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charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 05:33 PM Nov 2017

I live in rural Alabama.

I noticed about a month ago Roy Moore signs were in a few yards as I drove to get groceries. There were about three signs along my route, and they pissed me off each time I saw them. Today, I drove by on my way to the store and every single sign was gone. Now this may mean nothing, as some of the ornery, stubborn folks in my small town (pop. 1200) may have taken the signs in but will vote for him anyway. Who knows. But I thought it was very interesting.

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I live in rural Alabama. (Original Post) charlyvi Nov 2017 OP
It demonstrates loss of enthusiasm lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #1
Possibly. charlyvi Nov 2017 #2
Why didn't they vote for Mo Brooks, too liberal Motley13 Nov 2017 #3
The best we can hope for is that they stay home. trc Nov 2017 #5
Yes indeed. charlyvi Nov 2017 #10
They don't have to vote, just stay home grantcart Nov 2017 #48
Maybe theyll do a write in or stay home TNLib Nov 2017 #4
I noticed that in the Florida Panhandle when Trump was running packman Nov 2017 #6
I read here once that Florida is the only state in the union where the Volaris Nov 2017 #8
Bang on! Pacifist Patriot Nov 2017 #38
Yep! Little Star Nov 2017 #60
Very true. cwydro Nov 2017 #61
Dude will win with 75% of the vote but not a single persun will admit to voting for him. Kind of TeamPooka Nov 2017 #7
Exactly. charlyvi Nov 2017 #9
Reminds me of an old George Carlin joke: Saviolo Nov 2017 #11
Bwahaha! n/t charlyvi Nov 2017 #13
LOL! I miss him. But, if his humor was dark before,... Hortensis Nov 2017 #14
Perfect! AllyCat Nov 2017 #39
Don't forget the 4th one... chwaliszewski Nov 2017 #45
#3 is very true, though I had only heard "liquor store". Nt moriah Nov 2017 #47
The tRUMP signs in my North GA community are still there, but the one that I posted japple Nov 2017 #12
Pray for our strange country IronLionZion Nov 2017 #51
Talk up Doug Jones - he's a terrific candidate gratuitous Nov 2017 #15
+1 Come at them like they are a recently released POW. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #26
I know that's the proper approach, but damn, I not good at being that diplomatic groundloop Nov 2017 #29
Actually... qwlauren35 Nov 2017 #58
Disagree gratuitous Nov 2017 #59
Holdovers vote. qwlauren35 Nov 2017 #62
i hope that's a good sign. barbtries Nov 2017 #16
It's WAY better than the many signs thing! charlyvi Nov 2017 #17
You must not have driven by the pastors house. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #18
When does the election take place? Catherine Vincent Nov 2017 #19
Dec 12 - n/t RussBLib Nov 2017 #23
Oh, That's coming up. Thanks. Catherine Vincent Nov 2017 #25
North, south or central? Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #20
Central. charlyvi Nov 2017 #24
what's the Alabama Democratic Party up to? RussBLib Nov 2017 #21
Doug Jones has never preyed on teenage girls. charlyvi Nov 2017 #27
He is really an admirable, decent, courageous guy then. Does that count for anything in Alabama? Alice11111 Nov 2017 #43
I hope so. charlyvi Nov 2017 #50
Here in Washington State (in Mt. Vernon) someone has a sign that went up last November LisaM Nov 2017 #22
+1, n/t RKP5637 Nov 2017 #30
That would be brilliant! Just tape a piece of paper that says "Russia" over the "America." SunSeeker Nov 2017 #32
i think most here in eburg have taken the MONSTER trump signs down. samnsara Nov 2017 #46
My friend from GA says they'll elect Moore. They don't care. lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #28
I agree. They will happily elect this creep because he SAYS hes a man of Gaaawwwddd AllyCat Nov 2017 #40
And they genuinely believe him. Mariana Nov 2017 #52
Proof of the pudding will be in the voting booths. Golden Raisin Nov 2017 #31
My very red Orange County, CA, neighborhood had no Trump signs on their lawns. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #33
As reliable an indicator as a retailer having a fire sale before declaring bankruptcy bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #34
I hope so. charlyvi Nov 2017 #35
Very interesting. It means SOMETHING, but what I don't know. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #36
Dems should be running ads in Alabama.... Orange Free State Nov 2017 #37
You would think. The DNC says they are there, but I don't hear tell of it. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #44
The DNC has to be very careful... Whiskeytide Nov 2017 #49
Don't assume that the word "Christian" Mariana Nov 2017 #55
I am not assuming anything... Orange Free State Nov 2017 #64
Thanks for the report. Invaluable info we won't get anywhere else. Nitram Nov 2017 #41
Good. I liked 'em better when they stayed hidden like slugs KPN Nov 2017 #42
I wouldn't get too excited or read anything postive about that. Texin Nov 2017 #53
That is exactly what I said in my post. nt charlyvi Nov 2017 #56
There were very few Trump bumper stickers prior to 2016 election bullwinkle428 Nov 2017 #54
I'm not charlyvi Nov 2017 #57
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #63

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
2. Possibly.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 05:38 PM
Nov 2017

Although they will NEVER vote for a Democrat (they have been brainwashed from the pulpit) my hope is they will stay home.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
3. Why didn't they vote for Mo Brooks, too liberal
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 05:47 PM
Nov 2017


Although I would never agree with him, he sounded the most reasonable of the conservatives, not a total nut.

