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Democracy Quotes
There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.
Isaac Asimov 1980
Link:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/84250-anti-intellectualism-has-been-a-constant-thread-winding-its-way-through
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Thanks for the quote.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)That said, I still prefer Democracy over Elite Rule.
mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)looks like the side effects may turn out to be fatal.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)with a veneer of democracy.
the elite are the wealthy elite, the kakistocrats and their hirelings, not the scientific or cultural elite.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)100% agree. The installation of dump and the more open looting of the country under his "presidency" just makes it a little more obvious. What is good for the American people and what they want--e.g., health care--gets little or no serious consideration. What the wealthy and corporations want prevails.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)as the poor. Were Assimov now alive, I think he'd agree.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)as the recent post BREXIT Google search for the definition of the European Union illustrates.
Myrddin
(327 posts)Mosby
(16,311 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,256 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)Thank you.
tomp
(9,512 posts)..."
the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."
Lucky Luciano
(11,256 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)through privatization, standardized testing, and everything possible to suck the life out of it--and suck the money out if and divert it into their own pockets.
hvn_nbr_2
(6,486 posts)We should be hearing this phrase every day, and we should be using it every day.
Trumpzis = cult of ignorance = deplorables = cult of ignorance = ...
"Fake news" is the mantra of the cult of ignorance.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)So many trumpsters that voted for Trump because he spoke to the "common man". He dumbed things down.
Except we should NEVER accept an ignoramus as president. We WANT them to be smarter than us. A lot smarter! Drop your ego and get over yourselves. Someone running this country better know wth they're doing. I realize nothing can prepare you completely for the job of President, but you best be intelligent enough to catch on fast & you best have some kind of political background to prepare for the job.
I personally think trumpsters translate "elites" as intellectuals. Meanwhile we see the rich & powerful as elites (which includes their beloved leader).
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Paraphrasing, "you bet I want an 'intellectual'. I want someone so smart he can read my mind or levitate the White House".
Tobin S.
(10,418 posts)I'm the common man and I have a good understanding on who better represents my interests when I step into the voting booth. Trump used social conservatism and outright regression on people to appeal to their ignorance and prejudices and conned them into voting against their own interests. Either that or they are the white supremacist true believers who will take the hit on the destruction of social programs that benefit them personally, and knew that was coming, to instigate what they thought would be actions taken by Trump to start the preservation of the white race in America. But although there is that element out there, I don't think most of them are that complex in their thinking.
About 40% of the electorate didn't cast a vote in the last election. They are mostly common people who don't feel like anyone in government truly represents them. Democrats need to start talking to those people. Those of us who keep up on political issues are often highly critical of those who do not even bother to vote. We see it is as their failure and say all kinds of unkind things about them. This is actually a failure of the political establishment in America. Establishment Republicans really like things just as they are in America right now. They are not going to try to try to represent that 40% because they know they aren't getting anyone there on board with them unless they make some serious changes, which they won't. As Democrats, we have in the history of our party the kinds of policies that will appeal to a great many of these people.
I spoke to one of those people here recently. He said he didn't bother with politics because he thought that most politicians were corrupted by special interest money and high dollar donors, and were more interested in trying to stay in power than doing the kinds of things that really help ordinary people. That is a politically astute observation.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)17 years ago, the republicans foisted a hapless son of priviledge on the country with the proud refrain, parroted by the jackass media a million times, "a guy you would like to have a beer with!"
Cause, the super intelligent, capable and decent opponent was an elitist, can't have that!
You are right on the last point generally.
And, that is a nut that I have no clue how to crack.
zanana1
(6,113 posts)That's what's wrong with you smug, liberal elites. You should be ashamed to have a high school diploma. If you went to college, you must be punished.
I'm so tired of the "silent majority" mouthing off about intelligent people. We don't fight back about important things. So they think we look down on them? We should look down on them! For years, I tried to hold back for fear of hurting people's feelings. The hell with that; now I'll sound like a walking dictionary.
tblue37
(65,357 posts)society. (A poll reported on a couple of weeks ago revealed that.)
Virtual Burlesque
(132 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)mtngirl47
(989 posts)send me ignorant emails!
Left-over
(234 posts)thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)So many more "news" sources, plus social media. It's so much easier now for people to share and spread their ignorance-based information.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)He was a brilliant man! I heard he's the only writer who had books published in every genre. I wonder if that's still true.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Everything from science and math (naturally) to history, theology, and even collections of jokes.
I don't think anyone has rivaled his breadth and output. The only writer who I can think has approached it is Stephen King, and his nonfiction works center around writing.
Excellent ... thanks for sharing. So true ... and useful to boot!
alterfurz
(2,474 posts)lark
(23,099 posts)I was lucky enough to get a signed copy of one of his books from a friend that was good friends with Asimov and his wife.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Stevenson) and "Harvard boutiques" (41, about Dukakis), and so on.
Republicans have always known that an uneducated electorate is easy to dupe into self-destruction.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)in American Life" (Pulitzer Prize).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism_in_American_Life
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)people would do it.
tiptonic
(765 posts)I wish I had said that. Pretty much covers the state of the union and why we are, where we are. Hope that makes sense!!
Motley13
(3,867 posts)don't remember where I heard it
CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)The first scifi book I read was Asimov.
on edit:
The Last Question
http://multivax.com/last_question.html
My first sci fi short stories were an Asimov collection.
tblue37
(65,357 posts)https://www.amazon.com/Anti-Intellectualism-American-Life-Richard-Hofstadter/dp/0394703170
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)niyad
(113,303 posts)WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)TwistOneUp
(1,020 posts)Organized religion.
Science flies a man to the moon;
Religion flies a man into a building.
Hekate
(90,686 posts)KPN
(15,645 posts)Maybe as Hecate said, it isn't a complete explanation -- but it's definitely a big part of it today. I'll be using that one for sure!
BTW, welcome to DU.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)in, as the Founders called it, mob rule, rule by the masses
The Electoral College was supposed to prevent this. As was Senators elected by state legislatures, one-man one-vote.
Mass media, gerrymandering, money in politics they did not foresee or prevent very well.
This one-party country has been engineered and planned for over 50 years, by many politicians, domestic and foreign.
Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)"If ignorance isn't bliss, I don't know what is."
liberalla
(9,247 posts)Simple and succinct.
Sad too.