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Stinky The Clown

(67,832 posts)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:10 PM Nov 2017

HRC will never be running for elected office again. MOVE THE FUCK ON

Those of you caterwauling about HRC/Donna Brazillle/Bernie Sanders/Wasserman-Shultz/WhothefuckEver, STOP IT. You are doing exactly what YOUR ENEMIES within and without want you to do.

It is time to move on. Drop it. Let it go.

Stop fighting the last war.

Put your energy into winning the House and the Senate in 2018. Your calories are much better spent there than yelling into your rear view mirror.

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HRC will never be running for elected office again. MOVE THE FUCK ON (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 OP
I'll let it go after we set the record straight and make it clear that StevieM Nov 2017 #1
DB's book needs to be recalled or edited before publication! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #3
Um, no. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2017 #12
Crazy suggestion? WTF? Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #14
Donna herself has said that she didn't say the election was rigged by DNC. lark Nov 2017 #45
And there is no reason for anyone to be perpetuating "beef" between Sanders and Clinton people Ken Burch Nov 2017 #2
Yes. People should stop bringing that up in conversations that have nothing to do with that issue. Squinch Nov 2017 #6
It direcly related to this conversation. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #7
Uh huh. Squinch Nov 2017 #8
I voted for Bernie in the primaries because I preferred him christx30 Nov 2017 #29
Indeed. We know that foreign interests want to sow seeds of distrust. Salviati Nov 2017 #76
I think several apologies are in order first. leftofcool Nov 2017 #4
Yup. I've checked Twitter a few times. Control-Z Nov 2017 #9
Folllwed by more apologies BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #11
We either move on, or get moved on. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #35
Russian bots for one. lark Nov 2017 #46
Good try, Stinky PJMcK Nov 2017 #5
Popcorn. Must have popcorn. Lots of popcorn. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2017 #10
Rabble. Rabble. Rabble. EarthFirst Nov 2017 #13
Amen no Bernie in 2020 won't he be 80 by then? redstatebluegirl Nov 2017 #15
We do. I love Hillary and Bernie but we need new blood. We need a 50 year old Bernie and a 50 year OregonBlue Nov 2017 #17
I am also so sick of the infighting. It's like some people don't seem to understand that OregonBlue Nov 2017 #16
Yes, And just for the record. I like Sherrod Brown and Joseph Kennedy III, Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #42
Adam Schiff, Terry McAuliffe and Eric Swalwell turn me on. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #53
Adam Schiff is superb pandr32 Nov 2017 #54
Please! My 'crush' is expanding! 😍🤗 sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #56
Thank you. Im so sick of hearing both sides. Water under the bridge. kysrsoze Nov 2017 #18
+1000 recs. tiredtoo Nov 2017 #19
+1 It's the point that needs to be made Greywing Nov 2017 #20
How about get people...I would worry about ethics later...there is no universal agreement on what a Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #41
I want to know how the DNC ended up broke RhodeIslandOne Nov 2017 #21
How many time have I seen people here and on other sites say ...they won't give to the DNC. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #40
People have an agenda. Kaleva Nov 2017 #22
GAH! Texasgal Nov 2017 #23
Exactly! WTH is wrong with people?! Falling into the GOP trap. C Moon Nov 2017 #24
I always get a kick out of whining about others whining. LexVegas Nov 2017 #25
Now that you got your kick, get to work on winning in 2018. Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #30
Money MFM008 Nov 2017 #26
I agree, and I wish the posts could be moved to somewhere else (not GD). It's exactly what Trump anneboleyn Nov 2017 #27
Thank you. nt jrthin Nov 2017 #28
Nope. Enough with these false equivalencies. People defending Hillary from lies boston bean Nov 2017 #31
Do you always argue with fellow HRC supporters? Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #57
When they ask me to stay silent in my defense if dems. yES!! boston bean Nov 2017 #59
Yes! We always lose the fight because radical noodle Nov 2017 #69
Hannity et al are having a field day with the Donna Brazile garbage. VOX Nov 2017 #32
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2017 #33
LET'S DISCUSS DONNA... Podkayne K Nov 2017 #34
+100 Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #39
Actually, Gore won in 2000, including Florida. Gore1FL Nov 2017 #48
She really screwed up the works. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #51
Thank you, Stinky. That NEEDED to be said. Glorfindel Nov 2017 #36
Maybe she will change her mind. KIDDING, LOL!!! BootinUp Nov 2017 #37
Donna appears to have lied too. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #38
Yes! Heartstrings Nov 2017 #43
Good advice. Donna Brazile needs to hear it, more than I do. (nt) Paladin Nov 2017 #44
Good luck. Gore1FL Nov 2017 #47
But Sanders DOES still have a job in Washington LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #49
"collusion" Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #50
sigh LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #55
You're right about this... radical noodle Nov 2017 #70
I agree with that LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #72
Exactly what do you find problematic? radical noodle Nov 2017 #73
Wellllllllllll.... LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #74
I find it troubling to radical noodle Nov 2017 #75
You are right about "purity is in the eyes of each different person" LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #78
"I'll stop fighting the last war after I've won it!!1!!1" Beartracks Nov 2017 #52
You realize the collateral damage could be 2018 losses? Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #58
My subject line was a theoretical quote from those who want to... Beartracks Nov 2017 #71
I agree wholeheartedly. SergeStorms Nov 2017 #60
Move on scuciti Nov 2017 #61
When Brazile's lies stop being reported Progressive dog Nov 2017 #62
Or we can repeat the same mistakes again IronLionZion Nov 2017 #63
I wouldn't count her out. fescuerescue Nov 2017 #64
Oh goodness, I hope not. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2017 #65
Well it's not as if we have any control over it fescuerescue Nov 2017 #66
Hillary & Bernie who? sellitman Nov 2017 #67
I made the same type of comment on Facebook and got attacked and told to STFu kimbutgar Nov 2017 #68
Thank you Stinky,. Well said, concise and with a positive message moving forward. Take back the c-rational Nov 2017 #77
I agree, but sadly, it won't happen... Javaman Nov 2017 #79

