General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShould Al Franken Resign if Trump doesn't and Roy Moore is elected?
Let Session, Hannity, Stone, and Trump win? HELL NO!
I am SO tried of Democrats playing by rules and being expected to do what's right when the Republicans are never held accountable for the same things!
Matthew28
(1,798 posts)Stay and fight like hell against the goddamn savage republicans.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Voltaire2
(13,048 posts)It doesnt matter what those other assholes do.
Break time
(195 posts)Fuck em all, he should not even consider resigning. In the first place these are all "he said/she said" and until there is an investigation he is just fine staying and continuing to fight for us...
AND the things he is accused of, notice the "accused" part, don't even belong in the same paragraph or page or forum as the things drump and dippy shit from alabama have been accused of...
They are making a run at the most effective Dems we have going, I am waiting for the man that comes out with accusations against Warren that she harassed him..
pangaia
(24,324 posts)What has fucking moron done and all those other slimy shitpisser republicans?
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Otherwise, (assuming you don't live here) your opinion is not worth much.
Minnesota will decide on Franken, people in other states can't vote one way or the other.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)And they get it because all of us have a stake in D/winnable Senate seats. Stop telling non-Minnesotans they don't matter in this discussion. It's not only provincial, it's wrong.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Sorry if that fact bothers you. You are welcome to your opinion, but it clearly doesn't matter towards electing a Minnesota politician.
Provincial? Do you understand how State elections work? Or are you advocating for voter fraud?
I think Roy Moore is a slimey asshole, but I can't vote against him. My opinion doesn't mean anything towards his chance of being Senator. If one doesn't live in Minnesota, your opinion doesn't matter towards Franken being a Minnesota Senator.
If you choose, go ahead and send money to the GOP to campaign against Franken in 2020. Your opportunity to do that in 2014 has long expired.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Indisputable fact: Only Minnesotans can vote for Minnesota Senators.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)There's a nice, colorful table on page 5 that tells you how much impact out-of-state money has on Senate battleground races.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)Response to VermontKevin (Reply #46)
Post removed
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Under normal circumstances, maybe yes. But our politics have become so coarsened that there is no point. There is nothing to be gained and a lot to lose.
Vogon_Glory
(9,118 posts)Id like more indisputable proof that Al was following in the footsteps of Bush 41 and his wandering hands before we condemn him in a public auto-da-Fe.
The last election cycle taught me to never trust anyone/anything anymore.
Investigate - then decide.
badhair77
(4,218 posts)I want an ethics investigation.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)and if Al Franken is a serial ass grabber Im not seeing how hes our best option.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)are the accusers ready to testify under oath for the senate committee?
This is an obvious deflection attempt to elect moore. If it is effective meaning Franken would resign, wait until right wing goes after every democratic senator one by one.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Snackshack
(2,541 posts)Reason Sen. Franken should resign.
Unfortunately I agree 100% with your post.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Also Wesley Goodman, Arlan Stangeland, Donald Lukens, Robert Packwood, Bob Barr, Newt Gingrich, Ed Schrock, Don Sherwood, Mark Foley, Bob Livingston, Larry Craig, John Ensign, Chip Pickering, Mark Souder, Chris Lee, Vance McAllister, and Tim Murphy, all Republicans who either resigned or didn't run for reelection after sex scandals.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)You've got republicans sending dick pics and molesting little girls and they are not going anywhere.
I don't care if Franken grabs MY ass as long as he keeps fighting for us instead of trying to destroy us like the reps are doing.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)should stay put. I am sick of this double-standard bullshit.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,117 posts)Initech
(100,079 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)I don't trust the Dem leadership when it comes to these things.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Republicans just don't care. Trump is elected, Moore is about to be elected.
But democrats should be resigning without even an investigation if they are accused of something.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)I am more worried about that our own leadership overreacting.
Initech
(100,079 posts)This is anything but moral!
walkingman
(7,621 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Franken rises nowhere near to theirs. I think a direct apology and admitting wrong doing was sufficient. I think the ethics investigation was too much.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Even consider it until the Moore/Jones election. If Moore wins there is no way he should resign
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)Republicans are going to seat a god damn pedophile, a sexual assaulting him it is sitting in the oval destroying our country from the inside out.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I wouldn't care if he grabbed my ass at this point.
If for no other reason than the nation is under attack and he is a marksman on the first line of defense.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)It shouldn't be a partisan issue but unfortunately that is politics in America.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)When I see a thread title like this, I have to wonder why are people on a Democratic message board so anxious to lump Franken with Trump and Moore? Because that is what the title does, whether the author meant it to do this or not.
Effect counts just as much as intention.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)There's no proof against Franken vs the p grabbing tape and the yearbook etc etc against Moore.
Please be careful with your wording right now
egduj
(805 posts)Hell NO
BootinUp
(47,157 posts)When the going gets tough I buckle.
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)MFM008
(19,814 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)NO and also HELL NO!!