Luther Strange & of course Moore are crazy repugs

trc

(823 posts)
5. The best we can hope for is that they stay home.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 05:50 PM
Nov 2017

Voting for a democrat would be like voting for a sexual predator...unless that predator is a republican, then at least he is not a democrat.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
6. I noticed that in the Florida Panhandle when Trump was running
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 05:57 PM
Nov 2017

Signs in yard, then they disappeared one by one as more and more stuff came out. But, the area still went for him big time - Gawd forbid they vote for a Dem.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
8. I read here once that Florida is the only state in the union where the
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:03 PM
Nov 2017

Further north you go, the further South you get...

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
61. Very true.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:09 PM
Nov 2017

I used to live in Key West.

Had to get all the way up to Jacksonville to get grits with your eggs!

TeamPooka

(24,223 posts)
7. Dude will win with 75% of the vote but not a single persun will admit to voting for him. Kind of
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:01 PM
Nov 2017

like how you could not find a single German in Germany who had voted or supported Hitler after WWII.
Just a big mystery.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
9. Exactly.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:05 PM
Nov 2017

Like it is so strange that George W Bush got elected when hardly anyone voted for him. Nixon too.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
11. Reminds me of an old George Carlin joke:
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:09 PM
Nov 2017

There are three religious truths:

1. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.

2. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the Christian faith.

3. Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store or at Hooters.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. LOL! I miss him. But, if his humor was dark before,...
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:32 PM
Nov 2017

Thanks for the views into your areas, Charlie and everyone.

japple

(9,823 posts)
12. The tRUMP signs in my North GA community are still there, but the one that I posted
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:14 PM
Nov 2017

earlier this spring that had been changed to this:

""
has now been replaced with a billboard that reads "Drain the Swamp" pray for out nation, etc. Sorry I don't have a picture.

This is on I-75 at exit 328 in near Dalton, GA.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. Talk up Doug Jones - he's a terrific candidate
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:37 PM
Nov 2017

You don't have to bad-mouth Roy Moore, he's in deep enough shit as it is. But talk up Doug Jones. Encourage people you know to take a look at him. If your Alabama friends are sensitive to being characterized as a bunch of in-bred hicks and yokels, mention that Doug Jones is one of the good guys. He prosecuted and won convictions of the cowards who bombed the church where those four little girls were killed in 1963.

This is really an easy call: Are you in favor of decency and fairness, or do you want to elevate a child molester against the man who sent murderous cowards to jail?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
26. +1 Come at them like they are a recently released POW.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:58 PM
Nov 2017

desensitize them to the decades of propaganda.

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
58. Actually...
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:32 PM
Nov 2017

Mentioning that he worked that case would probably piss off some white male Alabamans who would have done the bombing themselves. Or knew who did it and were keeping quiet. People don't like it when you bring up the past. It only gives closure to the relatives of the dead girls, and a sense of justice to the black community. It definitely won't win the white Alabama voters.

There have to be other things in his favor that don't bring up black/white issues.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
59. Disagree
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:41 PM
Nov 2017

The bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church was a criminal issue. If some Alabamans still see it as a racial issue, that's on them, and I'd say that the votes of such retrograde racists should be spurned, lest we incur some sort of debt to them. I understand some Alabamans are sensitive to being portrayed as racist fucks; here's a golden opportunity to shed that image.

The holdovers who get pissed off about some cowardly terrorists being brought to justice can just stay pissed off. I'm willing to give the rest of white Alabama a chance to prove to the country that they're not still in thrall to these assholes.

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
62. Holdovers vote.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 10:29 AM
Nov 2017

The thing I look at is motivation. People have to be motivated to vote for Jones. And the fact that he's a Democrat is a turn-off. I'm not sure that bringing the church bombers to justice is enough of a plus. There's got to be something more in his favor. Or he will lose.

RussBLib

(9,008 posts)
21. what's the Alabama Democratic Party up to?
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:54 PM
Nov 2017

Just sitting on their hands hoping Moore will implode enough?

I went onto their website today and no news, no headlines, just crickets.

The Dems are getting a golden opportunity to take a southern Senate seat. I'll bet you Doug Jones considers himself a Christian. Did Doug have habits of preying on teenage girls too?

This is also a good opportunity to further debate the separation of church and state. Moore wants a fucking theocracy.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
27. Doug Jones has never preyed on teenage girls.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 07:04 PM
Nov 2017

In fact, he was the man who put the last man responsible for the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church, which murdered four little girls, in jail. You should apologize for that shameful remark.