lark

(23,177 posts)
45. Donna herself has said that she didn't say the election was rigged by DNC.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 01:54 PM
Nov 2017

Did she say this in writing? If she did, she lied and needs to correct the misstatement.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
2. And there is no reason for anyone to be perpetuating "beef" between Sanders and Clinton people
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:15 PM
Nov 2017

It shouldn't matter anymore who you backed in the primaries...what matters is the future and finding the common ground and common program necessary to restore this party to the level of strength needed to truly make change in this country.

The only thing we can change is the future.

Squinch

(51,058 posts)
6. Yes. People should stop bringing that up in conversations that have nothing to do with that issue.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:23 PM
Nov 2017

But I suspect they won't.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
7. It direcly related to this conversation.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:30 PM
Nov 2017

The OP was a general call to move on-admitting there's no reason to keep the hate going is part of that.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
29. I voted for Bernie in the primaries because I preferred him
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:19 PM
Nov 2017

over Hillary. I was happy with my decision. But when Hillary got the nomination, I didn't feel one bit of anger. And I took my daughter to the polls 2 hours after early voting started and let her watch me vote for the first female president. She was excited. The only thing I regret is that she didn't win, and we're stuck with Trump for 4 years (or his impeachment, whichever comes first).

Salviati

(6,009 posts)
76. Indeed. We know that foreign interests want to sow seeds of distrust.
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 08:31 PM
Nov 2017

We don't need to feed those narratives here. Don't be baited, alert and keep a level head.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
9. Yup. I've checked Twitter a few times.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:33 PM
Nov 2017

Haven't seen an apology yet. And, of course, there are others who should apologize as well. Not expecting it though.

