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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:03 PM Oct 2017

Has Anyone Else Noticed the Huge Drop in Trump's Numbers in the Past Few Days?

In the past 5 days or so, the combined numbers for the Moron in Chief have gone from a net minus 14.1 to a net minus 19.2 in 538's combined polling. That includes the Rasmussen, Trump leaning poll that has the Moron at 43%.

I think that Trump fatigue is setting in and that Republicans who at least "think" they're sane and moving away from him.

In addition, many rural Americans are not seeing the changes Trump promised and are starting to realize they were conned. Not all of them, yet, but his strength, even in these demographics, is starting to wane.

Link:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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Has Anyone Else Noticed the Huge Drop in Trump's Numbers in the Past Few Days? (Original Post) louis c Oct 2017 OP
No one can take 4 years of this crap. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #1
and no country can take 4 years of this crap. spanone Oct 2017 #9
His voters were disgruntled and resentful: It's impossible to avoid being the next dartboard for the lindysalsagal Oct 2017 #2
People know crazy when they see crazy. Sneederbunk Oct 2017 #3
Evidently then, the people Hayduke Bomgarte Oct 2017 #11
Problem is, many of the disgruntled want more people deported, bigger budget cuts Hoyt Oct 2017 #4
You're talking about the one-percenters FakeNoose Oct 2017 #15
I heard my mother-in-law who lives on social security and medicare and doesn't have any assets Doodley Oct 2017 #27
Yes, he is going to do great things with healthcare but people Doreen Oct 2017 #33
They're brainwashed by Fox, Limbaugh sharedvalues Oct 2017 #19
Well sure FakeNoose Oct 2017 #29
I wish this was true, but I have my doubts Mr. Ected Oct 2017 #5
Not Going To Go Much Lower SoCalMusicLover Oct 2017 #6
Nixon made it to 24% Major Nikon Oct 2017 #12
Times Are Different Now SoCalMusicLover Oct 2017 #14
If Faux starts to dis him then it will fall. Yonnie3 Oct 2017 #18
I think the difference is there's a tipping point Major Nikon Oct 2017 #24
I noticed a former supporter going off on him last week rufus dog Oct 2017 #7
I keep hearing the Repubs are turning on Trump but I see little wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #8
Yes, I noticed a drop. Yonnie3 Oct 2017 #10
Could be an avalanche soon. Republicons are muttering and it only takes a few to start stampede. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #13
From your mouth to God's ear FakeNoose Oct 2017 #30
Beating up on poor people and POC not fooled Oct 2017 #16
Kick and R Cryptoad Oct 2017 #17
so the slope is about 1 % decline per month drray23 Oct 2017 #35
Could This Be The Quiet Before The Storm That.... global1 Oct 2017 #20
I truly believe is that Trumps numbers will go as low as Nixon..but much quicker, perhaps lower. Stuart G Oct 2017 #21
sadly, I don't trust the polls anymore Dan Oct 2017 #22
Spoke briefly with a conservative trump voter Ilsa Oct 2017 #23
Did you ask her what business reasons Takket Oct 2017 #32
She was hoping he would get tax and reg relief Ilsa Oct 2017 #34
Just more Fake News. edbermac Oct 2017 #25
Trump's base is having sobering thoughts about his inability to govern and are losing hope. dubyadiprecession Oct 2017 #26
It will reach a point in which many people will feel it is socially unacceptable to support Trump. Doodley Oct 2017 #28
Rural Americans Still Haven't Thought Through The Consequences Of Trump's Victory Vogon_Glory Oct 2017 #31
The problem is we've spent roughly 10 months on Russia conspiracy theories NCDem777 Oct 2017 #38
Trump is obviously incompetent. Willie Pep Oct 2017 #36
As a whole the DNC's poll numbers ain't exactly much better NCDem777 Oct 2017 #37

lindysalsagal

(20,682 posts)
2. His voters were disgruntled and resentful: It's impossible to avoid being the next dartboard for the
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:05 PM
Oct 2017

them: They want everything without paying for it, or tolerating the implications. So, it seems like it's 100% inevitable that they'll eventurally turn on the idiot.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
11. Evidently then, the people
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:45 PM
Oct 2017

who voted for drumpf, with all that was known of him pre-election, don't possess mirriors.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Problem is, many of the disgruntled want more people deported, bigger budget cuts
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:11 PM
Oct 2017

to essential programs, repeal of ACA, nuking Iran and NK, and worse. This is not necessarily a positive sign.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
15. You're talking about the one-percenters
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:57 PM
Oct 2017

They're rich enough to hire their own lobbyists and PR people.

Everybody else is poor, scared, disgusted and getting impatient. OK I know some of his supporters are racists and white supremacists, too. But they're nowhere near as verbal as they were a year ago. They're starting to figure Cheeto's game-plan out, I think.

Doodley

(9,088 posts)
27. I heard my mother-in-law who lives on social security and medicare and doesn't have any assets
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:20 PM
Oct 2017

say that Donald Trump is planning to do great things with healthcare. As long as there is Fox News and Limbaugh there are misinformed people, even if they are poor.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
33. Yes, he is going to do great things with healthcare but people
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:45 PM
Oct 2017

like your mother-in-law aren't part of it at all. I am in the exact same boat as she is and I do not see a future in front of me because of it.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
19. They're brainwashed by Fox, Limbaugh
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:21 PM
Oct 2017

Unless we break through that bubble, the country will swirl farther down the toilet.

We all should tell our friends and family that Fox and Limbaugh are propaganda and they must stop watching, if they care about the country. Only personal interactions can convey that message - that GOP billionaires and ratings-chasers tell lies to make money and get votes for GOP billionaires.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
29. Well sure
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:34 PM
Oct 2017

Who do you think has been paying Rush Limbaugh all these years? The guy is worth over $500 million and I'll guarantee you he didn't make that on a radio DJ salary. Most of his listeners don't even have $500.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
5. I wish this was true, but I have my doubts
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:17 PM
Oct 2017

Undoubtedly he will hold on to his hard-core base, no matter what.

