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arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 08:33 PM Jul 2012

The only way I can see voter ID requirement as fair (constitutional)

Is if the state provided free IDs to everyone. Otherwise it is a poll tax. In fact they would have to have mobil id issuing teams because the poor old and infirm may not be able to make it to the licensing intity.

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The only way I can see voter ID requirement as fair (constitutional) (Original Post) arely staircase Jul 2012 OP
Agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #1
So you want the photographers to go to their houses? Igel Jul 2012 #5
If a photo ID is going to be required, then yes SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #7
The Supreme Court basically decided that unless there's a path to a free id it's a poll tax. PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #2
so no hardship waiver for courthouse appearance? nt arely staircase Jul 2012 #3
In the Indiana law in question, hardship cases can vote absentee-by-mail PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #4
Generally the case. Igel Jul 2012 #6
Florida has had voter ID for several years. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #8

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
1. Agree 100%
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 08:39 PM
Jul 2012

I do think there should be some form of picture ID, even if it is issuing voter IDs with photo, but it should absolutely be free and accessible, including going to the homes of people that can't get out of the house to get the ID.

In Virginia, any male that knows my name and address can walk into my precinct and cast a ballot in my name. All he has to do is sign an affadavit saying that he is who he claims to be.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
5. So you want the photographers to go to their houses?
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 09:25 PM
Jul 2012

All the states I know of with a voter ID requirement have free (but means-tested) IDs.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
7. If a photo ID is going to be required, then yes
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 09:31 PM
Jul 2012

If people can't get to wherever the photo ID will be issued, then either someone should have to come to their home (mobile unit) or there should be mobile units that fan out and set up in neigbhorhoods to assist people.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. The Supreme Court basically decided that unless there's a path to a free id it's a poll tax.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 08:43 PM
Jul 2012

They allowed the requirement to have to go to the licensing entity (or courthouse).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawford_v._Marion_County_Election_Board

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
4. In the Indiana law in question, hardship cases can vote absentee-by-mail
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 09:14 PM
Jul 2012

for which no photo-id is required...
:


In order to vote absentee-by-mail, one of the following must apply:
You have a specific, reasonable expectation that you will be absent from the county on Election Day during the entire 12 hours that the polls are open (6 am until 6 pm).
You have a disability.
You are at least 65 years of age.
You will have official election duties outside of your voting precinct.
You are scheduled to work at your regular place of employment during the entire 12 hours that the polls are open.
You will be confined due to illness or injury or you will be caring for an individual confined due to illness or injury during the entire 12 hours that the polls are open.
You are prevented from voting because of a religious discipline or religious holiday during the entire 12 hours that the polls are open.
You are a participant in the state's address confidentiality program.
You are a member of the military or a public safety officer.

Note:Voters voting absentee-by-mail are NOT required to show photo ID.

From: http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/2402.htm

Igel

(35,309 posts)
6. Generally the case.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 09:27 PM
Jul 2012

Don't know if it's always the case.

Then again, both this and the free means-tested issuance of state photo ID has been pointed out more than a few times. At some point you have to figure out that the high-information voter is full up with information so no more can fit in.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. Florida has had voter ID for several years.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 09:32 PM
Jul 2012

Theres a greater number of acceptable IDs than the recent states attempting it. However, if you dont have ID you can still vote on a provisional ballot, and if your signature matches whats on file, it counts. So Im not sure what good it does. And of course no ID is required to request or cast an absentee ballot...

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