BannonsLiver

(16,527 posts)
11. Folllwed by more apologies
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:35 PM
Nov 2017

And then more discussions and then more apologies. Rinse and repeat. There is no way the threshold will ever be met. There is nothing the DNC or Hillary or anyone else can do or say that would satisfy those most up in arms over this. There will always be those who covet grievances.

lark

(23,177 posts)
46. Russian bots for one.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 01:56 PM
Nov 2017

This am on MSNBC they said that 15 of the 20 most active threads on this were from bots, not people. Folks, Russia is still very very active and trying to fuck us over. Stop falling for their ploys.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,169 posts)
10. Popcorn. Must have popcorn. Lots of popcorn.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:33 PM
Nov 2017

Thumbs up on this one, stinky.

Dems will lose again if this bullshit keeps up.

OregonBlue

(7,755 posts)
17. We do. I love Hillary and Bernie but we need new blood. We need a 50 year old Bernie and a 50 year
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:52 PM
Nov 2017

old Hillary. Let's stop fighting and figure out who those people are.

OregonBlue

(7,755 posts)
16. I am also so sick of the infighting. It's like some people don't seem to understand that
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:51 PM
Nov 2017

we have another election coming up and Hillary won't be on the ticket so who gives a rat's ass what happened. I personally think Donna made up lots of stuff to make her book more interesting but so what. Hillary will not be on the ticket. I think that Debbie was very bad at her job but she won't be there and Hillary won't be on the ticket.

Could be all start working to find a really good set of candidates that WILL be on the ticket and WILL win and just stop with rehashing and rehashing and rehashing and rehashing ad nausea.

Everyone had their favorite. None of them won. Can we PLEASE move on and find new favorites that we can all support? Our country is in real trouble and we're fighting over who said what to whom and when. Are we 12?

Demsrule86

(68,733 posts)
42. Yes, And just for the record. I like Sherrod Brown and Joseph Kennedy III,
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:26 PM
Nov 2017

Kamela Harris and Corey Booker...but I will support any Dem candidate.

sprinkleeninow

(20,268 posts)
53. Adam Schiff, Terry McAuliffe and Eric Swalwell turn me on.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 03:11 PM
Nov 2017

Not in the way it's sounding!

(Alright, a tad!)

Curbing my enthusiasm now....😇

pandr32

(11,635 posts)
54. Adam Schiff is superb
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 03:23 PM
Nov 2017

He is measured and deliberate, and oh so intelligent! He comes across as someone who is incapable of bs.

kysrsoze

(6,024 posts)
18. Thank you. Im so sick of hearing both sides. Water under the bridge.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:22 PM
Nov 2017

We all look like idiots with this continual rehashing. People need to learn to let go and concentrate on something slightly more important - like figuring out how to take a slew of seats in the next election.

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
20. +1 It's the point that needs to be made
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:50 PM
Nov 2017

Think to the future and concentrate on 2018. We have to join forces, get ethical people back the House and Senate and get the mess in our Nation's capitol put to rights.

Demsrule86

(68,733 posts)
41. How about get people...I would worry about ethics later...there is no universal agreement on what a
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:25 PM
Nov 2017

good candidate is...so I have my own method...is there a "D" next to his/her name? If the answer is yes, than vote for said candidate.

Demsrule86

(68,733 posts)
40. How many time have I seen people here and on other sites say ...they won't give to the DNC.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:23 PM
Nov 2017

Also, during Obama's time there were rules about who could give money...lots of our Dem financiers were out in the cold...bad idea. It has been changed by perez.

Texasgal

(17,048 posts)
23. GAH!
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:58 PM
Nov 2017

No shit Stinky!!

I am so tired of this shit I could THROW UP!

Time to go after Cheeto and his crazy band of minions!!

Stinky The Clown

(67,832 posts)
30. Now that you got your kick, get to work on winning in 2018.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:25 PM
Nov 2017

And it wasn't whining, it was yelling in anger.

Welcome to DU. Thanks for contributing.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
27. I agree, and I wish the posts could be moved to somewhere else (not GD). It's exactly what Trump
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:09 PM
Nov 2017

wants of course -- it's ridiculous.

boston bean

(36,224 posts)
31. Nope. Enough with these false equivalencies. People defending Hillary from lies
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:29 PM
Nov 2017

are doing a service.

Save your wrath for those spreading lies. Thank you very much.

