Chelsea Handler jumps on Juanita Broaddrick bandwagon, earns praise from Hannity

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

on the same night he declared PedRoy Moore innocent and said he was satisfied with his answers, no less. A learning moment, he says!

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Of course, this is what we're dealing with, in between her constant retweets of James Woods, Alex Jones and Roger Stone:

Pushing debunked and false batshit conspiracy theories (she now lies and claims she has never attacked Trump's accusers):


Calling other accusers liars, while demanding her own changing story be believed


And mocking them, when their assailant gets elected


aaaand, if you're going to believe Juanita, I'd go with believing Under Oath Juanita, rather than Expenses Paid By Trump To Attend The Debate Juanita:


Way to fall for a rightwing operative that even Ken Starr didn't find credible, Chelsea. Maybe Sean can invite you to his Freedumb Concert now.

[Dorian Gray]

1. Did the above

include the same exact defense of Roy Moore that we've been seeing? "20 years later? Why didn't she say anything?"

While I think discussion about Bill Clinton is worth having, I also think that shutting down Broderick because she didn't say anything for 20 years when we're railing against people who try to shut down Moore's accusers for the same exact rhetoric is problematic (at best).

Broderick is many things. A trump supporter is one of them. That doesn't mean she wasn't sexually assaulted and made the whole thing up.

And if she did, BC still had a pattern of targeting younger women in the work arena and having sexual relations with them. (Despite his very public denials.) Problematic behavior. I'm glad that behavior is not being tolerated anymore in 2017. It is behavior that people were willing to turn a blind eye to during the 90s, though.

We should expect way more of our politicians. We should expect a safe place for women to work.

Taking inventory of who we are and where we stand is not a bad thing. And mistakes were made in the 90s. They seem to have been made throughout history. Attitudes are changing now, though. And that's a good thing, overall.

[Lurks Often]

2. This will either be an interesting thread or it'll disappear off the first page quickly

[Dorian Gray]

7. The latter.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

10. Youre an odd fellow.

One might say peculiar even.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. If Ms. Broaddrick wants to be taken seriously

If Ms. Broaddrick wants to be taken seriously why would she say she is a legitimate victim of Bill Clinton and Trump's victims are fake:

Deplorable Donny- " have you seen the various rape allegations against Trump?"

Juanita Broaddrick- "I don't believe they are true. Sorry."

Let her run to Sean Hannity for succor.

[Dorian Gray]

8. How you feel about her

doesn't negate anything I said, though.

[standingtall]

11. The fact that she had her chance at justice 20 years

ago and said twice under oath she was not raped negates everything you said. There is no way her situation can be equated with Roy Moore.

[Dawson Leery]

12. She and Wiley are a pair of vile liars.

[loyalsister]

13. I now find it a bit embarrassing

I totally fell for the "private family matter" claim. Never in a million years would any of us accept that from Moore or Trump. Monica Lewinsky was victimized when she was subject to an invasive FBI investigation and public humiliation while most of us lined up to support Clinton.

[standingtall]

14. Geez

Which one of the Trump or Moore's alleged victims claim their incidents were with their consent? Monica never denied the sex was consensual so she is not a victim. She was an adult a young adult who had consensual sex with a man she knew was married. She has some responsibility in this she could've said no and maybe she wouldn't have been subject to the public humiliation brought on by the FBI investigation. Comparing her situation to Trump or Moore is straw man.

The Juanita Broderick thing is beyond disgusting. She had her due process in the court system something neither Trump or Moore's alleged victims have ever been afforded. Twice under oath Juanita Broderick denied her charges against Clinton. Claiming someone must be guilty of something they were accused of must be true simply because you say so facts be damned is nothing short of Trump level authoritarianism especially after it has litigated.

[Dorian Gray]

15. Monica consented

but the power dynamics were not equal, and we've been horrified that many men in Hollywood have expected sexual favors from young interns or actresses looking for roles. It's problematic behavior from a politician. Absolutely.

And she WAS victimized after the incident. The Press and Clinton loyalists destroyed her.

She is a super strong woman to come through all that without succumbing to depression or anything else.



We need to expect better of our politicians Absolutely. 100 percent.


And I don't think it's a problem taking stock and recognizing that.

Roy Moore going after teenagers is worse. Absolutely. I want him out of there. Donald Trump has admitted (and it's on videotape) that he grabs women and walks into teenagers undressing at his Ms. Universe competitions. He should be out of there, too.

But that doesn't mean I can't look back at the 90s and feel appalled that the man I voted for an supported was kind of a dick. And I turned a blind eye to it. Bc why? I liked him.........

[standingtall]

17. No one disputes Clinton committed adultrey

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You presume that Clinton used his position to coerce Lewinsky into giving him sexual favors when there is no evidence of that. From all we know Lewinsky was not coerced, but in fact initiated it. She was not victimized by Clinton loyalist or the press I don't remember anything that was untruthful said of her. If she was victimized by anyone it was by republicans who appointed a special prosecutor in Ken Starr to find something anything to impeach Clinton with. Ken Starr wasn't even originally looking for allegations of adultery he just stumble upon it. Nothing else he was investigating Clinton for panned out. The republican speaker of the house was committed adultery himself at the same time he was impeaching the President for adultery.

[stevenleser]

23. Monica consented? Monica was the pursuer. Clinton consented to her pursuit.

Sorry but as an adult if she was the pursuer, the power dynamics do not come into play.

[loyalsister]

18. At which point did any of them consent to being demonized?

As with Lewinsky, they all have people lining up to smear them in order to support a powerful predator. "She shoukld have said no" is the classic slut shaming line.

[standingtall]

19. Lewinsky was not a victim neither was she demonized

who said anything about her that was untrue? Pointing out that she was an adult who had consensual sex and could've said no is not slut shaming. It's called the truth. By the way Bill Clinton could've said no too, but maybe you think that is slut shaming too?

[loyalsister]

20. In the end, WE are the ones who should have said no

rather than protect a sexual predator who had a long history of it. We should have said 20 yrs ago that it is unacceptable to have a president who uses his power to control a woman's life when they carry on an affair, and especially when he gets caught. We didn't. We defended him and many still are defending not only the action but defending a very public shaming. Unflattering pictures were published, she became a late night TV joke, and people blamed only her, letting him off the hook. "But, but she flashed her thong." as if there was nothing the poor innocent man (boys will be boys, right) might have done to initiate the entire affair.
We said it was okay for a sexual predator maintain and acquire positions of authority. It was standard operating procedure then and long before. THIS me too conversation should have taken place then. BEFORE more men with such histories were elevated to more powerful positions.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. That's messed up. She's saying she was a real victim and Trump's victims are fake.

[PdxSean]

4. Doomed to repeat the past.

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/feb/26/local/me-11829

Surely a sane society can support and protect accusers/victims without denying the accused a voice/defense.

[NCTraveler]

6. You cant control Handler!!! You cant even try to contain her!!!

Ohhh Handler....

[tblue37]

9. No one can handle Handler? nt

[octoberlib]

16. Rumor is Broaddrick was paid by Chuck Johnson of

Gateway Pundit. He’s been banned from Twitter.

[BannonsLiver]

21. Handler can take her both sides argument and tell her story walking.

I have always assumed she was liberal. Perhaps that was a mistake. But if she is, this is the kind of shit that gets us slaughtered in fights like these. Never be cowed by Republicans. A lesson some here could stand to learn. Broaderick has been a crank for decades.

[Skittles]

22. Juanita is a right-wing hack

she has ZERO credibility

shame on Chelesa