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brooklynite

(94,581 posts)
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 04:29 PM Nov 2017

Charles Manson's grandson seeks 'another way' to bury cult leader after GoFundMe shuts down campaign

New York Daily News:

Charles Manson's grandson isn't giving up his plan to claim and bury the mass murderer, even after GoFundMe pulled the plug on his fundraising website Thursday.

"If we can't raise money with GoFundMe, we'll find another way. It will definitely be a group effort. It's not just one person, it's a lot of people holding hands," Jason Freeman told the Daily News.

Freeman, 41, said he was on a Thanksgiving walk in some Ohio woods when he learned the crowd-sourcing page set up by his friend John Jones had been deactivated.

The fundraiser reached $979 before GoFundMe shut it down and was meant to cover the legal, travel and burial fees associated with claiming Manson's remains in California.


If burial is that important, I'm thinking: stop at Home Depot for a shovel and then drive out to the desert.
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Charles Manson's grandson seeks 'another way' to bury cult leader after GoFundMe shuts down campaign (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2017 OP
How sad... Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #1
Yeah I can't imagine there's a cemetery in this country... Initech Nov 2017 #6
I agree steve2470 Nov 2017 #13
I'm mixed. He deserves nothing, but family should be able to bury their kin. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #2
Geez, Manson was 83 TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #3
He was likely hoping for a GoFundMe windfall... EL34x4 Nov 2017 #22
Manson had a child? wryter2000 Nov 2017 #4
The other day I heard there were NO known relatives then this (apparently there were three children) Brother Buzz Nov 2017 #7
He has tons of cousins (some as close as first) still living in Ashland, KY. Adenoid_Hynkel Nov 2017 #10
Neither Did I Leith Nov 2017 #8
It's still America. Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #5
Screw that egomaniacal killer. Stick his carcass in the sewer Lint Head Nov 2017 #9
He should just cremate him Horse with no Name Nov 2017 #11
True, that could cost a lot too maybe treestar Nov 2017 #23
Not to mention public health hazard. I wouldn't exect lines like for Dick Chenney's grave, Thor_MN Nov 2017 #24
dump him out in the desert like Raine Nov 2017 #12
Perhaps it is too much to expect a level of civilization. dembotoz Nov 2017 #14
+1. n/t LuckyCharms Nov 2017 #15
A +1 from me too sammythecat Nov 2017 #16
Agreed Egnever Nov 2017 #17
Yea.. it is too much nini Nov 2017 #19
Happy Thanksgiving to u 2 dembotoz Nov 2017 #21
Funerals are expensive. moriah Nov 2017 #18
Freeman's father (Charles Jr, later known as Jay White) committed suicide twenty-some years ago, struggle4progress Nov 2017 #20

Initech

(100,079 posts)
6. Yeah I can't imagine there's a cemetery in this country...
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 05:17 PM
Nov 2017

That would want the negative publicity that comes with having that monster buried there.

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
2. I'm mixed. He deserves nothing, but family should be able to bury their kin.
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 04:46 PM
Nov 2017

He should be cremated and ashes moved to a non public location.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
3. Geez, Manson was 83
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 04:54 PM
Nov 2017

If a burial and funeral were so important to the grandson he should have started saving years ago, not expect the general public to open their wallets.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
22. He was likely hoping for a GoFundMe windfall...
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 10:20 AM
Nov 2017

...from the crowd who thought Manson T-Shirts were cool and the legions of others who made Charles Manson the most corresponded with prisoner in the United States.

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
7. The other day I heard there were NO known relatives then this (apparently there were three children)
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 05:18 PM
Nov 2017

Freeman is the son of Charles Manson Jr., who was one of three children born to Manson and his first wife, Rosalie.

Manson Jr. changed his name to Jay White to distance himself from his father. He committed suicide in 1993, in his late 30s.

Freeman said he used to blame his grandfather for his father’s suicide, but was able to forgive him after speaking on the telephone with him about eight years ago.

http://www.newsweek.com/charles-mansons-grandson-wants-give-cult-leader-proper-burial-717828

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
10. He has tons of cousins (some as close as first) still living in Ashland, KY.
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 08:00 PM
Nov 2017

I actually know one of them - an elderly lady.

None want to claim him, though.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
11. He should just cremate him
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 08:05 PM
Nov 2017

If the family wishes to memorialize him with disbursing the ashes, then they should do so.
If they just want to move forward, they can throw them away.

There just shouldn't be a memorial to this man by way of gravesite. It will just cause grief.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
23. True, that could cost a lot too maybe
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 10:41 AM
Nov 2017

And scatter his ashes somewhere. That is what Jim Jones' children did with him.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
24. Not to mention public health hazard. I wouldn't exect lines like for Dick Chenney's grave,
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 11:15 AM
Nov 2017

but there are enough people that would want to piss on his grave that the property values downwind would drop.

My dream retirement gig is to own the nearest beer concession upwind of Chenney's grave. Would be able to sell out of date Keystone at premium prices, Blatz as a top shelf upgrade.

dembotoz

(16,806 posts)
14. Perhaps it is too much to expect a level of civilization.
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 08:31 PM
Nov 2017

Perhaps we do not wish to demonstrate that we are different from him

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
16. A +1 from me too
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 10:45 PM
Nov 2017

His relatives don't deserve punishment for Manson's crimes. If they want to ask for help with the costs of burial, no one should stand in their way.

nini

(16,672 posts)
19. Yea.. it is too much
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 11:32 PM
Nov 2017

This guy was a monster beyond words.

The state will give him a burial if no one else does. Let the state put him in the ground and be done with him.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
18. Funerals are expensive.
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 11:28 PM
Nov 2017

I think his grandson should have every right to collect his remains.

And GoFundMe had every right to say "Sorry, we don't want to be associated with this."

I still don't have headstones for my father or grandmother, or the cenotaph for my grandfather, but they are all at least in the ground. And as far as the reason for a cenotaph being needed, we finally determined what alias he died under and where he's buried, but I don't have the cash to move him across several states to the family cemetery. A cenotaph will be sufficient to honor my father's desire to know what happened to his dad (he didn't before he died, I kept on searching in his memory).

struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
20. Freeman's father (Charles Jr, later known as Jay White) committed suicide twenty-some years ago,
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 01:17 AM
Nov 2017

allegedly because he couldn't live with his own father's history. This must not be a pleasant family situation for Freeman

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