We use to defend dems from attacks and lies here. I think it should be that way. YMMV.

radical noodle

(8,016 posts)
69. Yes! We always lose the fight because
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:35 PM
Nov 2017

the GOP seizes on every little thing and we sit back and say nothing in response. While Donna and Sean Hannity and Trump bash the DNC and make it into a sideshow to distract from Trump/Russia, we should be stepping up to disprove this nonsense. Every time a story like this is all over the airways, we lose voters who become disillusioned because of the lies. We must defend Hillary and Democrats from crap like this. I remember a time on DU when we did.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
32. Hannity et al are having a field day with the Donna Brazile garbage.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:34 PM
Nov 2017

Which is reason enough for any Democrat to knock off making the right wing’s job so goddamned easy.

Any Democrat with a thorough understanding of what’s going on should know better than to go down the “destroy Hillary” trail. She is a private citizen now, for Christ’s sake.

Podkayne K

(145 posts)
34. LET'S DISCUSS DONNA...
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:56 PM
Nov 2017

YHUGE LOSER!

1. Blew the 2000 election and ran one of the most sorry campaigns ever to lead a candidate who should have easily won into a stunning defeat.

2. Got caught stealing questions, helping Repukes and all the other Anti-Clinton Types such as the NY Times, Fox, and MSM further dump their vile and viciousness in their campaign to bury HRC>

3. Fired from her job(s), including the one at CNN, she has largely been ignored since, so...

4. She pulls an Ann Coulter-type outrage by printing an outright lie--uh, complete misinformation statement--in order to get noticed again; her name in the news and herself back on TV--even if it's Fox.

5. Gives not a DAMN about her "alleged" party, candidate, or country. And becomes just like Trump: caring only about money and self.

JUST ANOTHER DAMN DEPLORABLE!


Gore1FL

(21,159 posts)
48. Actually, Gore won in 2000, including Florida.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 02:21 PM
Nov 2017

Regardless, like 2016, 2000 is over too. Al Gore won't run again either.

Let's talk about how to win 2018.

sprinkleeninow

(20,268 posts)
51. She really screwed up the works.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 03:07 PM
Nov 2017

She might have a D connected to her, but she ain't walkin' that walk, as it is said.
(I really try to refrain from using that overwrought term.)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
49. But Sanders DOES still have a job in Washington
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 02:45 PM
Nov 2017

That's where I sometimes get appalled by the Sanders bashing even while he is working with, and respected by, many other working Democrats.

I agree that it is pointless to wring our hands anymore about the Clinton/DNC collusion against Sanders...despite the honest to gawd reasons why Sanders supporters should have been upset by the finger-on-the-scales by the DNC in favor of Hillary, already established before the Brazille statements in the leaked DNC documents, as well as debate scheduling, and reductions etc... It does no one good to cry over spilled milk. I believe that Clinton would have won regardless. As soon as Sanders endorsed her, it should have been over, even if one had to swallow back a bit of bile. Because we needed to rally around our candidate. Politics can be a dirty game, but after every new development one has to re-evaluate and pivot if necessary for the greater good.

But what I can't fathom is that some fail to even accept the fact that Sanders is a working Senator still. Its almost like they think that if Hillary is not a factor anymore on the national scene then Sanders should voluntarily also be irrelevant. And every news item posted that praises Bernie's ongoing work, always has a cadre of haters that attempt to highjack the thread with insults, both towards Sanders, as well as anyone that admires and supports his ongoing work with Democrats. I think this is counter productive, spiteful, and serves no one.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
55. sigh
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 03:25 PM
Nov 2017

That's what you respond to? Sorry, it wasn't meant to have any meaning other than the dictionary meaning.

How about connive? Too strong? Facilitate? Either way, I made a point of saying that is old news. ie...Those of us that had already accepted an unfair playing field have done so a long time ago. We knew the odds of backing Sanders against the well oiled Clinton machine going in. And those secret emails revealed previously only confirmed what we all suspected anyways. So this is not news, whether exaggerated or not.

