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haveahart

(905 posts)
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:51 PM Sep 2017

The bots and ad the Russians used in 2015-2016 were done with almost pinpoint precision.

Those FB ads targeted specific communities and groups. It is not enough for the Committees to see those ads. The public needs to be able to see exactly how they were conned, exactly what lies and misinformation was put out there. They need to know how they were fooled (even though they will not admit it to themselves or their friends). They need to see how they were duped and played like a fiddle.

Most importantly, they need to be told how the information was gathered, produced, and targeted and by whom. Exposure is the most important way to prevent this shit from happening in the future.

It is becoming even more clear that there was some inside the GOP and/or the Trump campaign help in targeting the messages. AND there was money put into play from not just Russia...I'm thinking maybe the Mercers, Kochs, Adlestein, etc. If so, they too are guilty of treasonous behavior. I hope Mueller goes to the bottom of the pit and digs out all the info.

i think we need to begin to petition Congress to make that information public.

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The bots and ad the Russians used in 2015-2016 were done with almost pinpoint precision. (Original Post) haveahart Sep 2017 OP
"pin point precision" captain queeg Sep 2017 #1
I think we are in the cyber war. delisen Sep 2017 #6
We can't even get the transcripts... SHRED Sep 2017 #2
I called the GOP members on the committee about that too! BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #4
Half of the population will not care, will not hear about it, or will not believe it. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #3
Interesting how disinformation is legal when paid and distributed solely via Americans. LonePirate Sep 2017 #5
Polititians would never Turbineguy Sep 2017 #7
Fascinating point! n/t crosinski Sep 2017 #11
Think the Mercer family, their money and Cambridge Analytica... Raster Sep 2017 #8
You are absolutely right tikka Sep 2017 #9
Absolutely the Devosses are involved and her brother, Eric "war criminal" Prince... Raster Sep 2017 #10
I keep waiting to hear more about Cambridge Analytica ProudLib72 Sep 2017 #12

captain queeg

(10,187 posts)
1. "pin point precision"
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:56 PM
Sep 2017

When I read those words I think about half of the books I've read about the Nazi blitzkrieg; when they all talk about Stukas hitting their targets with pinpoint precision.

In this context is just reminds me of the old saying, people are always preparing for the last war. We are already at war of sorts with Russia, and unless the Cheeto head pushes the button, I think its more likely the next big war will be a cyber war.

delisen

(6,043 posts)
6. I think we are in the cyber war.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:25 PM
Sep 2017

The first lesson is that there is no declaration of war in cyber war. The strategy is to keep the target ignorant of the war as long as possible and confuse the target. Deflect, deny and continue the attacks.

If the target suspects that war has been declared, the attacking nation denies, even while continuing war actions.


BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
3. Half of the population will not care, will not hear about it, or will not believe it.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:04 PM
Sep 2017

Look at how people voted (or didn't) in the last election. We have become a society of self centered and apathetic people. Now, if you took their precious social media away from them THEN they would take notice and become interested.

LonePirate

(13,419 posts)
5. Interesting how disinformation is legal when paid and distributed solely via Americans.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:06 PM
Sep 2017

If no Russian bots were involved, nobody in the media or Washington would bat an eye.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
8. Think the Mercer family, their money and Cambridge Analytica...
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 05:52 PM
Sep 2017
"It is becoming even more clear that there was some inside the GOP and/or the Trump campaign help in targeting the messages. AND there was money put into play from not just Russia."

tikka

(762 posts)
9. You are absolutely right
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:47 PM
Sep 2017

The Mercers are heavily involved. The question is whether Mueller can find the proof and whether the Ultra-rich Mercers will be prosecuted under our dual justice system (one for the rich and one for everyone else).Probably the Devosses are involved , too.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
10. Absolutely the Devosses are involved and her brother, Eric "war criminal" Prince...
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:13 PM
Sep 2017

...make no mistake, a cabal of uber-conservative, while nationalist billionaires are making their play... THIS IS A COUP, and these bastards have teamed up with Russia to make it happen.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
12. I keep waiting to hear more about Cambridge Analytica
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:16 PM
Sep 2017

The fact of the matter is that data-mining and psychographic profiling are completely legal and the way of the future. I think this is how the monopolies must have felt before the anti-trust act. There are maybe two large companies controlling politics. It's up to us to get Dems back in control and pass some legislation regulating their influence.

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