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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLawyers for Michael Flynn have cut ties with Pres. Trump's legal team, he's flipped.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/us/politics/flynn-mueller-russia-trump.htmlLawyers for Michael T. Flynn, President Trumps former national security adviser, notified the presidents legal team in recent days that they could no longer discuss the special counsels investigation, according to four people involved in the case, an indication that Mr. Flynn is cooperating with prosecutors or negotiating such a deal.
Mr. Flynns lawyers had been sharing information with Mr. Trumps lawyers about the investigation by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, who is examining whether anyone around Mr. Trump was involved in Russian efforts to undermine Hillary Clintons presidential campaign.
That agreement has been terminated, the four people said. Defense lawyers frequently share information during investigations, but they must stop when doing so would pose a conflict of interest. It is unethical for lawyers to work together when one client is cooperating with prosecutors and another is still under investigation.
The notification alone does not prove that Mr. Flynn is cooperating with Mr. Mueller. Some lawyers withdraw from information-sharing arrangements as soon as they begin negotiating with prosecutors. And such negotiations sometimes fall apart.
Still, the notification led Mr. Trumps lawyers to believe that Mr. Flynn who, along with his son, is seen as having significant criminal exposure has, at the least, begun discussions with Mr. Mueller about cooperating.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)malaise
(269,020 posts)with legal fees. That was a clear signal that he may have flipped.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show
eleny
(46,166 posts)But when Rachel talked about Flynn's military career earnings it became clear why he'd need some help. But when Trump cut off the funds right when Flynn's son is behind the 8 ball I thought, Flynn's going to flip. Flynn has to be angry enough to be dropped like a hot potato after helping get Trump elected a la "lock her up".
I don't really hope that Flynn can make a deal. But if it nails Trump's butt then it would be worth it to watch Flynn wave to the Trump's behind bars.
malaise
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is fine with me
eleny
(46,166 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)The had warrants and surveillance long enough to tie a ribbon around everyone.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)In order to properly follow the Nixon Protocol, we HAVE to get Pence fully pinned to the wall before we can really go after the Hair.
If it happens before 2018 changes any balance of power in the Senate/House we'd still end up with a Republican, but hopefully one better than the immature dotard or the guy who watches Hulu's "The Handmaid's Tale" as inspiration for his Presidency.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)Sadly, we previously could have said such incompetence would render one ineligible for the office, but look at his boss.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)that Pence knew I would not be willing to wager on his not being removed from office.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)If it ends in a few months, the public will have forgotten it largely by the time the midterm elections occur
volstork
(5,401 posts)Its likely to go on and on. Theres a lot of shit to muck out, and hes just the man for the job!
GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)volstork
(5,401 posts)IS fairly Herculean!
mucifer
(23,546 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,599 posts)"This is not the beginning of the end, it is the end of the beginning". My health can't take this.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)risk incarceration over tRump. He is just not worth it. There will be celebrations world wide when he finally gets what he deserves.
volstork
(5,401 posts)because he has no loyalty to anyone else. He would/will turn on his own kids to try to save his skin.
I just wonder if there is any way to expunge this "presidency;" to make it as if it never happened...
shenmue
(38,506 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Go Mueller..........
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)I think reality may finally be winning.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Especially when they brought the Turkey and rendition matter in and also his son into the mix....and not just the huge legal bills piling up with no end in sight and no money covering them....
But the biggest reason I assumed he flipped a long time ago: He is subject to charges not just under the regular civilian law, but under military law and UCMJ.
Death penalty stuff people under military code of justice....I figure Mueller had so much on him that they sat Misha down and basically said "here's what you are facing....never seeing the light of day (even death penalty if the Military court goes after him), broke and in debt (for your family too) and your son also in jail for decades....
Or you work with us and tell us what you know about Trump and Russia and all involved....and you and your family might have some freedom.... at least your son and your wife will not be on the street broke....
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)telling him to stay strong, l assumed it was because he, dotard, knew Flynn could take him and his corrupt family down. Dotard is probably changing his diapers just about now.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)All these ridiculous updates are just that, ridiculous. Mueller isnt leaking shit, so any leaks are more than likely coming from Trumps team. And naturally, everyone here falls all over it, thinking that maybe tomorrow Trumpll be indicted and impeached.
And Mueller isnt investigating Trumps taxes or mob ties, another refrain i hear around here all too often. Muellers only got 20ish people on his team and the vast majority of them are lawyers.
I fear that hes going to take down Manafort and Flynn, and maybe a couple others, and then call it a day. I kinda suspect his real target is Bannon.