My point was that one of them, Hillary, is still in the news mostly because of the Republicans and Trump still using her poisoned name to score political points with their base. IMO she is the most unfairly harangued, besmirched, politician in US history, now going on for decades.

The other is in the news because of his ongoing work, his speeches, his policies. Because he makes the news by his own present day actions. There is a difference.

radical noodle

(8,016 posts)
70. You're right about this...
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:08 PM
Nov 2017
IMO she is the most unfairly harangued, besmirched, politician in US history, now going on for decades.


Many men & women here relate to that and like her even more for standing up to all that and still moving forward. Any so-called collusion in the DNC was nothing compared to the massive collusion against her. We had the right and the far left to fight, along with misogynistic men, Putin and Comey.

We should have one point where we can all start. We don't bash Democrats.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
72. I agree with that
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 10:28 PM
Nov 2017

I had my issues with her, and supported Bernie, but even IF there was some kind back room 'conniving' against Sanders. Its only what every other major candidate's team tries to do, in any country on the planet. Politics is a dirty game sometimes. Like I said, I think she'd have won anyways, ..too much of a lead. So I can't spend my time wringing my hands on something that may have been wrong at the time, and I was very upset at one time, but it bears no relevance to today. The threat of the orange dotard in the WH is much more important.

There is a difference however in that we should still be able to examine, and even criticize, the directions that the Democratic party as a whole has taken in the last 20 years. Beyond and outside of this election. Especially considering how much of the country has been lost to our control during that time. And one cannot get around the fact that the Clintons and their third way strategy, was a big influence on that direction during that time.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
74. Wellllllllllll....
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 03:53 PM
Nov 2017

What do I find problematic? That's a huuuuuuuge question. I don't know exactly what you specifically are asking. Problematic with what? Losing so much in Governorships and local elections all across the country? Yes I do. And the strategy, since Bill Clinton, to out-Republican the Republicans by implementing a "third way" strategy. In effect, join the Republicans in wooing big business and Wall street into their (our) tent, even if it crowds out a big swath of grassroots Democrats that are uncomfortable with that. Moving towards the GOP playbook of prioritizing 1 percent of the population as more valuable than 99 percent of the rest, when it comes to the economy. (While differentiating themselves on social issues).

They could see the GOP get huge donations from the corporate class, and wanted in on the cash. Hence things like support for the TPP, for the oil pipelines, while catering to conservatives on social issues like traditional marriage only, pot prohibition..all of those reversed only when it became safe to do so, or there was too much criticism.

Backing DINOs in State elections instead of actual Democrats with progressive ideals, even though if the choice is a Republican or a faux Republican, voters will vote for the Republican almost every time. The fear of simply standing up for progressive forward principles and having faith that people will come around eventually with enough information. That the top brass of the Democratic party has fallen for the false Fox News meme that America is a conservative country, when if you ask each person specific questions on liberal policies, like minimum wage, SS, medicare, public education, hell, even the ACA, they support them.

So to me, I have a problem with the cowardice of giving up, and trying to act all family values, (Hillary: my favorite book is the Bible), and being coy about $200,000 dollar speeches to Goldman Sachs, declaring that Single Payer "is never going to happen"...... I say be bold. Be positive about the possibilities. Be proud of being liberal thinking people. Sanders proved that if you are honest and show people that you stand by your convictions, even someone who openly calls himself a socialist, can be the most popular politician in the country. The establishment Democrats in Washington are still clinging to their failed 'third way' top down strategy in a lot of ways. Embrace your liberalism. Don't be afraid of it. Or you look wishy washy and are easy targets for RW hate media. If they are going to hate you anyways, why not actually give them something to get mad about.

I know you are not being snarky. You are one of posters with maybe an alternate opinion that is more civil about it, I appreciate that.

radical noodle

(8,016 posts)
75. I find it troubling to
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 08:15 PM
Nov 2017

start labeling Democrats with "DINO" or "neoliberal" or "third-way."

