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Now that there's new information that Brazile has got it wrong. Elizabeth Warren should own her words saying that the DNC was rigged. She should publicly apologize if we are to be a united Democratic party. Her words has helped create a divisions for us all.
RainCaster
(10,923 posts)iluvtennis
(19,876 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)I used to be a big fan of her. But sometimes some of her comments are major head scratchers.
I hope I'm wrong about the apology thing by the way.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)if she doesn't. She has to know that. I think she will, but it's still going to hurt her politically, in my opinion. You don't just fly off the handle like that without fact checking, and that's something she didn't do.
Everyone's favorite pastime - criticize, condemn and complain - about Hillary Clinton, is going leave a lot of people who had higher political aspirations, in the dust. I feel so sorry for Hillary. She didn't deserve all of this bullshit. You really find out who your friends are in your toughest times. A woman who has often put public service before her own life is treated like dirt.
Is she a perfect woman? No, no one is perfect, but no one works harder for her constituents than Hillary Clinton either. She certainly didn't deserve all of the crap people threw at her. Not only the gad-damned Republicans, but from her own damned party! I wouldn't blame her if she never raised another cent for the Democratic party. But she wouldn't do that, she has too much class. Grace under pressure. Here's to you, Hillary Rodham Clinton!
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)Flying off the handle is not a good thing for a president to do; she's done damage, perhaps fatal, to her presidential aspirations
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)But if not, her mistake will cost her. Bigly.
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)I haven't.
They just tell us to move on.
fallout87
(819 posts)Apologized when she was wrong?
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)Some people take it for granted so much that women should apologize, that they don't even notice when they do.
https://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/08/hillary-clinton-calls-private-email-server-a-mistake-says-im-sorry-about-that/
Hillary Clinton, Citing Her Mistake, Apologizes for Private Email
Hillary Rodham Clinton acknowledged on Tuesday that her use of a private email server while she was secretary of state was a mistake, and apologized directly for it, uttering words that many of her allies have waited to hear from her in hopes that she can quell a controversy that has dogged her presidential candidacy for months.
That was a mistake. Im sorry about that. I take responsibility, Mrs. Clinton said in an interview with David Muir of ABC News broadcast Tuesday night. And Im trying to be as transparent as I possibly can.
https://qz.com/1077873/hillary-clinton-book-how-many-times-clinton-apologized-in-what-happened/
Hillary Clinton is the first and only woman to have given a big US presidential concession speechand she is the first and only candidate to say Im sorry.
Trust a woman to do that. Research finds that women apologize more than men, likely because people are faster to judge women for their behavior. Clinton has since acknowledged time and again her own responsibility for losing the 2016 US presidential election.
Months later, apologies continue to abound in her new book about the campaign, What Happened.
Nevertheless, many appear deaf to her words of acknowledgement: From political analysts to president Trump himself, the rumor has taken hold that Hillary Clinton blames everyone but herself.
SNIP
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-apologized-obama-trump-victory-article-1.3067032
As it became clear that Donald Trump would become the next leader of the free world, Hillary Clinton called President Obama and apologized.
"Mr. President, I'm sorry," Clinton told the sitting commander in chief as her unexpected election loss became reality, according to a Washington Post review of a new book about the Democratic presidential candidate's failed 2016 campaign.
https://www.today.com/video/hillary-clinton-apologizes-to-former-coal-worker-in-candid-moment-678389827888
Hillary Clinton apologizes to former coal worker in candid moment
At a round table discussion in West Virginia, Hillary Clinton had a candid encounter with a weeping father who lost his job as a coal worker. NBCs Andrea Mitchell reports.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/24/hillary-clinton-apologizes-for-saying-illegal-immi/
Hillary Clinton apologizes for saying illegal immigrants
Thank you for compiling that thorough, and insightful piece of work.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)I was wondering if anyone would even see it -- so you've made my evening.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Unbelievable people would think she never takes responsibility. She always does, and they overlook it.
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)You did that rebuttal so classily and calmly. I am pretty much reduced to screaming at these wilfully ignorant Hillary haters.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Another lie about Hillary bites the dust.
OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)hate this reply, but not for the reasons you might assume. If I had been present when any of those apologies were made, I would be unable to stop from shouting:
NOT ONE OF THOSE THINGS NEEDS AN APOLOGY!!!!!!!
Every one of those was nothing but a RW talking points. They were, particularly to the extent they were portrayed as important, all lies. Secretary Clinton had ZERO need to apologize for the other side's fucking lies.