I live in a rural area in the South, and the vast majority are Trump fans.

Their gripe is with the REPUBLICANS in Congress, not Trump. They still view Trump as the outsider trying to bring their values and a businessman's acumen to Washington. They see McConnell, Ryan & Co. as traitors to their beliefs and their cause.

My mind goes numb when I hear them talk among themselves. They are blind to the truth.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
6. Not Going To Go Much Lower
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:27 PM
Oct 2017

There is a varied core of roughly 30% who will support and stand by Drumpf NO MATTER WHAT.

Seriously, if Drumpf went to 5th Ave. and started shooting people, 30% will call it "fake news," and stand by their guy.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
14. Times Are Different Now
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:57 PM
Oct 2017

Much more partisan than the 70's. I can't see it ever getting that low, even if he shoots someone.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
24. I think the difference is there's a tipping point
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:55 PM
Oct 2017

If he is still fucking up by the numbers by the midterms, the GOP will have to decide if they want to swirl the bowl with Trump.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
7. I noticed a former supporter going off on him last week
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:28 PM
Oct 2017

It was due to his Puerto Rico press conference. I responded tossing paper towels was a bigger asshole move. Regardless some have taken off the blinders.

Yonnie3

(17,437 posts)
10. Yes, I noticed a drop.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 07:36 PM
Oct 2017

I wouldn't call it a huge one, yet. The graph bounces around a lot. Lets see if it continues.

I follow the likely/registered voter one closely. It seems a little different than the graph of all polls.

53/41.5 (-11.5) September 24th and 55.3/40.0 (-15.3)today. A much bigger spread was back in early August 57.6/36.3 with a -21.3. I'll cheer when I see that again. I am still astounded that 40% can approve of him.

fivethirtyeight.com gives Rasmussen a lower weight in their averages, so its effect is reduced.

I haven't seen the effing moron mention a poll in a long while. It's ratings isn't it? He values ratings bigly.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
13. Could be an avalanche soon. Republicons are muttering and it only takes a few to start stampede.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:44 PM
Oct 2017

tRump might be impeached before he reaches Jan 20, 2018.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
16. Beating up on poor people and POC
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:04 PM
Oct 2017

being incompetent and wrecking the Federal Government are all A-OK with his supporters but start threatening WWIII and nuclear armageddon and a lot more of the morans are going to question their support for this madman.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
35. so the slope is about 1 % decline per month
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:46 PM
Oct 2017

if you draw a trendline through the green approval data it seems to be dropping at about 1 % a month.

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
21. I truly believe is that Trumps numbers will go as low as Nixon..but much quicker, perhaps lower.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:32 PM
Oct 2017

By the end of the first year, Trump will be in the 20s, maybe 27 or 8..or lower...Why? We all found out that Nixon was a big liar, but it took 6 years...Trumps true nature is known now. Some do not believe that he is as bad as he is. But most, yes most. (75 percent) will come around to see Trump for what he really is. And that 25 percent, would never believe the truth. But the rest of us, well we will al see the truth..yes all Trump will thought of as the most incompetent president, ever. Like we see him now, but most will come to see it. That is the truth.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
23. Spoke briefly with a conservative trump voter
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:48 PM
Oct 2017

the other day. Her face went from happy to sullen. She said she voted for him for business reasons, but she didn't like him personally. She must be exhausted if she has paid attention to even half of the shitshow going on.

Takket

(21,565 posts)
32. Did you ask her what business reasons
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:43 PM
Oct 2017

Guided her to vote for someone with multiple bankruptcies?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
34. She was hoping he would get tax and reg relief
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:46 PM
Oct 2017

to small businesses. It was fun seeing her expression change to anger and frustration over him.

Doodley

(9,088 posts)
28. It will reach a point in which many people will feel it is socially unacceptable to support Trump.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:24 PM
Oct 2017

Then the numbers will tumble rapidly.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
31. Rural Americans Still Haven't Thought Through The Consequences Of Trump's Victory
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:42 PM
Oct 2017

If they'd thought of what Trump and the Republicans want to do to Medicare and the subsidies that keep so many rural hospitals open, they'd be trembling in their boots.

 

NCDem777

(458 posts)
38. The problem is we've spent roughly 10 months on Russia conspiracy theories
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:56 AM
Oct 2017

instead of showing those consequences

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
36. Trump is obviously incompetent.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 12:00 AM
Oct 2017

Plus most of his big legislative pushes have involved things like taking health care away from Americans and tax cuts for the rich. Some of the populists who voted for him thinking he was some champion of the working man/woman are now starting to see how they were duped.



 

NCDem777

(458 posts)
37. As a whole the DNC's poll numbers ain't exactly much better
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:54 AM
Oct 2017

so how do we capitalize on it? We've spent 10 months ranting about Russia and pushing for impeachment pipedreams that will never, ever happen. It lost us most of the national special elections. Whether we think Russia helped Trump or not is irrelevant. Russia is a losing issue. It won't win unaffiliated voters.

Maybe we should, and here are some amazing thoughts,

Say nothing about Russia and talk about the things that actually affect people day to day. Let me offer one example.

Trump is trying to make it harder to sue nursing homes for beating up residents. Big issue in Florida.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/353876-house-democrats-plead-for-right-of-residents-to-sue-nursing-homes

Yet no Maddow stories on that. DNC should be posting pictures of scummy nursing homes all over the media. TV ads, billboards, twitter with a big ass caption: "TRUMP IS ENABLING THIS!" Especially in Florida.

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