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kentuck

(111,097 posts)
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 10:39 AM Oct 2017

Eight months in, America is divided.

Trump supporters are standing behind their President. That is indeed how they see him. He is "their" President. He is not the President of all America. If you are not with him, you are the enemy. It doesn't matter if he threatens to shoot them on 5th Avenue or calls them a son of a bitch or grabs them by the pussy, they are with him.

The last time America was divided to this extent was probably during the Vietnam War? There is no middle ground. Even in the midst of disasters, the people are divided into different sides. The President of the United States is the primary cheerleader and divider. He has no empathy or sense of awareness about anything except himself.

There is no room for unity. We have effectively and successfully been divided into camps. Which side are you on?

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Eight months in, America is divided. (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2017 OP
I never thought I'd see the country more divided than 68-73 CanonRay Oct 2017 #1
And they profit handsomely from their spewing of hatred! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #2
Let's include NYTimes (Maggie Haberman and Bullimeir?) bad journalism of jrthin Oct 2017 #6
Is this a trick question? HipChick Oct 2017 #3
I'm on the side of America, clearly NOT Trump and his cohorts side working to destroy the country. RKP5637 Oct 2017 #4
In the context H2O Man Oct 2017 #5
Unfortunately. kentuck Oct 2017 #7
Last night, H2O Man Oct 2017 #8
Trump supporters also think the flag belongs to them. zanana1 Oct 2017 #9
Trump is a turd rock Oct 2017 #10

CanonRay

(14,103 posts)
1. I never thought I'd see the country more divided than 68-73
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 10:45 AM
Oct 2017

but this is much, much worse. I attribute that in large part to the existence of Fox, Brietbart, et al. They have their own echo chambers now.

jrthin

(4,836 posts)
6. Let's include NYTimes (Maggie Haberman and Bullimeir?) bad journalism of
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 10:53 AM
Oct 2017

false equalency, Facebook and Twitter. BTW, Maggie Haberman's mother works for Trump as their PR person. Why is she covering Trump? Is she the new Judith Miller?

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
3. Is this a trick question?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 10:47 AM
Oct 2017

I don't see a President in the WH...installed agent to promote chaos...there is no leadership....

H2O Man

(73,543 posts)
5. In the context
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 10:50 AM
Oct 2017

of a sociological understanding of the downfall of nation-states, such divisions are always found. Each group divides into sub-groups, with shallow alliances to other sub-groups. It takes relatively little pressure to divide these shallow alliances. The more aggressive sub-groups begin to resort to the force of violence, in the name of "self-defense." Society crumbles, and a dictator takes over.

This cycle can be remedied, and thus prevented. However, there is little evidence that the larger groups (and especially the sub-groups) are consciously aware of the path they are now following; hence, the likelihood of positive change is remarkably low.

H2O Man

(73,543 posts)
8. Last night,
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:07 AM
Oct 2017

my sons and I discussed this issue for hours. When viewed from "outside the frame," the picture isn't presently encouraging. We are witnessing the phase where various sub-groups dehumanize opposing groups. This is always a negative, in terms of the potential to mends the society's wounds. What is interesting is that every sub-group can see this feature in their opposition ("enemies" ), but either does not recognize it within their own sub-group, or feels fully justified in their stance.

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