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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI live in rural Alabama.
I noticed about a month ago Roy Moore signs were in a few yards as I drove to get groceries. There were about three signs along my route, and they pissed me off each time I saw them. Today, I drove by on my way to the store and every single sign was gone. Now this may mean nothing, as some of the ornery, stubborn folks in my small town (pop. 1200) may have taken the signs in but will vote for him anyway. Who knows. But I thought it was very interesting.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)definitely a good sign.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Although they will NEVER vote for a Democrat (they have been brainwashed from the pulpit) my hope is they will stay home.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)Although I would never agree with him, he sounded the most reasonable of the conservatives, not a total nut.
Luther Strange & of course Moore are crazy repugs
trc
(823 posts)Voting for a democrat would be like voting for a sexual predator...unless that predator is a republican, then at least he is not a democrat.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)TNLib
(1,819 posts)Nt
packman
(16,296 posts)Signs in yard, then they disappeared one by one as more and more stuff came out. But, the area still went for him big time - Gawd forbid they vote for a Dem.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)Further north you go, the further South you get...
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I used to live in Key West.
Had to get all the way up to Jacksonville to get grits with your eggs!
TeamPooka
(24,223 posts)like how you could not find a single German in Germany who had voted or supported Hitler after WWII.
Just a big mystery.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Like it is so strange that George W Bush got elected when hardly anyone voted for him. Nixon too.
Saviolo
(3,282 posts)There are three religious truths:
1. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
2. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the Christian faith.
3. Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store or at Hooters.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Thanks for the views into your areas, Charlie and everyone.
AllyCat
(16,184 posts)chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)4. Whenever you see four Catholics together, you'll find a fifth.
moriah
(8,311 posts)japple
(9,823 posts)earlier this spring that had been changed to this:
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has now been replaced with a billboard that reads "Drain the Swamp" pray for out nation, etc. Sorry I don't have a picture.
This is on I-75 at exit 328 in near Dalton, GA.
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)thoughts and prayers of course
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)You don't have to bad-mouth Roy Moore, he's in deep enough shit as it is. But talk up Doug Jones. Encourage people you know to take a look at him. If your Alabama friends are sensitive to being characterized as a bunch of in-bred hicks and yokels, mention that Doug Jones is one of the good guys. He prosecuted and won convictions of the cowards who bombed the church where those four little girls were killed in 1963.
This is really an easy call: Are you in favor of decency and fairness, or do you want to elevate a child molester against the man who sent murderous cowards to jail?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)desensitize them to the decades of propaganda.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)qwlauren35
(6,148 posts)Mentioning that he worked that case would probably piss off some white male Alabamans who would have done the bombing themselves. Or knew who did it and were keeping quiet. People don't like it when you bring up the past. It only gives closure to the relatives of the dead girls, and a sense of justice to the black community. It definitely won't win the white Alabama voters.
There have to be other things in his favor that don't bring up black/white issues.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church was a criminal issue. If some Alabamans still see it as a racial issue, that's on them, and I'd say that the votes of such retrograde racists should be spurned, lest we incur some sort of debt to them. I understand some Alabamans are sensitive to being portrayed as racist fucks; here's a golden opportunity to shed that image.
The holdovers who get pissed off about some cowardly terrorists being brought to justice can just stay pissed off. I'm willing to give the rest of white Alabama a chance to prove to the country that they're not still in thrall to these assholes.
qwlauren35
(6,148 posts)The thing I look at is motivation. People have to be motivated to vote for Jones. And the fact that he's a Democrat is a turn-off. I'm not sure that bringing the church bombers to justice is enough of a plus. There's got to be something more in his favor. Or he will lose.
barbtries
(28,789 posts)that no sign thing.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Good news.
Catherine Vincent
(34,489 posts)RussBLib
(9,008 posts)Catherine Vincent
(34,489 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)charlyvi
(6,537 posts)West Blocton, Alabama....gateway to Centreville!
RussBLib
(9,008 posts)Just sitting on their hands hoping Moore will implode enough?
I went onto their website today and no news, no headlines, just crickets.
The Dems are getting a golden opportunity to take a southern Senate seat. I'll bet you Doug Jones considers himself a Christian. Did Doug have habits of preying on teenage girls too?
This is also a good opportunity to further debate the separation of church and state. Moore wants a fucking theocracy.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)In fact, he was the man who put the last man responsible for the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church, which murdered four little girls, in jail. You should apologize for that shameful remark.
