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PSA: It is NOT difficult to avoid sexually assaulting women (Original Post) DesertRat Nov 2017 OP
Well thanks, I am not sure how many of us needed to read that. wasupaloopa Nov 2017 #1
You would think, but some people do seem to be confused kcr Nov 2017 #19
Enough that its worth pointing out whopis01 Nov 2017 #28
Ok now let's cover equal ground. moda253 Nov 2017 #2
I imagine many people would equate sexual assault with jokes. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #3
The OP included sexualized comments mythology Nov 2017 #24
No dick jokes?... lame54 Nov 2017 #7
Eliminating fart jokes is where I draw the line. LuckyCharms Nov 2017 #12
I mean...damn that eliminates my favorite self deprecating humor Docreed2003 Nov 2017 #30
Jokes are "equal ground" to sexual misconduct? ehrnst Nov 2017 #9
I normally hear dick jokes from men radical noodle Nov 2017 #10
Same here. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2017 #11
Ditto nt DesertRat Nov 2017 #17
Here's one from your generation... lame54 Nov 2017 #14
Since she isn't/wasn't my grandma radical noodle Nov 2017 #21
Is that a plea for sympathy? lol :) n/m bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #26
No, but it may have something to do with radical noodle Nov 2017 #33
Body shaming anyone is hurtful and inappropriate. BUT... DesertRat Nov 2017 #20
Sexual assault is a joke. Point made. n/t whopis01 Nov 2017 #29
That was in the OP. Iggo Nov 2017 #41
K&R. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2017 #4
Very Easy, Indeed ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #5
I had to laugh at the idea anyone needs "classes" regarding harrassment Skittles Nov 2017 #8
Yep. LuckyCharms Nov 2017 #13
Oh yes, one more thing... LuckyCharms Nov 2017 #15
see, that's the thing Skittles Nov 2017 #16
I agree with you... LuckyCharms Nov 2017 #18
I'm All In ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #25
You Ain't Kidding! ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #36
K&R sheshe2 Nov 2017 #6
K&R brer cat Nov 2017 #22
K&R mcar Nov 2017 #23
Many men would disagree with you whopis01 Nov 2017 #27
Disagree with which part? DesertRat Nov 2017 #31
That it is not difficult to avoid whopis01 Nov 2017 #34
Its a choice that they make DesertRat Nov 2017 #35
Some will. Some wont. whopis01 Nov 2017 #37
I agree with this comment by Soledad O'Brien‏ DesertRat Nov 2017 #38
I agree with it as well. n/t whopis01 Nov 2017 #39
kick Puzzledtraveller Nov 2017 #32
I think this needs to be kicked back up DesertRat Nov 2017 #40

kcr

(15,317 posts)
19. You would think, but some people do seem to be confused
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 02:26 PM
Nov 2017

And have questions about it all. It's just so complicated and confusing!

 

moda253

(615 posts)
2. Ok now let's cover equal ground.
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 01:13 PM
Nov 2017

No dick jokes
No small dick jokes
No limp dick jokes
No beer gut jokes
No weak man jokes
No masculinity jokes.


How about we focus on treating people with respect and stop the demonizing with a broad brush? That might be a better path to respect.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. I imagine many people would equate sexual assault with jokes.
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 01:15 PM
Nov 2017

I imagine many people would equate sexual assault with jokes.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
24. The OP included sexualized comments
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 05:55 PM
Nov 2017

I know sex jokes are in my employee sexual harassment don't category.

LuckyCharms

(17,441 posts)
12. Eliminating fart jokes is where I draw the line.
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 02:13 PM
Nov 2017

I can't carry on a conversation without throwing in a few fart jokes.

Few people realize this, but fart jokes are in the bible.

Pull my finger.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
11. Same here.
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 02:10 PM
Nov 2017

The post made me think about it seriously too. I honestly cannot come up with a dick joke I have heard that didn't come from a man.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
21. Since she isn't/wasn't my grandma
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 03:39 PM
Nov 2017

I can still say I've never heard a woman tell a dick joke. BTW, I think she's WAY older than me. LOL!

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
20. Body shaming anyone is hurtful and inappropriate. BUT...
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 03:18 PM
Nov 2017

as a woman, it's Scary when a man pushes his physical boundaries, you don't know what's going to come next. That "learned fear" that men can physically hurt you is what traumatizes us.

ProfessorGAC

(65,058 posts)
5. Very Easy, Indeed
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 01:36 PM
Nov 2017

Millions and millions and millions of men manage to get through every day without doing these things. And then there is the scumbucket brigade.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
8. I had to laugh at the idea anyone needs "classes" regarding harrassment
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 01:42 PM
Nov 2017

perhaps the perverts can be coached by the majority of men who have no problem....or better yet, just get rid of the perverts

LuckyCharms

(17,441 posts)
13. Yep.
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 02:15 PM
Nov 2017

Not touching people or acting innappropriately in a sexual manner should come natural to adults.

LuckyCharms

(17,441 posts)
15. Oh yes, one more thing...
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 02:17 PM
Nov 2017

Where I used to work, we had to take "diversity training" classes. Basically, these were classes that "taught" you how to not be a prick to people who are different than you. Unbelievable that adults have to be taught this.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
16. see, that's the thing
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 02:19 PM
Nov 2017

I don't think they do

people who have a problem working with others, for example women and anyone who isn't the same color as them - get the fuck rid of them - that will teach them how to behave better than any "classes" will

LuckyCharms

(17,441 posts)
18. I agree with you...
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 02:25 PM
Nov 2017

This was back in the 90's at a huge company. There were over 200 people in my department alone.

One of our co-workers was a gay guy. He happened to be my neighbor. He was a good guy, and I had him and his partner over to the house for drinks a few times. We were friends.

Well, he was bullied at work without mercy. By a relatively large group of men. Rude comments, harassment, that sort of thing. I used to stand up for him, but what the hell is one person going to do? Those incidents were the catalysts for this diversity training.

I sure hope that things in the workplace are better now. The 90's seem like yesterday, but things were really a lot different then.

ProfessorGAC

(65,058 posts)
36. You Ain't Kidding!
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 09:42 AM
Nov 2017

And, it's not just the majority of men. It's the vast preponderance. We don't even half to work full time on it. About twice a year per good guy and the "classes" are addressed.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
34. That it is not difficult to avoid
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 12:23 AM
Nov 2017

Based on the fact that so many me do not manage to avoid it. It seems like many have a great difficulty avoiding it.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
35. Its a choice that they make
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 09:08 AM
Nov 2017

and now that many women are finally speaking out, maybe they’ll think twice before sexually harassing.

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