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Thu Oct 5, 2017, 04:19 PM

This is a full auto weapon - and why the ATF didn't challenge bump fire stocks in the first place


The device shown in this picture is a full auto weapon:



Pulling the ring on the back will cause the action of the bolt to squeeze the trigger each time a new round is chambered.

As is chronicled here:



There are innumerable simple ways to cause any semi-automatic weapon to repeat the firing action in such a manner that successive manual trigger actions are not required.

I'm actually surprised the "Are you going to ban string" contingent did not march in the usual gun fancier parade behind the Girandoni rifle brigade this time.

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Reply This is a full auto weapon - and why the ATF didn't challenge bump fire stocks in the first place (Original post)
jberryhill Oct 2017 OP
yodermon Oct 2017 #1
Lurks Often Oct 2017 #2
jmg257 Oct 2017 #3
Captain Stern Oct 2017 #4
Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #7
EL34x4 Oct 2017 #5
maxsolomon Oct 2017 #6
samir.g Oct 2017 #8

Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Oct 5, 2017, 05:08 PM

1. plus bump stocks can be 3D printed

good luck banning that

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Oct 5, 2017, 05:24 PM

2. How dare you use facts and cite the law here!

 

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Oct 5, 2017, 05:27 PM

3. So they don't need to be banned, just illegal to use.

Interesting approach.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Oct 5, 2017, 05:54 PM

4. Seems to me, that the rate at which a gun can fire isn't really a problem.

When it comes to mass shootings, it's the amount of bullets a gun can hold.

A gun that can fire at a rate of 1500 bullets per minute wouldn't really be all that big a deal if it could only hold 15 bullets at once.

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Response to Captain Stern (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 5, 2017, 06:11 PM

7. Agree

Full auto is used by the militaries of the world to suppress, to force enemies to keep their heads down so friendly forces can relocate without getting shot. It's terrifying, but not especially accurate.

It logically follows that time spent reloading is time spent not shooting, and time spent not shooting is invaluable to potential victims attempting to flee the scene of a mass shooting. I'd argue controlling high capacity magazines is much more important than fire rate, but it is unlikely we'll see any progress on that front in the immediate future.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Oct 5, 2017, 06:05 PM

5. You can learn to "bump fire" almost any semi-auto rifle with no devices whatsoever.

 

It's all technique.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Oct 5, 2017, 06:09 PM

6. why do anything?

"this is the price of freedom" - bill o'reilly

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu Oct 5, 2017, 07:34 PM

8. Ban the weapon, not the gizmo that makes it faster

Then rednecks can have all the string they want.

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