16th Street Baptist Church bombing case
Jones prosecuted Thomas Edwin Blanton Jr. and Bobby Frank Cherry, two members of the Ku Klux Klan, for their roles in the 1963 16th Street Baptist Church bombing. The case was reopened the year before Jones was appointed, but did not pick up traction until his appointment. A federal grand jury was called in 1998 which piqued Cherry's ex-wife, Willadean Cherry's, attention and led her to call the FBI to report her testimony. Willadean then introduced Jones to family and friends who reported their own experiences from the time of the bombing. A key piece of evidence was a tape from the time of the bombing in which Blanton stated that he had had to meet up with others to make the bomb. Jones was deputized in order to argue in state court and was able to indict Blanton and Cherry in 2000. Blanton was found guilty in 2001, and Cherry was found guilty in 2002. Blanton was up for parole in 2016, at which Jones spoke in opposition to his potential release. Blanton's parole was denied. Cherry died in prison in 2004.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Jones_(attorney)#16th_Street_Baptist_Church_bombing_case
Doug Jones does not abuse little girls, he fights to give them justice.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)charlyvi
(6,537 posts)But I dont know if it will overcome the D after his name.
LisaM
(27,806 posts)next to his Trump sign. It says, "Thank You, America".
If I lived there, I'd be so tempted to sneak in some night and replace "America" with "Russia".
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Then post a pic. It bet it goes viral.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)...however the monster RESIST sign is still high up on someone's wind machine.
lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)I believe it.
AllyCat
(16,184 posts)Mariana
(14,856 posts)All these accusations and stories are the work of Satan, trying to keep this fine upstanding man of God and champion of the faith out of his rightful, divinely ordained place in the United States Senate.
Golden Raisin
(4,608 posts)Not the lawns. I'll be surprised if Moore doesn't win.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I thought that was strange, since there were a lot of Romney signs back in 2012. My area did indeed vote for Hillary by a slim margin, even though Romney won it in 2012.
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)Not wanting to be seen supporting the perp is the first step to voting for someone else, or nobody at all
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)I think staying home is probably the best guess here. I'm fine with that.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Orange Free State
(611 posts)....saying If as a Christian youre disgusted with the behavior of Roy Moore, you can send a clear message to your party by staying home on Election Day. As of the latest I heard he is still at 55%,and I do expect him to win. I think that the other Republicans bailing on him are doing so because they also think he will safely win. A write in vote for an acceptable candidate should be encouraged, because it would effectively split the Republican vote; how many Alabama voters can write anyway? Probably not enough to win a write in but enough to make Moore lose.
If Alabama was any worse it would be Mississippi.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Maybe they don't want to stir things up, like Wisconsin. Can you imagine what ths Repubs would be doing if it were the reverse?
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... how they go about campaigning in Alabama. National democrats can be toxic to the Trump/Moore base voters here. Moore is flailing. Jones is coming off as a reasonable alternative, or at least as not too bad a guy for a Democrat. Thats a good place to be right now.
A big push from national Dems with big $ and endorsements? - probably motivate the anti-democrats and be counter productive. (Although the $ is good if its not too directly tied to the DNC). Nancy and Hillary really need to not comment too loudly about all of this. Sad that its like that, but it is.
Mariana
(14,856 posts)means "decent human being with a conscience". It just isn't so.
Orange Free State
(611 posts)...it is a strategy to keep Moores base at home watching Wheel of Fortune or whatever, and not voting. If you could get 3% to stay home, there is your Election, and you are really close to flipping the Senate. There are voters who do not like Moore but cant bring themselves to vote for a Democrat. Give a mouse a hole and hell run to it every time.
Nitram
(22,794 posts)KPN
(15,643 posts)underneath the leaves and other debris anyway. Nice to see 'em going back there.
Texin
(2,596 posts)It's more than possible that they still plan to vote for the cretin but just don't want to advertise the fact. There weren't all that many Shitler yard signs during last year's installation either, but the assclown was still voted into office by the same people that plan to vote for this pedophile child abuser. I fully expect him to win. They need to send out those flyers throughout Alabama and in Washington D.C. that warn the entire population that a pedophile is in their vicinities.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)compared to Republican candidates in the last several (at least within the state of Iowa), so I wouldn't put too much stock in that.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)As I said, it's just interesting.
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