make it on NBC. Period.
miyazaki
(2,240 posts)I stopped asking wtf is wrong with these people long ago.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Megan Kelly, is as bad as Sean Hannity in my book.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)It seems like it is over but then it starts again with the good part..
oasis
(49,382 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)She spent years as a political assassin. It was on TV and everything.
Dem_4_Life
(1,765 posts)She is one of the most amazing people ever. Bravo Ellen!!!
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