16th Street Baptist Church bombing case
Jones prosecuted Thomas Edwin Blanton Jr. and Bobby Frank Cherry, two members of the Ku Klux Klan, for their roles in the 1963 16th Street Baptist Church bombing. The case was reopened the year before Jones was appointed, but did not pick up traction until his appointment. A federal grand jury was called in 1998 which piqued Cherry's ex-wife, Willadean Cherry's, attention and led her to call the FBI to report her testimony. Willadean then introduced Jones to family and friends who reported their own experiences from the time of the bombing. A key piece of evidence was a tape from the time of the bombing in which Blanton stated that he had had to meet up with others to make the bomb. Jones was deputized in order to argue in state court and was able to indict Blanton and Cherry in 2000. Blanton was found guilty in 2001, and Cherry was found guilty in 2002. Blanton was up for parole in 2016, at which Jones spoke in opposition to his potential release. Blanton's parole was denied. Cherry died in prison in 2004.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Jones_(attorney)#16th_Street_Baptist_Church_bombing_case

Doug Jones does not abuse little girls, he fights to give them justice.


LisaM

(27,806 posts)
22. Here in Washington State (in Mt. Vernon) someone has a sign that went up last November
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:54 PM
Nov 2017

next to his Trump sign. It says, "Thank You, America".

If I lived there, I'd be so tempted to sneak in some night and replace "America" with "Russia".

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
32. That would be brilliant! Just tape a piece of paper that says "Russia" over the "America."
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 07:19 PM
Nov 2017

Then post a pic. It bet it goes viral.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
46. i think most here in eburg have taken the MONSTER trump signs down.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:47 AM
Nov 2017

...however the monster RESIST sign is still high up on someone's wind machine.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
52. And they genuinely believe him.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 12:38 PM
Nov 2017

All these accusations and stories are the work of Satan, trying to keep this fine upstanding man of God and champion of the faith out of his rightful, divinely ordained place in the United States Senate.

Golden Raisin

(4,608 posts)
31. Proof of the pudding will be in the voting booths.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 07:14 PM
Nov 2017

Not the lawns. I'll be surprised if Moore doesn't win.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
33. My very red Orange County, CA, neighborhood had no Trump signs on their lawns.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 07:23 PM
Nov 2017

I thought that was strange, since there were a lot of Romney signs back in 2012. My area did indeed vote for Hillary by a slim margin, even though Romney won it in 2012.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
34. As reliable an indicator as a retailer having a fire sale before declaring bankruptcy
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 07:28 PM
Nov 2017

Not wanting to be seen supporting the perp is the first step to voting for someone else, or nobody at all

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
37. Dems should be running ads in Alabama....
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 10:22 PM
Nov 2017

....saying “If as a Christian you’re disgusted with the behavior of Roy Moore, you can send a clear message to your party by staying home on Election Day. “ As of the latest I heard he is still at 55%,and I do expect him to win. I think that the other Republicans bailing on him are doing so because they also think he will safely win. A write in vote for an acceptable candidate should be encouraged, because it would effectively split the Republican vote; how many Alabama voters can write anyway? Probably not enough to win a write in but enough to make Moore lose.

If Alabama was any worse it would be Mississippi.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
44. You would think. The DNC says they are there, but I don't hear tell of it.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 03:57 AM
Nov 2017

Maybe they don't want to stir things up, like Wisconsin. Can you imagine what ths Repubs would be doing if it were the reverse?

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
49. The DNC has to be very careful...
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 11:05 AM
Nov 2017

... how they go about campaigning in Alabama. National democrats can be toxic to the Trump/Moore base voters here. Moore is flailing. Jones is coming off as a reasonable alternative, or at least as “not too bad a guy for a Democrat”. That’s a good place to be right now.

A big push from national Dems with big $ and endorsements? - probably motivate the anti-democrats and be counter productive. (Although the $ is good if it’s not too directly tied to the DNC). Nancy and Hillary really need to not comment too loudly about all of this. Sad that it’s like that, but it is.

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
64. I am not assuming anything...
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 01:43 PM
Nov 2017

...it is a strategy to keep Moore’s base at home watching Wheel of Fortune or whatever, and not voting. If you could get 3% to stay home, there is your Election, and you are really close to flipping the Senate. There are voters who do not like Moore but can’t bring themselves to vote for a Democrat. Give a mouse a hole and he’ll run to it every time.

KPN

(15,643 posts)
42. Good. I liked 'em better when they stayed hidden like slugs
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 12:53 AM
Nov 2017

underneath the leaves and other debris anyway. Nice to see 'em going back there.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
53. I wouldn't get too excited or read anything postive about that.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 12:39 PM
Nov 2017

It's more than possible that they still plan to vote for the cretin but just don't want to advertise the fact. There weren't all that many Shitler yard signs during last year's installation either, but the assclown was still voted into office by the same people that plan to vote for this pedophile child abuser. I fully expect him to win. They need to send out those flyers throughout Alabama and in Washington D.C. that warn the entire population that a pedophile is in their vicinities.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
54. There were very few Trump bumper stickers prior to 2016 election
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 12:45 PM
Nov 2017

compared to Republican candidates in the last several (at least within the state of Iowa), so I wouldn't put too much stock in that.

Response to charlyvi (Original post)

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