It seems that now is the time to ditch the old divisions and work together for all Democrats because any Democrat is better than a Republican. Is there a way to get past this desire some have for purity? We are never going to find a "pure" Democrat because purity is in the eyes of each different person. As a big tent party, we have a lot of different opinions.

We can't stop being the party of social justice. We can't stop being the party of women's rights and gay rights. Maybe we should all work together to settle on what we can all agree on and go from there.

Thank you for your answer.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
78. You are right about "purity is in the eyes of each different person"
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:15 PM
Nov 2017

Its almost comical the way Hillary was was not deemed pure enough for some to vote for because of her more right of center approach to business. And Bernie was not deemed pure enough because he wasn't a real Democrat.

Although I would say that as far as "neoliberal", and "third way" those are actual terms that describe actual political strategies. And in light of all the losing the party has been doing the last number of years, I think ignoring their influence is counter productive to moving forward to being an effective force for social justice, women's rights and gay rights.

But yes, there must be a way to have these discussions without it being a "who is more pure" p#@#ing contest.

cheers

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
52. "I'll stop fighting the last war after I've won it!!1!!1"
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 03:11 PM
Nov 2017

... That seems to be a prevailing attitude among some.

And yeah, that "war" was/is manufactured by the foreign bots, so it's not worth fighting for TWO reasons: 1) it doesn't help us going forward, and 2) the war is fake.

I kinda think, when people say we need to keep churning over the last election so we can learn what went wrong, that the only thing we'll actually learn -- the hard way -- is that we were played for fools. TWICE, if we're not careful.

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Stinky The Clown

(67,832 posts)
58. You realize the collateral damage could be 2018 losses?
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:13 PM
Nov 2017

You okay with that?

It is not smart to fight the war your enemy wants you to fight and the way he wants you to fight it.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
71. My subject line was a theoretical quote from those who want to...
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:40 PM
Nov 2017

... keep fighting lat year's primaries. I used it sarcastically.

I guess it wasn't that obvious...?

=========

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
60. I agree wholeheartedly.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:39 PM
Nov 2017

I've tried to convey that to several people, but they'd have none of it. They want to continue the "good" fight, as they see it, and nothing is going to placate them but the public execution of HRC. This is absolutely my final word on this subject. Onward to the mid-terms!

scuciti

(33 posts)
61. Move on
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:43 PM
Nov 2017

Bernie would have beaten Trump.Hillary with Bernie as running mate would have beaten Trump. If the DNC wasn't so corrupt and the Hillbots could actually process "what happened" and actually take responsibility then the Dems would have a chance of winning, in the future. Hilary was a weak and corrupt candidate, and that got us to Trump. There is a direct connection.

Progressive dog

(6,922 posts)
62. When Brazile's lies stop being reported
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:37 PM
Nov 2017

then perhaps I will move on. One thing we should have learned is that lies about prominent Democrats should be forcefully repudiated by Democrats.

IronLionZion

(45,579 posts)
63. Or we can repeat the same mistakes again
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:37 PM
Nov 2017

I was happy to be rec #100 but there are people who would like the primary process to change before the next election


And we do have enemies within. There are liberals trying hard to lose a winnable governor's election in Virginia Tuesday.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
64. I wouldn't count her out.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 06:04 PM
Nov 2017

In fact I think a rematch in 2020 would be wonderful and give her the justice she deserves.

sellitman

(11,608 posts)
67. Hillary & Bernie who?
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 06:41 PM
Nov 2017

I don't know who you are talking about but I suspect whoever they are they are both anti 45.

kimbutgar

(21,226 posts)
68. I made the same type of comment on Facebook and got attacked and told to STFu
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 06:55 PM
Nov 2017

I commented back, shame on you.

c-rational

(2,596 posts)
77. Thank you Stinky,. Well said, concise and with a positive message moving forward. Take back the
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 08:35 PM
Nov 2017

House and Senate and hope the Dumpster is gone long before that.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
79. I agree, but sadly, it won't happen...
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:17 PM
Nov 2017

just mention, the election of 2000 and watch people go crazy.

there are some here on DU that hang onto things like grim death.

such is life.

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