I happen to believe that massive strategic mistakes were made by the "geniuses" running her campaign that had more to do with losing than all the other bullshit she had to endure but damn, this idea that she made the kind of mistakes in her words, deeds, or actions that had any effect on this election is not just insulting to her it's insulting to the truth.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)she'd felt the need to do this.
And all her unnecessary "I'm sorry's" fell on deaf ears.
GaryCnf
(1,399 posts)madaboutharry
(40,224 posts)Many times.
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)she isn't a coward who hides her mistakes and she isn't afraid to own up to them.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)mercuryblues
(14,543 posts)when she is right she always thanks others and gives them credit for working as a team to make it happen.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)Squinch
(51,021 posts)HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)No, really. Let's all just move on. 2016 was just a complete clusterfuck and accept that there are differing opinions about what really happened and not pump this up further.
emulatorloo
(44,187 posts)Bernie has said he lost fair and square.
oasis
(49,410 posts)That would get her off of the hook for right now, but she has severely damaged her chances for higher office.
onetexan
(13,062 posts)Best Warren stays in senate.
babylonsister
(171,094 posts)I really think we need to focus on what's important versus the usual dredging. Never ending?
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)You know why we can't have nice things today? It's because Hillary lost the election. You know why she lost the election? Because she has high negatives. You know why she has high negatives? Because people like Brazile tell lies and they get repeated so often that the lie becomes the truth.
Now if Donna was as big a person as the one she attacked she would say she was wrong. And if enough people would have done that during Hillary's time in the public sphere she would be president today. And we would have some pretty nice things.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)the way Hillary is and has been treated. I can't believe she withstood the onslaught for 30 years. Few could and she should be recognized and appreciated for her willingness to fight the good fight.
I've had it up to my eyebrows with the Hillary haters.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)They have to start or we will never be successful.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Good job!
OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)Squinch
(51,021 posts)at a President.
It's a mark against her in my mind. And not because of anything harking backward. Because it was hasty and ill-informed and simply a wrong conclusion.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)basically said and she needs to retract that statement as being wrong...and how exactly can Democrats move on after an accusation like that? Soon everyone will believe it...if we don't fight this pernicious lie from Brazile who wrote a book that is a pack of lies and pretended apparently to be one of us for years.
DoctorPepper
(35 posts)Of course there's "new information." There always is nowadays. Elizabeth Warren is pretty careful with her words.. She refused to endorse Bernie, after all. I can't remember the last time she was forced to eat her words -- maybe you can. Looks to me like this whole thing is spinning out of control - and when I say out of control, I mean out of the control of the DNC.
But time will tell.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)article already proven a lie is true I have to ask why would you do that? Oh and welcome to DU.
Squinch
(51,021 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)How can Elizabeth Warren be moronic enough to basically agree with that statement? It plasters the theme in public discourse. So no matter what Trump did involving Russia, or how many lies he tells on a daily basis, you've got a not insignificant sample of the populous who will dismiss it as meaningless because Democrats are busy with their own corruption...perhaps worse.
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)SunSeeker
(51,726 posts)JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)wiley
(2,921 posts)At this point with the entire country crumbling down upon us, with the Republicans trying to defraud and assault the American people with their tax fraud scam they are calling reform - why is there anti-abortion language stuck in it, as well as pro-insane Pence Christianity (Johnson amendment) language in it - while the illegitimate President is actually attacking the DOJ she had to be desperate for attention or demonstrating that she is completely incapable of focusing on anything important such as running the country as President. What was she thinking? She needs to be primaried.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)Already, she has a tough fight ahead of her to retain her seat, and she just made it tougher. We need every Senator and three more.
world wide wally
(21,755 posts)Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)she had checked the facts before doing a full Ginsburg to smear Hillary.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Squinch
(51,021 posts)reality.
The document that Brazile referred to was not signed until after the primary was over. That's a fact.
The document that was in effect before the end of the primary did not give Hillary any control over the DNC money. That's a fact too.
Evolution is real. Climate change is real. Brazile was wrong. All these things are facts about which there are differences of opinion.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)regarding Hillary. I don't remember an apology for that. Now dems and progressives are upset at her. She also has low polll numbers in her state
OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Squinch
(51,021 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Response to Chasstev365 (Reply #63)
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PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)triron
(22,023 posts)Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)This entire thread is a slap at party unity. Liz is a Democratic senator. But hey, let's see if we can run her out of the party.
Squinch
(51,021 posts)Let's see if she can do something to win back the respect people lost for her when she made that statement.
Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)Just keep bashing her.